Polish stuff vs. American stuff

Fender Stratocastor and Steinway have some China based facilities for their lower end products. Testing the waters?

Well the reason you Poles have the opportunity to travel is because you live in eastern eaurope and you are surrounded by other countries. You traveling to another country is no different than most americans traveling to different states. America is virtually isolated, Poland is not. As for food, I have been to Poland and I gotta tell ya, the food there made me miss america, although I did have some good food there at times. I guess it depends on who cooks the food.

What exactly does Poland produce and export?

Men that smell of cheese?

this is top 10 of what the US of A buys from Poland.

Civilian aircraft engines
Industrial machinery
Electric apparatus & parts
Household items (e.g. furniture, baskets, ever shop at Ikea?)
Glassware, porcelain, chinaware
Measuring, testing and precision control instruments
Alcoholic beverages (excluding wine)
Automotive parts and accessories
Advanced metal manufacturing (excluding steel)

Oh, and Poland has had significant input into Blue-Ray technology, in case you watch movies.

hope this helps


Speaking of physics - I have been wondering about the law of attractions ;)

A hell of a lot of the names on the credits of hollywood movies these days are Polish(and obviously native Poles not Polish American,judging by first names.) So hollywood can say thank you to Polish Film schools.

And no,giving Poland Steven Segal wasnt a fair swap!

:) yes ... building general knowledge...
BTW what is Poland's contribution in Blue-Ray technology?

Yes Mercedes is heading that way too. Nothing shouts prestige like "made in china".

The first Polish blue laser (and the third in the world) was constructed at Unipress by a 30-man team headed by Prof. Sylwester Porowski. On December 12, 2001, using a unique technology, the team of scientists with very high pressures managed to produce crystals of gallium nitride, characterized by fewer defects and higher efficiency than silicon carbide. The achievement is a first step in the Polish program called "Development of Blue Optoelectronics"

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_blue_laser

I agree polsku is better than america 100 percent!!!!!!!!!!!!


America is the worst contry in the world oh your so good well you take up 25 pesent of world natral resorses and your fat and lazy yet theirs contrys in africa who could use those resorses but no

So córwah amęrikyę

Polsku ją lępy

.. ok

and you must be a toothless bigot then.


lol.. that's what i'm sayin'.

Thanks Torq.. that is very good info..


I can understand you are patriotic & I've great respect for you, but be real dude....you just cannot compare Poland with USA ... its an ant vs elephant comparison...

what is that 100% means?

Yes, I do question the American work ethic as a whole.

The development of the atomic weapon catapulted the U.S. into a superpower, but prior to that, no, it was not a superpower by any means, but it was expanding as a nation primarily by immigrants who left their nations for better opportunities. The atomic weapon was developed in America, but it was done by German scientists, a Hungarian and an Italian physicist. Foreigners, like these scientists, who were eventually given citizenship, are the primary drivers of innovation and growth in America. Foreign scientists working on the Manhattan Project led to the end of the war. Putting the warhead onto an American bomber and having an American pilot fly it was the easy part. Bottom line after the war though - military might will rule the world at this point.

Post-WWII? Technology and financial innovation fueled economic growth, and these inventions, like the atomic weapon, weren't solely developed by Americans but America was able to harvest it and capitalize on it. An example is a simple credit card which wasn't around decades ago. It's not money, but as soon as I turn 18, I got bombarded with offers so I can charge away and pump up the GDP. My personal net worth is in the red, but I keep making purchases that fuel the economy. Toss in the multiplier effect and you have exponential economic growth from a simple credit card. Can't afford it? Heck, then lease it! Zero interest loans are cool too. These are all extremely simple forms of innovation that fueled growth in the U.S. - imagine what the complex ones were capable of doing. What if...Americans actually saved money? What if...U.S. society was more regulated like other nations, where access to credit and innovative products weren't easy for everyone to get their hands on them? What if...everyone in the U.S. wasn't allowed to leverage everything in their lives? Where would this economic growth be? They can't find the bottom of this economic mess we are in simply because it's a product of financial innovation that 99% of people don't understand, but hey, it's the Republicans fault right?


I cook regularly, and I know many others that do as well. I know many who also grow a lot of their own vegetables and fruits, including my family.


You'd be surprised, but your average American, no way. They want convenience. They don't like going out of their way.

Bread is bought at the bakery, meat is bought from the butcher, etc. I don't go to Dominicks/Jewel/Piggly/Albertson, etc. to buy everything. I look for quality over convenience, and do expend extra time for it because it's worth it.


Have you walked the development lab at Phizer? At Google? On Wall Street? Gates can't find enough technically skilled Americans so he asks the gov't to grant a greater number of visas so he can employ competent people from abroad. Sure, many of the world's companies have their Articles of Incorporation in the U.S., but who are the brains driving all the neat stuff you buy? It's ignorant to make a claim that 'oh, American firm - Ya! We produced that stuff' when the majority of the brains behind it are foreign born.

Also, the trade deficit has been in the red since the 1960s, so imports dominate.


Many other nations have a good infrastructure and alternative energy sources in place, but now Obama proposes it and the crowds think he is a genius. High speed train system? Wow, many countries already have that. Get away from a dependency on fuel? Way behind the rest of the world.

My point is this. America is a great country, and I am an American citizen myself, but America was founded by explorers who did not want to go back home for certain reasons. People forget that when new immigrants can be spotted on the street nowadays. So the initial settlers discovered the land, royally screwed over the natural inhabitants (Indians), and began developing the nation with droves of new immigrants coming every year. WWII sent us to the forefront in the world, because if you mess with us know we'll create a mushroom cloud over your head.

So now there are many Americans who are X generations removed from their heritage that (1) don't like immigrants, (2) don't want immigrants and (3) think there nation is the best. Those are the ones that I have an issue with and who I question.

It's not that I don't like immigrants. My grandfather's an immigrant and my father joined the military and did his part "for America". My family has contributed to the welfare of this country.

What I don't want in America are these people who pretend to be nice and they come over here and are better behaved than most of the people who live here and you think they are great and suddenly their Al Queada cell becomes active and they aren't so nice. Those people can STAY OUT for all I care.

The ones who want to contribute and aren't going to attempt to destabilize our country are more than welcome.

It's not that we don't like immigrants - We can not afford immigrants at this time. Get it? It's always been like this since the 1700's. It's not endless money trees here; the economy has to be managed.


The majority of the people working in American firms are not American? You're completely wrong and clueless. Yes, talent is exported in on occasion. Otherwise jobs might not meet their deadlines. This also creates tax revenue. Did others come up with Disney and Coca-Cola, Windows, Youtube, Google.. most of the times those are Americans. How about rockn'roll? Did some Indian or Pakistani do that? Blah blah blah with you, "American's are stupid pieces of sh/t." What a joke you are. Same old stupid refrain. Fukc you. You hate us so much drive to the nearest airport.

Hey guys. I have just been watching this thread expload. I have personal experience of crappy life and hard times here in the US. I live a more rural area of NJ and when our economy was very very very bad, my mother lost her job. My parents are divorced for a long time and my dad is no help for anything. My Mom had no job for almost a year. It was hard and a big change from how it was. Hard knowing you might not have a home. And many un-americans think we have it all. Which is understandable to some point, but it comes to a stand still when you see how bad some families and even communities have it. Not everything is handed to us on a silver platter. Our government, is terrible. All the officials have it made and they are and will be set for life. But they could not survive a real life. Now, since my mom has gotten a job finally, she has been working so hard. Me being only 13, i cannot get a job but i wish i could to help. This is just my story. I am not the only one is my area who has suffered. In our area, we considered it a depression, whether it was or not.

Back in the 1980s the local churchs in Chicago used to have kickboxing matches.
All you would see was red and white in the stands,