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How can I help my Polish friend become a US Citizen


NotPolish  
2 Oct 2007 /  #1
My friend & her husband (50 yrs & 53 years) live in US. They came here legally, but their visa ran out a while ago and are, ugh, illegal now. Their entire family is still in Poland. Their children can visit with student visas.

They are WONDERFUL people whom I love and respect. They have been held up in legalities to become citizens. Is there a way that me, my husband, my brother-in-law and his wife, my aunt and uncle, my mother-in-law, my sister-in-law's family can help them? You have to understand ALL of us love her and her husband and are more than willing to help them.
Kaczor Duck 2 | 95  
2 Oct 2007 /  #2
Well you hae a major problem, and i am sorry about it. Ever since 9/11 all the Govt agencies are talking together. And if they have stayed here illegally, they would morfe than likely be deported at soon as they applied and were confirmed to be here illegally.

When they go back to Poland, they will be penalized and will not be able to obtain a new visa for 10 years. I know this because I have some friends in the same possition.

The best thing they can do is go to an immigration Lawyer and hop ehe can help them.
Being on a vistors visa they are not allowed to work, and they will have a hard time showing how they supported themsleves while illegal. With an I-94 card they could have extended their visa, and could have been here legally for 6 mos at a time. I think they caould have doe that 2 times before having to go back. But I unffort. think they might as well stay put and let the kids come and get green cards. They are i am surely very nice people, but is the way it is today. Contact j.ashbaugh@tulsalaw.com and run it by her.
chase5 2 | 17  
2 Oct 2007 /  #3
They have been held up in legalities to become citizens

So you have tried contacting a lawyer? there are around 200 different types of visa's in the u.s., for various purposes
polishgirltx  
2 Oct 2007 /  #4
contact a lawyer!
chase5 2 | 17  
2 Oct 2007 /  #5
try this link visapro.com it has quite a lot of info about visas greencards and citizenship
Zgubiony 15 | 1,554  
2 Oct 2007 /  #6
Maybe a lawyer, but honestly...it sounds like they burned their bridges. I hope they have money.
randompal 7 | 306  
2 Oct 2007 /  #7
How can I help my Polish friend become a US Citizen

help them by telling them to think twice. the dollar will soon be worth less than the Mexican Peso..
FISZ 24 | 2,116  
2 Oct 2007 /  #8
the dollar will soon be worth less than the Mexican Peso.

Now that's retarded....

....and they need lot's of dollars to get out of the situation they're in.
randompal 7 | 306  
2 Oct 2007 /  #9
well then they better start saving their pesos, because the US dollar is already weaker than the Canadian dollar, unless something has changed since yesterday..
wildrover 98 | 4,451  
4 Oct 2007 /  #10
How can I help my Polish friend become a US Citizen

Feed him tons of hamburgers till he is very fat , take out half of his brain , and give him a gun......Sorry i couldn,t resist it...sorry to all my friends in USA...
AmirahJanowitz  
5 Oct 2007 /  #11
how funny wildrover and you say to me how I should talk.real funny.
plk123 8 | 4,150  
5 Oct 2007 /  #12
Now that's retarded....

maybe retaded but looking like the reality soon enough.
AmirahJanowitz  
6 Oct 2007 /  #13
some advice get a good immagration lawyer. there are a lot of them. if they do not have the money look for a free public defender lawyer to help them. or can they claim assylum here. good luck with everthing.
plk123 8 | 4,150  
6 Oct 2007 /  #14
or can they claim assylum here

assylum from what?
AmirahJanowitz  
6 Oct 2007 /  #15
I am not sure PLK just I heard of people claiming assylum to stay here.
I am only trying to help with ideas to help these people.
plk123 8 | 4,150  
6 Oct 2007 /  #16
i don't think you can get an assylum from poland now.. there is no reason.. partially why visas for poles are hard to get... USA doesn't see a reason why poles have to come here.. they can go to other EU countries or stay at home.. things are better there.
AmirahJanowitz  
6 Oct 2007 /  #17
I think that it is stupid that Polish people have to have a visa to come here or even to visit. Poland is not communist anymore and not a dangerous country. Bush should life the visa Policy.
plk123 8 | 4,150  
6 Oct 2007 /  #18
i don't agree but that's the beautiful thing about america.. we can disagree and still live together.
AmirahJanowitz  
6 Oct 2007 /  #19
PLK I am not saying anything bad about Poland.
I want to go there to visit it looks like a very beautiful place. and the polish language is beautiful I am learning it. people in my opinion should have freedom to live werever they want.

plk you from Poland. yes that is good about USA eberyone has a right to their own beliefs.
plk123 8 | 4,150  
6 Oct 2007 /  #20
people in my opinion should have freedom to live werever they want.

that's what the natives in america thought too.. the Brits thougth them otherwise.. i am from PL but i reside in the US now. love it. seems the folks in question do as well. :)
AmirahJanowitz  
6 Oct 2007 /  #21
good for you I am glad you like it here.
yes plk the real americans think about it are the native indians that live here.
we are all europeans by birth or decent.
you sound like a smart person to talk to could we chat sometime. thanks.

hi not polish any luck with helping your friends out. lets us know
Hussar - | 9  
4 Nov 2007 /  #22
they can go to Mexico and break in illegally, than they'll be given more rights than American citizens, it's a great deal.......... very logical.

On the serious side.....lawyers, lawyers, lawyers......... it'll cost but much more likely to work.
krysia 23 | 3,057  
4 Nov 2007 /  #23
Or they will have to divorce and marry a US citizen then after 2 years divorce and re-marry each other again. It's been done. And it was with the help of an immigration lawyer.
sledz 23 | 2,250  
4 Nov 2007 /  #24
they will be penalized and will not be able to obtain a new visa for 10 years. I know this because I have some friends in the same possition

Its true, I know somebody that it happened to.
Hussar - | 9  
4 Nov 2007 /  #25
plk123 sorry man just had to steal your hussar hope u don't mind.

In a Utopian world that would be true and ppl could live where there wished however we don't live in that world and have to deal with there reality and insanity of rules and politics. it took my family 13 years of trying to get the hell our of Poland and from under the boot of communism. in the end i didn't have a father for 3 of those years but finally perseverance worked and we're in the US now. Living the dream as some would say, it's only too bad that now this nation is about to fall like Rome. Just can't get any damn peace and quiet.
Patrycja19 63 | 2,699  
4 Nov 2007 /  #26
it's only too bad that now this nation is about to fall like Rome. Just can't get any damn peace and quiet.

you know for someone who says they had it so hard in the place they lived, I would
think you would be more appreciative.. yes we are going thru some tough times
right now, but its the people that need to stick together, thats what America is all
about.. you say mean things about American girls, but you only been with a few of them, not the who nation and so you make like those few represent the whole

America.. would you want people to say the same about Poland?

yes, few bad apples in every tree, but that is why they fall off the tree while the
others stay good.

reality and insanity of rules and politics

no u just have to vote for the guy that deals with it.. we have to deal with the
media fed rubbish.. true or false statements , lies exists.. does this affect your normal
daily routine?

it upsets us, but we are only involved in minor contributions.. the big guys handle
it all thats the truth of it..
Hussar - | 9  
4 Nov 2007 /  #27
Sorry this is a bit off topic but this woman is driving me crazy so i have to respond.

Ohh Patrycja you have got to learn to pay attention and not assume so much and if you are going to assume things than make sure to state that and perhaps ask for a correction if you happen to be wrong, other wise u just come off looking like a 40 watt bulb..

Like with your post on my thread i'll take the time to explain things to you and hope for the best.

Please point out where i discuss how hard my life has been or better yet claim that it was hard. As far as i can tell all i presented in my statement was that it was not an quick/easy process to get out of Poland, a communist country @ the time. A commentary on the topic @ hand and something AmirahJanowitz & plk123 were talking about. As things would have it, in fact my life was quite easy and worry free for the most part due to the hard work and love of my parents, but that's neither here nor there.

I would
think you would be more appreciative..

If you would think @ all you wouldn't make such an unsupported claim.
Without getting into too much detail i can safely tell you that i appreciate what this country did for my family and all the other immigrants like us immensely. My American friends are astonished how patriotic and involved i am ( much more so than they are ) in the fight for this nation not even being born here. I fight to keep it moving in the right direction every day. Not being a person holding a political position of power i do my little bits to keep this nation going in the right direction, although more and more now trying to bring it back from the of wrong direction it has been moving in for some time. Disseminating literary, audio and visual information to as many people as i can reach. Contacting my representatives in government on a regular basis in the effort to keep them voting correctly etc. etc. etc.

How much do you do Patrycja ?
My guess is not much, my guess is that you're not even particularly well informed on what is actually happening in this country of ours. I derive that guess from your comment, because if you were informed you would not questioned my appreciation for this nation but understood it what i said about falling like Rome and perhaps commented in agreement with it, despite it's exaggerated level @ least for the time being.

I tell you what i do agree with you on...

yes we are going thru some tough times
right now, but its the people that need to stick together

that is true we do need to stick together but thus far that couldn't be further from the truth could it. Since never in history of this nation other than perhaps the Civil war has this nation been more polarized. All the while our own government takes advantage of our divide over petty things, further plunging this nation into turmoil and eventual collapse, like Rome Patrycja........ providing that people do not wake up and involved.

Do you know what the average life cycle or a republic is.... about 300 years.
Do you know why they usually fall, mainly due to internal corruption and apathy on the part of it's people.

you say mean things about American girls, but you only been with a few of them, not the who nation and so you make like those few represent the whole
America.. would you want people to say the same about Poland?

Ok here we go, r u ready ??

The 1st part is a fabrication of your hyper imagination ( see the reply in my thread )
by the way how do you know how many women i've had the pleasure of being with or knowing ?? There is that prophet syndrome kicking in again.

I think i figured out correctly that you tried to say in the second half of that statement so i'll try to reply to that.

People generalize on things all the time some are generalizations are true and some are not. some examples for you : Polaks are stupid, Jews are good with money, American girls are nuts.

Polaks are stupid: is that true, of course not but ask was it true when it originated and the simple answer is yes like it or not. How is that true u may ask, well during the mass immigration to America between 1899-1930 or so the bulk of the immigrants were uneducated simple people. So to the established populace ( previous immigrants ) that was an easy generalization based on lack of the immigrans formal education. Does that mean that all were stupid or that even the ones that were not highly educated but highly adaptable and street smart were, of course not. However, on a educational level as a generalization it applied and was true. It certainly doen't apply any more.

Jews are good with money: Is every Jew good with money ? Nope
but as a people comparatively to other societies do the Jewish people more often stick as close nit families and pass on their acquired business knowledge from generation to generation yes.......the proof is in the pudding my dear, how else can a people that have been brutalized so much through our history survive and flourish. making the generalization true.

American girls are nuts: again is every one of them nuts ? nope
Statistically are American girls more prone to be self centered, career oriented, materialistic, not as family oriented, driven, independent, quicker to take the divorce route women that lets say Mexican, Chinese, Japanese, or Polish for that matter. That would be a yes. Simple cultural differences, not even commenting on right and wrong or better and worse just different.

So when it comes to marriage and setting up a family those characteristics make them nuts to me.

Without generalizations there is not truth...... i am not going to take the time to explain this to you, in case you don't understand what i mean.

****Lastly for Christ sake don't take everything so literally, there is such a thing as humor, look into it, it's fun. ****

no u just have to vote for the guy that deals with it..

In a two party system with both parties corrupted with little difference between them do you honestly think voting is the solution ? Can you be this naive ?
Patrycja19 63 | 2,699  
5 Nov 2007 /  #28
Lastly for Christ sake don't take everything so literally, there is such a thing as humor, look into it, it's fun.

you have issues..

I will post just as you have what I want, when I want, how I want.. I didnt make
the comments, you did. now you have a change of heart because you dont want to
look bad?

thats not my problem. as for your comment on me driving you nuts.. heh heh..
it isnt me who drives you nuts, it is lack of ability to deal with people.

I work in the health care field.. daily I take care of people. so your ASSumption of me
was way off buddy.. but thats ok, its expected of someone of your class.. which is none when you can openly say hey,, so i made fun of American girls.. take it lightly..

sorry, but being patriotic doesnt mean bashing women.. thats another thing you did
wrong.. because if you were the upper class you say you are.. even those comments
to me would have been more tactful.. so there for I think MR you are a huge liar
who knows how to manipulate..

good luck on all your endevors.. and have a nice day..
Hussar - | 9  
6 Nov 2007 /  #29
LOL

If you think that what i said equals out to bashing women kind, than you have never experienced or witnessed bashing b4 my dear.

This is a problem with people like you; you exaggerate words or acts to the point that the real thing loses all meaning. Like calling a night of drunken sex followed by regret rape or playing loud music to get information out of a prisoner torture. Both of which are some of the most atrocious depraved acts human kind is capable of but are diluted by claims such as the above that pale in comparison. Now, you may not agree with either of those examples but calling what I said women bashing is an example of just that, merely less important in the scope of things. It is people like you that through your lack of perspective and hypersensitivity disrupt societal conversation and in the end impede freedom of speech. But that’s a big picture of which you’re likely not aware of, nor understand and yes perhaps incorrectly, I am assuming here ;)

I'm not manipulating, you just can't seem to pay enough attention to understand what someone is trying to explain to you.

Lets break this down:

I make a comment
You don’t like my comment and rather question the comment….
YOU attack.
I try to explain what I mean and thus why I said it. Granted with an aggravated edge due to YOUR lack of tact.
YOU disregard said logical explanation and continue to claim false charges.
In fact escalating to calling me a liar ( with out proof of said claim ) and having the audacity to demand TACT on my part regardless having none of your own to begin with.

Sound about right so far or am I manipulating again ??

You don't seem to care about what any one says if it doesn't fit you twisted, ultra sensitive point of view after you already made up your mind with out facts.

Here is an example of manipulation for you own purposes

you say mean things about American girls

i didn't say mean things, i said a mean thing
and that’s only your opinion or imagination at best.
to which i do not subscribe.
It wasn't about American girls in general but American girls I'VE met.
but hey why pay attention to details, it's easier to just conclude and accuse RIGHT ?

I work in the health care field.. daily I take care of people. so your ASSumption of me
was way off buddy.. but thats ok, its expected of someone of your class..

What the hell does that have to do with anything ? What where my assumptions of you Patrycja ? Let me help you here once again. My assumptions had to do with the level of your involvement in the political process, NOT what you did for a living....... I keep asking and asking... PAY ATTENTION !!!

sorry, but being patriotic doesnt mean bashing women..

what does that even mean?? YOU are mixing subject that don't have anything to do with one another, you're not making any sense.

because if you were the upper class you say you are..

Another assumption, PLEASE point out where i claim to be any particular class...... oh wait once again you CAN NOT. hmmmm do we see a pattern here ?

so there for I think MR you are a huge liar
who knows how to manipulate..

The easiest way to deflect the short comings of one's argument is to accuse the other side of lying. GIVE ME EXAMPLES OF MY LIES !!!

now you have a change of heart because you don't want to
look bad?

What change of heart ? I stand by everything i've said, it is beyond my ability to make you understand despite being as clear as day. I simply do not have the key to enter into you fantasy land. Do you have magic mushrooms there and/or elf's, perhaps those could be of assistance to you.

it isnt me who drives you nuts, it is lack of ability to deal with people.

hmmm....Nope..... it's not that it's your persistent Ignorance in the face of facts and all efforts made to the contrary. I don’t know you Patrycja, perhaps you’re a lovely woman but if you insist on treating people like this, attacking someone rather than inquiring first you will keep coming across people like me. People willing to fight back and embarrassing you step-by-step, point-by-point, thus if you insist on engaging someone either be a bit more open minded or pay more attention to details. Otherwise that 40 watt light bulb will continue to shine ever so dimly over you head.
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