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Stop the Polish from entering the UK (yet another thread)


osiol  55 | 3921  
7 Oct 2007 /  #91
Now the Polish can go everywhere they want to in your little country

Yes, there are no restrictions.
Polish people have the right to work in the UK (my little country).
Certain other EU countries, including France and Germany did not lift these restrictions, at least at first - I'm not sure about now.
As far as European countries go, the UK seems happiest to base itself on a US model.
It is not quite the same kind of 'land of opportunity' - it can't be, but we are more open than many of our EU neighbours.

Whilst jobs are available in the UK, there are no restrictions on movement, this has become a more obvious destination for Polish people to go to to find work abroad.

Will the US lift visa restrictions? In some ways, the large established Polish communities there, if travel was easier, could be more of an attraction than it currently is.

A bunch of whiney British complaining

There are too many of these. I don't whine - I state my case calmly and sensibly.

Lets change the name to England Forums.com

I'd be the first to leave.
Firestorm  6 | 399  
7 Oct 2007 /  #92
Quoting: sledz
Lets change the name to England Forums.com

I'd be the first to leave.

I'd be second.

I dont know why you guys even bother answering these stupid posts.
Just ignore the small minded idiots.
And they will slither back under the rock they came from.
osiol  55 | 3921  
7 Oct 2007 /  #93
Good point.
I would ignore them.
But would decent-minded people ignoring the scum leave a skewed view of how the British think of the Polish?
Firestorm  6 | 399  
7 Oct 2007 /  #94
No.
But i dont see the sense in trying to argue with idiots..
They just drag you down to their level. And then beat you with experience.
sledz  23 | 2247  
7 Oct 2007 /  #95
yeah the British scumbags are to stupid go start your own forum

people are getting tired of your constant complaing

talk about idiots..lol

well british losers I have better things to do today than hang out with you

obviously you dont?

I hope a Pole takes a job away from you
osiol  55 | 3921  
7 Oct 2007 /  #96
well british losers I have better things to do today than hang out with you

I'd hardly call it 'hanging out'

I hope a Pole takes a job from you

Or give some Poles jobs, help one out by providing accomodation, then visit Poland?
You don't see very far, do you?
BubbaWoo  33 | 3502  
7 Oct 2007 /  #97
fart.


  • tootin.jpg
sledz  23 | 2247  
7 Oct 2007 /  #98
You don't see very far, do you?

alot farther than you do.... now go play with your one word game

then visit Poland?

I`ll be there in December...BaƂwan
Kaczor Duck  2 | 95  
7 Oct 2007 /  #99
I dont know why you guys even bother answering these stupid posts.
Just ignore the small minded idiots.
And they will slither back under the rock they came from.

Firestorm are you referring to Sledz?

Firestorm
Sledz is actually a very hard working man, with a very big heart. He cares alot about the Polish. If you met him you would like him. He is far from being small minded. And is not an idiot as Firestorm has said, without mentioning his name.

Boy you are prety high on yourself, its easy to insult someone from across the ocean. I bet you wouldn't do it to his face. I feel sorry for you to have to resort to name calling. Is a shame, it really shows how little you really are. Why would you even waste your breath, if he crawled out from under a rock , I dare to guess where you crawled out from.

If you dont like this forum go ahead and leave it. We wont miss you.

fart.

Bubba Woo (nice pic) you comin to America again??
BubbaWoo  33 | 3502  
7 Oct 2007 /  #100
yup - hopin for a chi meet up with all y'all november time
Firestorm  6 | 399  
7 Oct 2007 /  #101
And is not an idiot as Firestorm has said,

This is another reason i dont post as much here.

I was actually referring to eddien. And all the other small minded toads.
Who feel they have an inailiable right to speak for every member of the british isles
when they spout of the crap that Festers in their twisted lil minds.

They Dont speak for me. And never will.
Grzegorz_  51 | 6138  
7 Oct 2007 /  #102
Screw British.

Except LIR, Daisy, Firestorm, Szarl, PD, donkey and a few others.
sledz  23 | 2247  
7 Oct 2007 /  #103
yup - hopin for a chi meet up with all y'all november time

kewl dude, I`ll take you guys to some Polska bars Chicago style

Kaczor Duck

thanks for the kind words bro!

I dont take these comments seriously though, it really doesnt bother me:)

let me know next time your back in town, well meet up at the pier for a piwo
Firestorm  6 | 399  
7 Oct 2007 /  #104
Boy you are prety high on yourself, its easy to insult someone from across the ocean. I bet you wouldn't do it to his face. I feel sorry for you to have to resort to name calling. Is a shame, it really shows how little you really are. Why would you even waste your breath, if he crawled out from under a rock ,

When you've quite finished slagging me off..
You dont Know **** about me.
And obviously even less about the point i was making.

Maybe If you had Bothered to read the Conversation. ( Oh wait. Too much trouble i guess )
You would know i was reffering to all the Morons who come and state that ALL Brits hate poles.
sledz  23 | 2247  
7 Oct 2007 /  #105
Screw British.

lol

It is fun getting them riled up:)
BubbaWoo  33 | 3502  
7 Oct 2007 /  #106
with all this bickering going on it is worth remembering that america, like most of europe, is just another british colony and thats all there is to it

kewl dude, I`ll take you guys to some Polska bars Chicago style

looking forward to it :)
Bartolome  2 | 1083  
7 Oct 2007 /  #107
is

WAS. Until (roughly) 1776. Wakey, wakey :) Furthermore I would say that the roles have reversed to some extent , haven't they ?
Eurola  4 | 1898  
7 Oct 2007 /  #108
just another british colony

Oh no! Please don't tell everybody that... they will take our 4 of July Independence Day off away from us!
BubbaWoo  33 | 3502  
7 Oct 2007 /  #109
WAS. Until (roughly) 1776. Wakey, wakey :)

dont believe everything you read :)
beckski  12 | 1609  
7 Oct 2007 /  #110
tell them to come to the US and bring the hot blondies

theres plenty of room here:)

Please bring us all the gorgeous Polish men too!
osiol  55 | 3921  
7 Oct 2007 /  #111
alot farther than you do

Well, demonstrate this then.
I'd like to complain about people complaining about people complaining about people complaining...

I`ll be there in December

I hope you have a nice time. I'll be in Lomza.

I might ignore these arguing about Poles in the UK threads, I might not.
Same with you, Sledz. I might ignore you, but then again...

It is fun getting them riled up:)

Said the man who seems to be just a tad riled.
Nigel  1 | 71  
7 Oct 2007 /  #112
I don't whine - I state my case calmly and sensibly. [/quote]

Osiol

[I agree, I've read some of your posts with much interest and you make a good case.
I get the feeling though that non poles are only to be tolerated if they agree with the majority on this forum-thats hardly educational.Reading some sensibly stated oppinions which differ to my own helps me examine and sometimes refine my position.There are some on this thread who dont like the english or anyone else and they dont have the same capacity to examine or redifine their oppinions.

Comments like
Screw British,I hope a Pole takes a job away from you
will make the likelyhood of inteligent debate even less.Many people will take offence when they see that written and will respond with much worse.If they would be kind enough to make an intelligent and considered comment instead I would read it with great interest.I 'lose it' sometimes aswell but these people seem to be permanently in that frame of mind.(THAT MUST BE VERY TIRING)
irishguy1  
7 Oct 2007 /  #113
Quoting: irishguy1
we have no longer wanted u british in northern ireland for many years but ur still here

I don't know any English people who want Northern Ireland.
The problem there these days is surely that there are some there who say they are British.
Does having more different people there now, such as the Polish make any differenence to the age old views of the Northern Irish?

well its strange british army were shooting people for no reason little girls at 7.
osiol  55 | 3921  
7 Oct 2007 /  #114
There's no way I can condone or defend such actions. It is despicable.
People do things in our names that can make us sick.
There are, however, bad people on all sides.
Two wrongs, as I often say, do not make a right.
Amongst these islands in the northwest corner of Europe, it does seem as if Northern Ireland has been left behind by the rest of the UK and the Republic of Ireland. So much for all the arguments and the fighting.

What is a British identity to anyone in the province, or indeed, a republican identity, when their fighting leaves them in a weak position economically and socially?

Like many issues in the world, it is too complicated to treat as simple.

Sorry about that aside.
Back to the topic?
Hmmm.
Nigel  1 | 71  
7 Oct 2007 /  #115
Osiol is right.The british people see NI as a pain in the arse that we would be well rid of. None of you can agree on anything for long and you keep dragging up things from the past of which you are only to see from one view point. Get on with your lives and sort yourselves out at last. I've not done anything to you and I dont appreciate your hostility to my countrymen on the grounds of our birthplace.We dont want your country and neither do the south probably.
roofer1  - | 16  
7 Oct 2007 /  #116
in answer to trubrit, trubrit my ar... should be turban the paki and ne.... have been ruining britain ever since they got here and the prisons are 80 per sent full with the other lot sure there are plenty of english drunks as well as polish but they both eng/polish have had there arses torn out by different people trubrit my arse the only thing the people you singing the praises about is a uk passport plenty of of f..k all else they sent more money out of the country than they put in half the phone calls pass thoughg f..king india piiss off i would not like to be stuck in trench with you or your mates give me pol every time drunk or sober a-hole

i n answer to greeasoff or grezegorz boasting about pissing on a drunken englishman drunk on trhe floor have some ball and try it when he,s sober and awake i doubt u got the balls gregg not a good boast prick be glad to meet you pissing terms you would lose

GREGG YOUR AN A..HOLE i think most polish would agree and stop licking the moderaters arses i said you had no balls
Kaczor Duck  2 | 95  
7 Oct 2007 /  #117
I was actually referring to eddien

My apoligies, it was all conglonerated it seemed at sledz, and most of the time there is such a variety i really wont go back and read 5 pages, the topics are highjacked at times, so I stopped doing that.

But anyway, still think the brits are a bit uppity abou themselves. my personal opinion after knowing a few of them for years.

Most Polish I have met have opened thier doors and made me feel at home, with feasts made for a king. They are very hospitable, as I am. Is from my family roots. And i can say it wasnt english.
tornado2007  11 | 2270  
7 Oct 2007 /  #118
You are ignoring the cost of NOT being a member in trading with the EU.

please tell me exactly what we would miss out on?? a few turnips from Poland, a house or two in Bulgaria and god no's what from Romania??

What would happen if the EU fell apart, say, starting with the UK?

fall apart??? i would be first out of it :) The core nations would trade on anyway as we offer each other fair trade and have something to give and receive in return.

How many agreements would have to be made?

they don't have to be cut in stone or official, just 'friendship' agreements rather than a million page document on the ins and outs. It means we are not restricted or forced into anything therefore being able to make our own choices for the UK.

What would be the cost?

i would rather pay money to those nations who are giving back :)

The whole of the EU, or just certain countries?

just those countries who can offer us something in return so we can trade on a 50-50 basis or a little bit each way :)

Many people would lose out on the trade benefits of selective trade agreements.

trade from which countries, we were trading with most of europe before the EU came into existence anyway, well those that were important enough and central to our needs.

Because the UK is part of the telling other people what to do process.
The British press just doesn't like to mention any of this. It doesn't sell rags.

i wouldn't say your lying here just that we don't need to control the parts of europe that depend on us, whats the point, they cost us money!!!

We train many British citizens to make new lives for themselves all around the world already.

yeah of course we do but we also need to train those ones back in the UK who haven't got the skills to go and work on a worldwide or international scale.
osiol  55 | 3921  
7 Oct 2007 /  #119
please tell me exactly what we would miss out on??

There are huge amonts of trade between us and other EU countries.

My first example will be that in the horticulture industry, the majority of plants are sourced from the Netherlands, Belgium, France, Italy and Spain.

My next example is also close to my heart - food. French, Italian...
I don't want my prosciutto to become more expensive.

Now if you will excuse me, I have some French cheese to go and eat.
I will continue later.

they don't have to be cut in stone or official, just 'friendship' agreements

That is rubbish. Trade between nations is not done by a couple of politicians shaking hands and that's it.
You would simply add huge areas of burocracy to deal with so many different countries.

i would rather pay money to those nations who are giving back

I'm not sure what you mean.
If you mean the cost of trade without any decision making in return being your preference.

just those countries who can offer us something in return so we can trade on a 50-50 basis or a little bit each way

So some industries in the UK lose out because their trading partners are seen as insignificant?

The core nations would trade on anyway as we offer each other fair trade and have something to give and receive in return.

Trade between member states is not restricted as it is with outside countries.

we were trading with most of europe before the EU came into existence anyway

And now it is easier and we have more bargaining power.

we don't need to control the parts of europe that depend on us

... that we depend on?
roofer1  - | 16  
7 Oct 2007 /  #120
kac duck are you saying the britts are not hospitable ouy could be right as its now 75 per cent foriegn a reel englishman will put his hand out and pull anyone up and fill his plate.

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