Stop the Polish from entering the UK (yet another thread)

Yes but it is rubbish. Would a Pole **** on a Brit? No chance!

You are rubbish.

What is the point of this thread?

Sorry, but those who speak the truth are never very popular.

But not always those, who aren't very popular, speak the truth, Mr K.

that is true

We have a prime example roaming around PF, don't we.

If we wanted to kick out all the freeloaders in this country we would have to leave the E.U. We cant so lets just get on with it shall we?? I dont like the fact that we've been sold out by our own country or that our hospitaity is being abused by more than one group of visitors. Again we cant do anything about it so lets just get on with what we have left.They'll leave when there's nothing more to take.Some of the nationalist views here are a bit too strong and dont reflect on your intelligence well. I'm English aswell and I know that not many people I know have views as strong as those i've seen hereGrzegorz seems to be some kind of Polish master race brit hater with no good word for anyone.Thinks he's clever maybe,I just thinks his posts are unneccessarily common.

As for urinating on people,how clever! I wouldn't urinate on you if you were on fire in the street.

Ok, you have gone wrong by saying that, what you should have said is

'all further immigrants (not just Polish, which was one of your mistakes) who are not coming to either be educated or to take a job with a specific skill required, should be turned down for being able to enter the UK.


There is nothing wrong with what you have said here although the number is very vague so i would say 'all those of no use or that are benefiting the UK economy or the British should be deported back to their country of origin.


what you say is true, however you should have said 'The majority of British people are sick of so many immigrants (Not just Eastern Europeans) coming into the United Kingdom.


No matter how many people are entering the country they do not deserved to be racially attacked because they are exercising their write under current law to enter the UK, there is no, i repeat no excuse for these attacks what so ever.


the situation will get worse yes, first politically, if the government are seemed not to be listening to the people there will be unrest. Secondly foreign nationals filling that some British people can't be bothered to do does not solve the problem for OUR country in the long run, the government need to spend money on kicking these people out of their houses and into work. Lastly and most unfortunately, yes, there will be those narrow minded thugs who wish to carry out attacks on whoever they think is a good enough target.


i could not agree more with what you said here, its probably the most sensible part of your post.


i disagree, of course we want people here who are going to help our country as a whole or just economically.

There are three different types of people who object to Immigration on such a large scale, these are:

1. Racists/stupid people, These are either just racist so want any excuse to pull the dagger on what they see as inferior or substandard forms of life. Stupid, they just don't understand about immigration at all and probably have an iq of about 21 and enjoy a good punch up after the football.

2. Misguided/unthoughtful: These people usually have a valid point but just cannot express themselves in the correct manner like the example at the start of the post. Generally they are so passionate that they don't realise what they are saying can be viewed as racist and biggoted. They don't want to be racists they are just very frustrated at the current situation in our country.

3. Educated/Frustrated: these people generally see a problem and want to go about it the right way and express their views, which while making their point will not cause major offense or upset to the immigrant population. (that is, as much as they can)

It is my belief that the third kind are way way out numbered by the first two, therefore instead of the government listening to people such as in the third variety they believe that the British population (those who are apposed to mass-immigration) belong to the first two categories. This third group also tend to get shot down on Public Forums, lol :)


thats not true, of course we can its just the government won't have a referendum on the matter :)


once again, yes there is, the government can have a referendum and then the EU will be voted out so we leave it, therefore leaving us to deal with immigration however we like :)


which is exactly why action needs to be taken down now!!!! we didn't wait around for the Germans to take over we fought against that physical threat, now we have another threat al together and we need to solve the problem and act not hide away. If everything is taken then its too late and the country is then in ruin!!!


totally agree with that statement, your spot on :)


i'm also used to mr Greg, he's a fluffy dog, he can't hurt you just jump around at your heels and snap away, just deal with him and argue true and he has no real answers :)


Good one :)

The best fun will be when British villagers come to us to watch Euro 2012.

yes we've heard all about the 'Polish Hooligans' the worst in Europe, i guess you've got to be proud of something HAY :) The team aren't going to make any headlines so i guess the fans oblige :)

this is so stupid. stop picking on eachother. there is good and bad everywhere god.

i'm sorry mate but there are some constructive points on here too, you just cant ignore those because a few idiots fly the flag of racism or whatever

I would dearly love the E.U adventure to fall on its arse.That is the only way we can get out.The swiss know it which is why they will not sign up. I am not against anyone who comes here with needed skills and adds to our community.My wife is Polish and she is a vital member of her company.She speaks English perfectly and is very qualified.There are many others like her and they are paid what they are worth.You should have no issue with these people as they help enrich your life.Cheap bus/truck drivers,shoddy builders and cut price warehousing operatives do nobody any benefit in the long term and decrease the income for British people in the same jobs.These are often the people who are the most vulnerable to such change. If we want a quality country we should raise the standard not lower it.We should avoid reducing ourselves to spouting racist nationalist nonsense,it will only do our case harm.Leave the nationalism to young greg.

thats exactly the type of people we need here, i totally agree with that part of your statement


how do they enrich my life?? i don't get it. We could fill these jobs with British people who are taking benefits for no reason.


no racist nationalist nonsense here, the best way to help this country is by getting its people to do its work. Therefore the money earned stays within the United Kingdom and therfore saves the millions paid out in benefits that are not even needed :)

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quote=tornado2007] once again, yes there is, the government can have a referendum and then the EU will be voted out so we leave it, therefore leaving us to deal with immigration however we like :) [/quote]

When we came in it was all a big con.My parents were told that the common maket ,as it was then , was merely a trade agreement.What makes you think there is any democracy involved??We wont get a fair chance at rejecting it,they have decided to impose it on us and that's that.All lies and it seems to be futile to try to stop these people.

The soviet Union with a single currency is being replicated with ... ah ha!!

What is the cost of leaving the EU as people such as factions of both major political parties in the UK, along with a few rather unpleasant minor parties?

The cost of trade agreements with our trading partners.
It is expensive for Norway, Switzerland and Iceland.
These three countries also need to make legislation in line with the EU to maintain viable relations.
They have no say in what happens in the EU.
Investment from countries outside of the EU could be lost if the UK was not a member.
There have been more benefits from the movement of workers across borders, not just into the UK.

A fragmented Europe would not be a good future.
The EU is an essential part of Europe working towards integration - it helps to narrow the differences that, for most of Europe's history, have caused disagreements, factionalism and war.

The EU is not perfect. It needs change, but everything takes time.

We don't need to be in the EU you get a lot more taken from us or we give more than we give back, us leaving would even it out a little so we wouldn't actually loose that much.

As for European relations, you don't need to go to bed with other countries to be friends or have solidarity, do you??

we can have an agreement with France if we like, we can have an agreement with Spain if we like or any other country, why do we need the busy bodies in Brussels telling one of the most economically and politically powerful nations in Europe what to do??

[[hr] quote=tornado2007] how do they enrich my life?? i don't get it. We could fill these jobs with British people who are taking benefits for no reason. [/quote]

Enrich your life because they bring with them fresh tallent and new ideas which makes working in those firms much more pleasant.It is inspiring to work with inspirational people and differences can be very interesting culturally.Specialists are rare by definition and we need to grab them and encourage them to stay with us.

There are also lay abouts in our own ranks which we have to deal with. Scrap all the benefits and only help those who are desparate.That's the answer,no politician has the balls though.Give it to the old people and hire decent doctors instead.Put mor coppers on the streets too.

If we value democracy then we must defend the right to invest ones earnings wherever one wishes.It is bad for our economy longterm that the money is not recirculated but we cannot do anything about it without violating our basic principles.The only way to sort it is to invest in training for people to do the jobs we need to fill.Why take a foreigner to drive a forklift if we can train one of ours to do it??These firms dont want these new workers for any other reason than saving money.Too tight to invest in their own!! Anyone who does not invest in his company will go bust.They forget that a company is a group of people-thats all.

yes those who have the skills the country requires (which means the ones we don't have within, not the ones who come to poor our coffee, serve behind our bars, clean our floors and toilets :) )


i've stated many times on this forum i would intake those with specialist skills


i agree and have said the same thing


no problem with that but we don't need all these workers, thats my point :)


i'm thinking long term for this country, that is what all my points are aiming at.


I don't want to train people who are going to leave the country and go back to their own, that is money wasted on our part. Training for those here may be expensive but they will learn how to be an effective tool to the british economy and working world, our own people need this don't you think? anyway its cheaper than paying out millions to the countries of the EU who we get nothing back from :)

Your tribemen killed many people around Europe, so that will be a good change.


Well, unlike your twats, we are leading our group in Euro 2008 eliminations.

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Europe will always invest in the U.k WE've got the money and its all in London.We're also best buddies with uncle Sam.If I have to be run by somebody, put dollars in my pocket not euros. We are not part of Europe,we are an island near Europe.We share much more in common with the yanks and that is where our best interests lie.I cant think of one country in Europe which has interests compatible with Ours.We were stupid to abandon our friends in the commonwealth for people with whom we have nothing in common.All the rest is immaterial-money talks

i'm not proud of any of our football hooligans and wouldn't mind if they got lynched to be honest :)


hahaha, yeah leading the group, then you'll qualify and do exactly what you did in the last world cup, lol :) (NOTHING) maybe even loose to Germany again

agreed,Train british kids first and give them a chance.But let them know that there are no free rides any more and they wont get handouts.It was only 15 years ago that We were regarded as the hardest workers in Europe-that was the system then and it will work again now.Look after your own first is what my old dad always said!

We will see. In a group we got 4 points against Portugal, which kicked out your twats from WC 2006, lol...

haha, lets not go tit for tat now as you know that the England stats will come out on top, i won't even bother going into recent footballing meetings between our two nations :)


mine too :)

OK...

Unfortunately we do (temporarily)because we were too tight to train our own people to do it and now we have a crisis on our hands.

Do Poland still play football???????????????????????????????????????

Obviously

You are ignoring the cost of NOT being a member in trading with the EU.
Then, money is paid to the EU without getting to make any decisions in return.


What would happen if the EU fell apart, say, starting with the UK?


How many agreements would have to be made?
What would be the cost?
The whole of the EU, or just certain countries?
Many people would lose out on the trade benefits of selective trade agreements.


Because the UK is part of the telling other people what to do process.
The British press just doesn't like to mention any of this. It doesn't sell rags.


We train many British citizens to make new lives for themselves all around the world already.


There are many things we cannot trade with the US for practical reasons.
They have no real ties to us and trade as and when it suits them.
The EU can be no match for such trade partnerships.


Seen where the dollar's been going? No.


It's for the same old arguments all over again.