Tak ale! There is a big difference between nazis in WW2 then cultural pride and nationalism. Nationalism is not national socialism. Do not confuse the two! It seems that because of WW2 and the pro-german hitler that white are forbidden to keep there own countries theirs!
Hi Everyone, Let me tell, you the truth...............In the early 1200 BC....there was only 3 civilizations which existed. India was concentrated near River Ganges which has the best fertile soil and regular supply of water. The native were known as Dravidian (dark skinned people) . Later ARYANS were from the europe and they were nomads. They came to India and settle and establish their identity there.
We Indians are a mixture of Dravidians and Aryans (brown coloured). They are still many fair colored people living in india (lot of them are high society , high caste) like Bollywood stars which still look like european.
Hence the story says that We all got a bit of european genes in us. So why this hatred among different countries. When the god has made the similar colour of blood in each of us so why theres a seperation in terms of Indian, europeans, americans, etc.
I just want to tell you that as long you respect a girl and truly love someone, theres no wrong in getting married whether it belongs to your country or some different country.
I am strongly against using a girl for Passport , or citizen. I also got a polish girlfriend and she is a Doctor (completed Phd) and quite intelligent and I also belong to a respected family and have completed my MBA (masters of business Administration).
I never forced her to marry me and i dont want a citizenship of poland country as well. I know i am capable of getting a HSMP in UK leading to permanent citizen after 4 years so why marry someone and stay in that country for 2-3 years doing nothing and just waiting for a citizen or passport.
If you compare Poland and India economy, India ecomomy is quite strong and will take over the combined economy of UK, Germany and France in the next 7-8 years. This could be done better but the problem is with the dirty polictics and inefficient administration government staff.
After my exams, I will be writing a book "How a developing country can be developed in next 5-10 years". We are self sufficient and got all the resources.
ITs internal problem that all the about 80% of the ministers are illitrate because of the never changing constitution wriiten about 60 years back after independence. But I am sure 1 day, people will come to India for work as they will be highly paid than their home country.
We were never destroyed in the world war 2, all our bulidings are still intact and we are a peace loving country. If you destroy us, we are capable of destroying You.....So both loose in this case.
The fact is that , Half of the NASA scientists are indian, Most of the UK ...GP are Indian.
India is a rich country with poor people because the wealth lies in the hands of few people. We dont boycott Foreign goods but instead take over foreign companies.......You would have already got examples of TATA buying CORUS steel. MITTAL buying Arcelor.
The problem (differentiation in thoughts) is : We indians respect virginity (as it says in the religious book, sex after marriage and lot of people will agree to it. This is also in Chritianity, if you think yourself a pure catholic ). We want to life with our family together and think marraige is a life long relationship and it only ends after your death.
In europe, the traditional thinking has vanished. If a girl turns 16, she wants to explore sex and general mentality is that If you are a virgin that means you are not attractive and not beautiful. Only After crossing 25 you realise your mistakes.
Why there is a lot of problem in the west for old people living in oldage homes .......the reason is that you are left alone when you really want your partner to be with you.
Beautiful or youngness stays only for a short time and during this period you will find lots of intersting people(men) but once this youngness leaves you after a few years , you find yourself alone and lost in this world.
So my advice, Dont go for fun and sex as it is only for a short time...........Instead go for a strong relationship and be together till the end of your life.......this is a key to happiness.
We dont celebrate when the couple stays together for lifetime as it is celebrated in the west. Problems is common .......its like high and tow tides ....its a rule of nature so instead of getting separated or divorced , try to resolve the issue by mutual understanding.
I hope i have left my message as what i wanted to say. In short, we are all one and belongs to same origin ...so respect everyone and yes for God sake....dont use a girl for your self benefit (passport or citizen) as you will be never happy in your life as these benefits are only for a short term.
They are still many fair colored people living in india (lot of them are high society , high caste) like Bollywood stars which still look like european.
and i thought michael jackson was white. foolish me.
am strongly against using a girl for Passport , or citizen. I also got a polish girlfriend and she is a Doctor (completed Phd) and quite intelligent and I also belong to a respected family and have completed my MBA (masters of business Administration). I never forced her to marry me and i dont want a citizenship of poland country as well. I know i am capable of getting a HSMP in UK leading to permanent citizen after 4 years so why marry someone and stay in that country for 2-3 years doing nothing and just waiting for a citizen or passport.
Dont think that Asians are marrying Polish to get citizenship of Poland. If we want , we have lot of community in Uk and America who are well settled. In fact, its not a problem for me to get married easily to a UK citizenship (asians) or American citizenship (asians) as I know that if i get married to a Uk citizen or US citizen , it is very easy and fast to get Citizenship of these country and sooner than Poland citizneship. In Uk, it just takes 2 years to get a passport and in US , it just take 1 week to get a Green card adn possibly passport after 2 years. We are not fools to marry a polish girls just for the sake of Passport. In india, the average salary of a MBA graduate is £1000 permonth plus a flat and a car free of cost. I know that the polish salary is not attractive and it is just the same as Indian salaries.
My girlfriend after studing masters and completing Phd in physics and she is a lecturer in university just gets a salary of £200 permonth which is nothing if you see the cost of living in poland and also in india a junior lecturer gets a salary of £250 per month + benefits and the relative cost of living is generally lower than poland.
So forget that we all marry to polish citizens (girls) just to get a poland passport. We indians get free visa to come to poland (no fees) and the decision time of the Polish consulate is just within a week time.
The poland economic is not that strong that all just wanted to marry a polish girl. Yes its true, that eatern european girls (polish) girls are beautiful , caring and traditional . My girlfriend cooks food for me, cleans the house inspite of being a PHD and lecturer and these qualities are similar to an indian woman . This is what i fell for and not the passport. I also help her as i know my responsibility and duties towards her.
She knows that I am not behind her passport as I am not a fool to get settle in Poland leaving UK. Its all about understanding and being together to settle and create a lovely small family and be together.
And Yes, one more thing, The English are not happy and hate immigrants but just let me tell them as well that The UK's economy is just running on Immigrants as they dont take any benefits and contribute substantial amount to the Tax office. Uk government is not doing any favour to us as we pay to them.
As every one knows that each taxpayer assists a UK citizen who is unempoyed. Each of us supports one british national so that he gets the benefits from the government.
Let me also clear that Each indians who comes to UK, have to show a property (fixed) of atleast £20,000 and a liquid cash in bank which should be atleast £15000 and also pays our fees in full (generally £12,000 for year)to get a UK visa so let me clarify that we are not poor as they think.
The UK governement charges us the highest amount of fees to study here and from this excess amount pay for their local students (for their studies) and now also europe. So conclusion is that Each immigrants pays fees which goes for the payment of studies of for the local students and also european students.
The British are not at all happy about immigrantion but let me remind them about their history. They were the first people to got out from their home country and started invading other countries for their own benefits.
In India, they ruled for 100 years and its more than enough duration to ripp off the entire economy of that country..........also France did the same .
And now when we come to their country (not for free ) , than whats the problem...........
The country itself dont produce anything but rely on other countries for their consumption. Education is the biggest exports ..........and nothing else. Oh there one more thing for exports and that is Arms and ammunition which are sold at high prices to the developing countries and in return gets mineral oils, foods, etc.
SO my friends, dont unnecessary debate on the citizenship and passports......I would suggest everyone in this forum to read and explore their history before making any remarks..........History is there to teach you from your mistakes.
I am not offending anyone but truth is bitter...........Its a global world today and living separately doesnt make any sense. If We need you, you also need us.
Atlast There is NO SUCH THING AS FREE LUNCH. So dont think that you guys are doing any favour to us or we doing any favour to you. The life is all about GiVE AND TAKE. If you give us something, you also take something from us.
Let me also Clarify .........Dont Call Indians as Asians. If you have ever read geography in your school days or seen a map of the world.
Asia is too big and compromises of lot of countries with different cultures, tradition and values. In Asia, there is India, Pakistan and China and all are different from each other. DOnt think that Indians look similar to Chinese ( have to get a eye check-up, if you think so).
Call Us what we are.........................................Indians.
India comprimises of 24 states and all have diffrent cultures, traditions...........You can say its entire europe. We got 18 official languages and over 500 spoken languages in India.
Dont count us as Asians.................................a humble request from an Indian.
In Uk, there are scottish, British and Irish. How will a scottish person will feel when Someone will call him British and vice versa.
So please dont call us as Asians.............................I am an Indian and i would like to be called as an Indian.
Hey Szarlotka, RaZz , Decorator ..............nice hearing from you guys. can you send me your email ID , i got lovely pics of entire india which i can forward to you.....................see it yourself which you have never seen before......a true india.
Hey FISZ, r u not proud of your country.............u say its being hyped but i think its all about being proud from where you belong....................
wow...thats strong words..pakistani guys give polish girls a bad name because 90% of us are moslems and perverts and nobody likes us in england. Could it be that some of you are jealous? some of us pakistanis are very highly educated and are very good looking? BTW, I am a doctor married to a very educated good looking english woman. Sorry, I have no intend to be on this website and it just came in my search, was shocked to hear this sterotyping.
its not that we a re muslims its just that peolple think that we would fall in a relationship just to get a bloody citizenship. and yeah there are some perverts too. a rotten fish in a pond will make the whole pond dirty.
Alex , im from SA and im not Cathlic and for me to get married here in Poland was a nightmare really !!! I hope you are Cathlic or you have certificates from you Church because the priest will ask you !! And your permit will take like 2 months and everything is slow ! Oh , remember the Poles do business differently and its hard here man !, i couldnt even open a bank acount until i had my permit , i was pissed ! Good Luck !
it is not wise to marry a Polish girl. They all change when they know that they have got their claws around you. All women change, especially Polish women. competition starts as a joke but becomes more serious as time goes on.
Why is our car old when he has a new one? Why do we have a flat and not a house? My friend is a doctor and earns £100,000 a year, why can't you? WARNING, beware!
I'm a South African married to a Polish guy. Got married in England. Applied in England for a permit. Took us 6months and didn't get any where. Home office couldn't proceed with the application.
I went back to South-Africa to got a Polish visa, for a period of time 30days. I also applied for a permit in Poland. Required some papers, don't have it, so know must go back to South-Africa to get it.
Also found out from migration office in Poland that when your are married to a Polish citizen and your visa has expired you can live in Poland , but you anyway need a permit visa to stay hear and to work.
I am planning to return in one months time to Poland get my permit visa and then want to go to England with my husband to work.
Can any one help me, is that a possibility, can something like that happened, to work in England on a Polish permit? If you need a visa, what visa do I need and papers?
If someone can help me I will be so gratefull. We are already married for three years!
why dont you apply for dual nationality? then you would have the right to live and work in the UK as an EU citizen. I assume that you could hold both a SA and a Polish passport? I dont think it would be of any influence that you got married in the UK since neither of you are British... might be wrong about this though.
orange here is how works if you had married him here in poland wold be easy then you could go with him to work in the UK once he is a EU citizen and you are married with him you have the rights to work in the UK dont think you will need the permit to work in Poland , if he already has a job in the UK and works you can go to the embassy of england in poland and ask to a family reunion visa that permit you to work and live in the UK for as long as you partner is there also if he leave you must leave too . this is if you do it by the book once you there working the UK home office staff will have a hard time to find out if you there with you partner or not .
this is if you do it by the book once you there working the UK home office staff will have a hard time to find out if you there with you partner or not .
oh thats nice.. yet another illegal immigrant in the UK.
to apply for polish passport once you been married for 3 years is possible but you must had lived in poland for most of the 3 years not leaving the country for more then 6 monthes per year am not sure how long were you able to stay out side poland during the 3 years but most of this time you had to stay in poland anyway , and if you never had the residence permit for defined period of time what is 2 years then will be hard to get a polish passport that will alowed you to work freely in the UK so you still can go as an EU citizen spouse and live and work in England in teory for long as the EU spouse does so .
oh thats nice.. yet another illegal immigrant in the UK
hope she does not go down that way hope she does only stay if the spouse also stay but the option is always there .
I didn't get married in Poland but in England, but I've got a marridge certificate registered in Poland
Also I can't passed the border with only a marridge certificate. Mustn't I have any visa as well? Also the last year and half I was staying with him hear in Poland.
