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UK bus company boss jailed for hiring an incompetent Pole


rafik 18 | 589  
10 Jul 2008 /  #61
I hate to defend noimi rafik but he is right. The driver is suposed to be a professional and he should have been aware of what was in the road. He should have made absolutly sure that the road was passable. To say that he couldn't see bacause of the sun viser is a lame excuse.

i could partly agree with him but saying that the driver is guilty because he was polish is as just ridiculous as most of his threads.supposedly you don't speak too much polish but this doesn't make you a bad driver,does it?.how many words one need to know to read the road signs?if the cherry picker was parked on the road why there was no temporary lights or a high visibility triangle,fence on the street?the ch. picker was probably parked on the pavement with the basket hanging over the street. in this case there should be some protection on the street. the driver was concentrating on the road and the sun visor was down.it is not perfect excuse though.he should have been aware that things like that may come pop up and know how to deal with it.still,i think,that it was just a chain of very unfortunate events.why the driver was lost?if they employed so many polish there should be at least one person in the offices who could translate/help.fortunately for the driver the court saw where the guilt lied.unfortunately one young man died and the tragedy should have been prevented if all appriopriate safety regulations were in place.
wozzy 8 | 206  
11 Jul 2008 /  #62
I live in the area, and in fact I know one of the directors involved,he has run a bus company a few hundred yards from mine. That firm went to the wall some years ago. the guy is very draconian to say the least and a definate chancer, this time he has come unstuck allong with his partner who seems to be just as reckless,(birds of a feather stick together as they say).

They desrved what they got, unfortunately this type of person are like a massive oil slick and never seem to go away.
ShelleyS 14 | 2,893  
11 Jul 2008 /  #63
I couldnt have put it better myself...
hairball 20 | 313  
11 Jul 2008 /  #64
No, it was stationary at the time, the bus was a double decker and hit the cherry picker as pointed out the sun visor in the drivers cab obscured his vision and he didnt see the cherrypicker.

I passed a cherrypicker on my rout today. I couldn't see the box, or the guy inside of it because it was up in the air and yes my sun visor obscured the view.

GUESS WHAT FOLKS. I SLOWED DOWN TO A CRAWL and made sure there was enough room to pass safely.

It's not rocket science. The driver had no excuse and should have made sure it was safe to pass.

Yes. As incompetent as some of the drivers they employed

You got it right there Mr Koolo
Wroclaw 44 | 5,384  
11 Jul 2008 /  #65
I passed a cherrypicker on my rout today. I couldn't see the box, or the guy inside of it because it was up in the air and yes my sun visor obscured the view.

Interesting. From the newspaper photo the cherry picker appears to be parked in a side street with only the basket overhanging the main road.

With what you have said and what the photo suggests, it seems to me that the accident may have been unavoidable.

I'm still bothered by the fact that there was no safety crew on the ground. Or, were they there and the bus driver ignored them ? Too many unanswered questions for me.
hairball 20 | 313  
11 Jul 2008 /  #66
unavoidable.

I've looked carefully at the photo and although the cherrypicker is on the footpath he is clearly working on something next to the road. As a professional driver you have to be aware of all hazards weather thet be on the road or on the footpath. The excuse that he couldn't see because of his viser is pathetic. The "accident" was 100% avoidable with a little thought from the driver. Surely he should have been able to see all on his approach.
Wroclaw 44 | 5,384  
11 Jul 2008 /  #67
Surely he should have been able to see all on his approach.

That's why in an earlier post I asked if the bucket was moving. It seems it wasn't.
It was reported in the Telegraph that he was actually working on the side of the building. I'm just curious that's all.

You are right. He should have seen the hazard. And it might have been easier to see some distance before he hit it. It would only be when the driver was up close that he might not have seen it.

OK I'm gonna let this one go. I'm now pursuaded that the driver was responsible.
postie 7 | 112  
12 Jul 2008 /  #68
why do i still come back here... when there are active bnp types here ruining a decent forum....

sort it out mods... this fella is a ******* nightmare!

see you in a couple of months.
craic_monster 1 | 44  
26 Jul 2008 /  #69
Don't get me wrong, guys, I'm not anti-Pole. If I was, I wouldn't be trying to learn the language or be on this forum.

But the other day I was driving in town when this artic pulled out of a side road. That's OK, as a biker I expect cr*p like that. Except that he pulled out onto the wrong side of the road - MY side of the road.

Yep, the lorry was Poland registered. Now, the guy could have been Slovenian, Bosnian or Czećen for all I know, but he drove like sh**e and he was Poland-registered.

Drivers of all nationalities who go trans-Europe (using right-side and wrong-side) should be forced to take a special test every year to make sure they're up to the job.

The aforementioned cretin wasn't up to the job and should begiven a good GPS system which means he doesn't have to go through housing estates in the first place.
Mister H 11 | 761  
26 Jul 2008 /  #70
I agree with you Craic_Monster.

The standards of driving in general are really bad in this country. It's a lethal combination of UK drivers who haven't taken a driving test or had an eye examination since they were 17 and foreign drivers.

There has been a lot of accidents caused by such drivers and there will be many more I fear.
Michal - | 1,865  
28 Jul 2008 /  #71
ager had hired an incompetent English driver who killed someone I'm sure he would have been jailed under those circumstances so what exactly is this post trying to say.

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In Gerrard we Trust

No, there must be more to this than meets the eye. A driver who killed someone would not in itself place blame on the boss. There must be more details that have not been shown here. Mind you, about a year ago, there was a drunk Polish bus driver who drove in to a bus shelter and then just drove off!

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