Return PolishForums LIVE
  PolishForums Archive :
Archives - 2005-2009 / UK, Ireland  % width 71

UK bus company boss jailed for hiring an incompetent Pole


noimmigration  
7 Jul 2008 /  #1
A bus company boss was jailed for hiring an incompetent pole who killed a man because he couldn't speak english.

Two bus company chiefs who hired Polish drivers who didn't speak English or know how to handle a double- decker have been jailed after a workman was knocked down and killed.

The 27-year-old workman was at the top of a 'cherry picker' crane when it was hit by a bus with Polish driver Krzysztof Ociepa at the wheel.

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1032876/Bus-company-bosses-jailed-exhausted-Polish-driver-speak-English-killed-workman-crane.html
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
7 Jul 2008 /  #2
Vicarious liability issue. It says sth about UK authorities, undercutting swines.
tornado2007 11 | 2,274  
7 Jul 2008 /  #3
Yeah, lol maybe they could have a look at some of the drivers in Exeter too, they are so bad, i mean really, your supposed to stop at a bus stop, not crash into it and nearly run down four potential customers!!!!. I couldn't believe it, the guy still has his job!!!
Zgubiony 15 | 1,554  
7 Jul 2008 /  #4
A bus company boss was jailed for hiring an incompetent

That's what you get for being criminal. He deserves it.
tornado2007 11 | 2,274  
7 Jul 2008 /  #5
lol thats what you get for hiring Polish bus drivers!!!! they are crazy, he deserves to go away for a long time lol.
szarlotka 8 | 2,209  
7 Jul 2008 /  #6
If the manager had hired an incompetent English driver who killed someone I'm sure he would have been jailed under those circumstances so what exactly is this post trying to say.
tornado2007 11 | 2,274  
7 Jul 2008 /  #7
well as you can see, there is a lol at the end of my sentence, so it is quite clearly a joke. Yes of course if he hired an incompetent English driver he would go down too. I've had a few hairy experiences with Polish bus drivers though :) I just referred to the Exeter buses and how some of the managers there have not been jailed for hiring incompetent drivers.
OP noimmigration  
7 Jul 2008 /  #8
this post is saying that, it is ridiculous that we are employing incompetent eastern european immigrants, who come here and cant even speak english.

This polish bus driver couldnt even read road signs that expressed danger.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
7 Jul 2008 /  #9
Maybe they are crazy in the UK (Poles) but they are not here. One or two, like anywhere, but the majority are good drivers.
tornado2007 11 | 2,274  
7 Jul 2008 /  #10
This polish bus driver couldnt even read road signs that expressed danger.

actually i have to back you up here, if not with the bus drivers, it has been clearly noted that Polish lorry drivers and other eastern europeans cannot read, speak or understand any english, therefore they are a danger when driving on our roads
Zgubiony 15 | 1,554  
7 Jul 2008 /  #11
what exactly is this post trying to say.

It has no purpose...really. It's not news that UK employers are trying to save money and hiring people that shouldn't be driving. Nothing shocking here...he's just trying to take a popshot...
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
7 Jul 2008 /  #12
But don't they have GPS navigation systems in Polish? They should do some kind of basic training to avert this danger.
szarlotka 8 | 2,209  
7 Jul 2008 /  #13
This polish bus driver couldnt even read road signs that expressed danger

So he should not have been employed. Fault lies with management who are under cost pressures and a difficulty in finding staff and who are in effect cutting corners and jeopardising the safety of customers and other road users.

Blame the management brothers
OP noimmigration  
7 Jul 2008 /  #14
I personally would not drive 50 hours a week in a country where I could not even understand the road signs. It is another example of polish greed, that greedy b*stard driving the bus should have been prosecuted.
tornado2007 11 | 2,274  
7 Jul 2008 /  #15
It has no purpose...really. It's not news that UK employers are trying to save money and hiring people that shouldn't be driving.

that is what it should be pointing out.

But don't they have GPS navigation systems in Polish? They should do some kind of basic training to avert this danger.

well i can't tell you the exact truth because i don't know, I assumed your tomtom go was just for the UK etc, so therefore the Polish one would be the same. This works for directions but not danger signs and some roadwork signs etc.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
7 Jul 2008 /  #16
I agree with that too. He had a duty of care that he didn't exercise reasonably. He was the proximate cause of the death. Everyone can be afforded but of this scale?
VaFunkoolo 6 | 654  
7 Jul 2008 /  #17
Hairball. Your Polish is good enough to read road signs mate, isn't it?
Mister H 11 | 761  
7 Jul 2008 /  #18
It has no purpose...really. It's not news that UK employers are trying to save money and hiring people that shouldn't be driving. Nothing shocking here...he's just trying to take a popshot...

Why isn't it a story ?

Yes, they shouldn't have been hired, but why did they apply for a job that they so obviously couldn't do properly ?

They all should be doing time and not 15 months either.
OP noimmigration  
8 Jul 2008 /  #19
I found another article, according to this article. The guy who was killed by this illiterate pole was a father.

Now when his child grows up someone will have to explain that some eastern european immigrant, killed his father.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
8 Jul 2008 /  #20
It's always going to be hard. Saying that it was manslaughter and not murder doesn't change the fact that he is dead and his family will be grieving.

The bereavement process takes its toll in all manner of ways. It wasn't a racially motivated killing tho noimmi.
rafik 18 | 589  
8 Jul 2008 /  #21
this post is saying that, it is ridiculous that we are employing incompetent eastern european immigrants, who come here and cant even speak english.
This polish bus driver couldnt even read road signs that expressed danger.

wiltshiretimes.co.uk/news/chippenhamnews/display.var.2351008.0.0.php?act=complaint&cid=1677030

there is a short story from wiltshire.the driver speaks very good english because he is english,could read the signs but failed to inform his employer that he was a disqualified driver.what can you say about this guy noimmi?

i read the story you gave us to read and tell me who was guilty in this case?a bus driver who grabbed the opportunity to earn for his living or the greedy english?how the driver from my story compares with the driver from your story?
anja_rose 3 | 37  
8 Jul 2008 /  #22
hahaha. if you look-- you can find anything,
the fact is there are good and bad drivers from any country, same as there are good and bad/stupid and intelligent people from every place.

its a pity you (cherry)pick all your stories from the 'highly respected' mail all the time...
Wroclaw 44 | 5,385  
8 Jul 2008 /  #23
Can someone please explain to me how the bus driver hit the cherry-picker. The bus doesn't seem to have left the road. The cherry-picker doesn't appear to be on the (same) road. Were there any bollards on the street, or any warning signs ?

I can understand the sun-visor blocking the drivers view, but I can't understand why the cherry-picker crew didn't take any safety measures. After all, if they were working at height there should have been a safety guy on the ground.

Thoughts based on the news photo.
Wroclaw Boy  
8 Jul 2008 /  #24
The infamouns noimmy strikes a blow at the Poles yet again, anything to knock a nation. One day the Poles will be out of the UK then whats he gonna do, blame the Pakistani's. Heres a profile of an angry boy that spends a lot of time searching media to knock them down cos hes been dissed by a Polish girl.

He actually reminds me of a person close to me who just cant see the big picture no matter what. An extrememly sad individual who this post will fall on deaf ears only serve to fuel his anger even more thinking that by people like me posting this he has achieved his target, a right little nasty bastardo.
szarlotka 8 | 2,209  
8 Jul 2008 /  #25
Can you imagine how long the trials are going to go on if noimmi ever qualifies as a barrister? No facts or learned opinions will sway him from his preprepared arguments!
szkotja2007 27 | 1,498  
8 Jul 2008 /  #26
if noimmi ever qualifies as a barrister?

LoL
OP noimmigration  
8 Jul 2008 /  #27
One day the Poles will be out of the UK then whats he gonna do, blame the Pakis. Heres a profile of an angry boy that spends a lot of time searching media to knock them down cos hes been dissed by a Polish girl.

I have no problem with the (born and bred) asians that are here, I only have a problem with muslims and immigration (eu and non eu).

there is a short story from wiltshire.the driver speaks very good english because he is english,could read the signs but failed to inform his employer that he was a disqualified driver.what can you say about this guy noimmi?

for being disqualified it is likely he would go to prison and rightly so. Disqualification is a very serious punishment that is used as an alternative for a custodial sentance.

Can someone please explain to me how the bus driver hit the cherry-picker. The bus doesn't seem to have left the road. The cherry-picker doesn't appear to be on the (same) road. Were there any bollards on the street, or any warning signs ?
I can understand the sun-visor blocking the drivers view, but I can't understand why the cherry-picker crew didn't take any safety measures. After all, if they were working at height there should have been a safety guy on the ground.

Thoughts based on the news photo.

It is the driver of the bus that has a care of duty towards the cherry picker, not the other way around. wether or not there were signs is irrelevant as under the law of delict (tort), It is the driver that has to extend the duty of care towards the workman, not the other way around
espana 17 | 910  
8 Jul 2008 /  #28
have no problem with the (born and bred) asians that are here

this poor people are called pakis in england and english in pakistan ,,,they cant win !!!
Wroclaw Boy  
8 Jul 2008 /  #29
I have no problem with the (born and bred) asians that are here, I only have a problem with muslims and immigration (eu and non eu).

Whats your opinion on the world becoming a smaller place and the fact that economies need to integrate in order to save our planet? and also to compete with emerging soon to be superpowers like Indian and China, EU needs to integrate now in order to have power as a world voice before they get too strong. Poland is part of that integration, give to recieve scenario. United we are strong.
szkotja2007 27 | 1,498  
8 Jul 2008 /  #30
not the other way around.

I disagree - negligence needs to be found. If the driver couldnt see the cherrypicker, he couldn't be found to be negligent.

Archives - 2005-2009 / UK, Ireland / UK bus company boss jailed for hiring an incompetent PoleArchived