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Wot? No beer allowed on Polish PKP?


Dougpol  
22 Aug 2008 /  #1
What a sick joke. I trhought the chaps in WARS on the Gdynia-Zakopane express were pulling my leg as in communist times when they said no beer is served today on Polish trains.

So I retreated sadly to my seat to plan B - a cool bottle of Tyskie...only to be confronted by two Ochrony from Juwentus who told me off for breaking the law. Needless to say all the way to my destination I curmudgeonly continued to ignore this as "the law sir is an ass."

Why do you Poles stand for this nonsense law prohibiting beer in such as railway journeys, especially when people can still smoke? Totalitarian behaviour returns.
dtaylor 9 | 823  
22 Aug 2008 /  #2
Smoking is banned on trains too, and i agree with banning drink on public transport. To many idiots ruin good jouney by getting drunk and causing problems.
espana 17 | 910  
22 Aug 2008 /  #3
last week i went to an englishpakipolish shop for buy water. the shop only sell water for poland , and i ask the guy why he dont sell english water,

he smiled and said , i sell english sugar (not polish) but polish people came to this shop asking me for polish sugar and they dont buy the english one.

come on this is ridiculous sugar and water are the bloody same in all the world.
OP Dougpol  
22 Aug 2008 /  #4
Smoking is banned on trains too, and i agree with banning drink on public transport. To many idiots ruin good jouney by getting drunk and causing problems.

Beer is not "drink" and there is a conductor and transport police to deal with drunks -it is fact that there are few objectionable drunks on Polish trains. Let's ban garlic sausage and BO while we're at it.

And overt queers too - it all amounts to the same thing.

In the meantime - carry on beer drinkers - they can't bust us all. A law like this was made to be broken in my view and we need people to lead civil disobedience on the trains to this bureacratic nonsense - all in my view of course - but thanks for your draconian and upstanding opinion.
Switezianka - | 463  
22 Aug 2008 /  #5
WTF?
I've drunk beer on a train a few times, an saw a guy selling beer on train a thousand times. The conductor never minded...

Dougpol, they must have been making fun of you...
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
23 Aug 2008 /  #6
I don't think beer is illegal on trains tho I may be wrong. I'm with dtaylor tho, it's a public place and dealing with moronic louts ain't my idea of fun. I remember having to sit beside young twats who were at a gig in Stirling. They were wasted and obnoxious.

The problem is, people go on long journeys and beer is some kind of solace for them. In Japan, it's acceptable as they respect others space better than we do. It's their reward after a long day's slog at the office. Bento and Kirin Ichiban, nice
esek 2 | 228  
23 Aug 2008 /  #7
Poland - public transport - drinking isn't allowed - it's a law. btw, it's veeeery good law. Unfortunately there are still many places in trains where you can smoke - this also shouldn't be allowed :/
okgirl66 3 | 90  
23 Aug 2008 /  #8
I liked the signs in the trams in Krakow that used little pictures to advise you that you weren't allowed to "drink, eat, smoke or ............ play trumpets!!" At least I think that's what they meant ?!
osiol 55 | 3,922  
23 Aug 2008 /  #9
play trumpets

It's worse when someone starts playing their double bass on a train. However, warning people against this practice on signs isn't easy due to the huge size of the warning signs that would be required.
Switezianka - | 463  
23 Aug 2008 /  #10
Once, the driver told me off while I was playing the guitar with my amp and speakers on a bus. He said I would discharge the battery.
Kowalski 7 | 621  
26 Aug 2008 /  #11
The latest news: fine for drinking beer on PKP is now 500 pln
dtaylor 9 | 823  
26 Aug 2008 /  #12
Should be higher.
OP Dougpol  
27 Aug 2008 /  #13
The latest news: fine for drinking beer on PKP is now 500 pln

Thanks for letting me know - but I am sorry but in my view this says something about your society that you can allow yourselves to be dictated to like this.

I enjoy your country, but you have crazy traffic laws - like 24 points - who was ever banned for exceeding this - and other more pressing social problems such as imported loutish behaviour like graffiti everywhere.....and people laugh it off as art.

Yet the same people support the banning of a beer or two on a long distance train?
Idiotic in my view - and yes I did appreciate the humurous responses although this "ban" gets under my collar.

I shall carry on drinking ( though more carefully of course) - this law is a joke and clearly doesn't apply to people like me who know how to behave themselves.
Uncle Bob 2 | 82  
27 Aug 2008 /  #14
you have crazy traffic laws - like 24 points - who was ever banned for exceeding this

24 points that are renewed every year, is it not?
dnz 17 | 710  
27 Aug 2008 /  #15
The latest news: fine for drinking beer on PKP is now 500 pln

Vodka is perfectly acceptable though as long as its before 9am,

If you can't drink on a train and therefore arrive at your destination steaming drunk then what are the actual benefits over driving? The trains here are awful and beer goggles make them seem acceptable.
Andrew78 - | 97  
27 Aug 2008 /  #16
Hi DP it's not late for you buddy
OP Dougpol  
27 Aug 2008 /  #17
Sorry Andrew? Mind a bit numb through accidentally drinking a not so small mini of Spiritus instead of cysta while watching Sopcast of the footie in the dark.

An easy mistake to make - hic!
sobieski 107 | 2,128  
29 Aug 2008 /  #18
Smoking is now forbidden on all Intercity trains. Thanks God :)
As for alcohol... I took the IC from Gdańsk to Warsaw somewhere in May and when I ordered in the restaurant car a non-alcoholic Żywiec (the bottles with the blue ribbon), the girl at the counter suddenly asked "if I would not prefer Tyskie".

Which was not on the menu list and definitely was the standard Tyskie you buy everywhere.
When I asked if this was not forbidden, she shrugged and just told "sure" and smiled.
hihi123 - | 1  
9 Aug 2009 /  #19
Ah, them little busybodies up in the office somewhere are so quick to ruin the fun.

I guess some businessman from Warsaw had some beer spilt on his new imac or something. Oh noes, the world shall end!
plk123 8 | 4,150  
9 Aug 2009 /  #20
sugar ........ are the bloody same in all the world.

nope.. there is quite a bit of difference between caine and beet sugar. i have to search for the beet kind around here.
SzwedwPolsce 11 | 1,595  
9 Aug 2009 /  #21
It's not allowed, but many people drink anyway when the PKP staff don't see it.
Lefty 13 | 124  
9 Aug 2009 /  #22
Yeah this is true, as is the widespread issue of people not bothering with a ticket.
irishdeano 5 | 304  
9 Aug 2009 /  #23
Its great its banned. There is too many Assh*les who drink. You know if you cant do a journey on a train without having alcohol its a sign of being a semi - alcoholic maybe better you go get some help before it gets any worst

I was at a small train station about 2 weeks ago it was about 11.15pm, it was full of drunk spanish and french around 25-40 of them stupid Fu8kers they were aswell. They were running across the track back and forward one of them also fell on the track. One nearly got hit by a train. They talked completly **** and acting they were hard and then also got on the train i was getting.
delphiandomine 87 | 18,463  
9 Aug 2009 /  #24
And there's currently an idiotic proposal to unban Vodka from the trains....

only to be confronted by two Ochrony from Juwentus who told me off for breaking the law.

Laugh at them, there's nothing they can do about it. The Railway police are a different story, but these private Polish security companies are hilariously limp wristed.

The sensible thing to do would have been to ban alcohol from all but Eurocity, Intercity, Express and sleeper cars - the type of idiot that causes trouble because of alcohol isn't going to be paying the price for those trains.
SzwedwPolsce 11 | 1,595  
9 Aug 2009 /  #25
The sensible thing to do would have been to ban alcohol from all but Eurocity, Intercity, Express and sleeper cars - the type of idiot that causes trouble because of alcohol isn't going to be paying the price for those trains.

Good idea. I think we all know what kind of people that causes most of the problems, both on trains and in many other places.
ShelleyS 14 | 2,893  
9 Aug 2009 /  #26
I liked the signs in the trams in Krakow that used little pictures to advise you that you weren't allowed to "drink, eat, smoke or ............ play trumpets!!" At least I think that's what they meant ?!

The one at the trian station in Prague is even better, you were not allowed icecream or guns :) (imagine a sign with a cross through an icecream and a gun)

What a sick joke. I trhought the chaps in WARS on the Gdynia-Zakopane express were pulling my leg as in communist times when they said no beer is served today on Polish trains

If the law says no drinking then people shouldn't drink, you are disrespecting the laws of that country if you continue to act like a prick and drink in places you shouldnt.
frd 7 | 1,399  
9 Aug 2009 /  #27
The funny thing is that those train guards won't touch a group of completely pissed loud chavs, they will only pick on some other normal people who are silentely enjoying their one or two beers...
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
10 Aug 2009 /  #28
That's often true. SOK used to employ mostly some grandpas or some pussies but lately I've seen several times some steroid pumped SOK guards, who looked like they would be happy to beat anybody up If they had any reason for that, which is surprising as after all this is police type formation with rights to arrest people.
irishdeano 5 | 304  
10 Aug 2009 /  #29
steroid pumped

But they are only good when there is a group of them. Its usually 3-5 of them build like brick houses against 1 small guy
wildrover 98 | 4,451  
10 Aug 2009 /  #30
Well , i travelled by train from Koszalin to Gdansk , and was pleasantly suprised to be offered beer and vodka by my travelling companions , and we smoked too...one of the guys was even smoking some rather naughty weed....not at all like British rail i thinks to myself....I arrived in Gdansk pleasantly out of it.....

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