Foreigners: Please don't buy Polish Land!

You are right Frank, but am willing to start a new trend,

Katowice.Masurian Lakes I hear thats pretty country, got a lotta students?

Ok, so well me how Britain saved Poland form the Nazi? The 400k Polish fighting in the British army were rewarded with exile in Britain after being promised Polands freedom. Russia 'liberated' Poland but the communists were worse than the Nazi's. Britain did nothing to liberate Poland, The Americans gave Poland to Stalin.

Beggars? I haven't seen any Polish beggars - has one stolen you favourite pitch?
The Poles are doing our economy good.

is that the british you say that saved Poland from the Nazi's?

Ola,

Instead of blaming foreigners getting into Poland and buying, blame your government who apperently finds it normal and even stimulating for highly educated polish people to leave their home land and do the (mostly) lowest paid jobs in Western Europe (cleaning, working on farm land). Besides the fact that some people in your (local) gouvernment(s) probably make a lot of money because of those Foreigners coming in........

Don't blame foreigners, blame Polish voters who have voted for this investment climate....
And oh yeah, brace yourself once the Euro comes in. Then everybody will be in dire straits and you will have legitimate reason to hate Belgians (Brussels)......

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Thanks for the warnings, (one of the benefits of this forum is getting good information)
Thank You, I think Polish people are too smart to be allowed to be dictated by the people on the high side of town. The current situation in Poland is such that young couples on average income will never be able to afford owning there own house, this is not on, Poles will not allow there country to be brought by British and Irish speculators, who at the end of the day make their money at the hands of the Polish battler.

Its about time the Polish government imposed such high taxes on non polish people who deal in the property market that they would have no choice but to pack their bags and go home..

Lef,

i agree with what you are saying, but aren't alot of the Polish farmers making very good money from selling their land. You don't even have to have a road, or all general services to it, to be able to sell it, my wife and I looked at alot of blocks we thought where over priced, and came with no services, some of them you would need a 4wd to get to in winter.

That may be so, but then they are unable to buy anything better than what they have sold.

Would part of the problem the EU and its policies regarding the free movement of goods, services and people? The EU and its institutions have some fairly strict guidelines and regulations in relation to domestic laws that are perceived to be 'discriminatory'.

So, unless there is legislation to protect Polish people (i.e. laws limiting foreign ownership) and this legislation withstands the 'discrimination' test set by the EU and its Treaties, I imagine that for the average Polish farmer who is unable to afford to purchase land in his or her own country - there are probably not many options available to them.

True. But farmland is for farming, so don't expect to build a housing estate on the land.

Wroclaw, as you know, just go for a drive outseide Wroclaw, most of it 10 years ago would have been farming land, now its housing estates. not all but the small towns closer to the big ones.

David,

I have to agree that there is a lot of building going on in the nearby countryside. For me, it seems that small villages are getting bigger rather than building companies starting anew on a fresh plot of land.

I just wonder what foreign investors have in store for us. I also wonder If they understand the culture and tradition of countryside living. A beautiful English country scene won't work in Poland. It also worries me that people with money might try and buy up small villages, which will displace the local population. I see problems ahead for both sides and it will take good legislation to keep everyone happy.

agreed, don't want any poms living next to me :) lol

well, we are coming david :)

lucky i bought the blocks either side of me then :)

thats ok, maybe i rent from you :)

Ill buy as much ;and as i wish as long as it makes me rich !

i remember when i sold a car there was a guy who i didnt want to buy it, even tho he offered me the asking price... so i didnt sell it to him... simple, huh?

if poles dont want foreigners buying their land then stop selling it to us... and stop overinflating the price so that the only people who can afford it are overseas investors... simple, huh?

its a ripple effect... the more you charge for the land, the more the investor is going to charge for whatever is built on it... simple, huh?

polish property owners are pricing their fellow countrymen out of the market... stupid, huh?

Thats a good and honest answer BubbaWoo, however the polish property owners may have the last laugh when property prices crash, which they will. The three towns which maintain current high prices Krakow, Warsaw, Gdansk (and surrounds) will still have to battle for continued demand for water, gas,and electricity. It will be unable to serviced due to over-development. The current process used for disposal of human waste and grey water is old and need of major overhaul.

The smart investor has already moved on and now accessing over property markets in eastern Europe. I might add properties in the Czech republic are much nicer and a fraction of the cost of those investment properties in Poland.

Some people are slow learners.

The Brits are used to house prices crashing, some win some lose, live and let live I say

The whole point of the Eropean Union is that members can live, work and holiday anywhere within the Union freeley. I could buy a house in Poland, work in Italy and holiday in Spain. In 50 years time the populations will be mixed. I can fly to krakow quicker than it takes me to get out of London in peak rush hour.

Poland is now in the european union...that means that Polish people have every right to go to the uk and take English jobs from English people...I welcomed eight Polish people into my home so that they could have jobs in England..I didnt have a problem with that...On the other hand i moved to Poland and bought a run down farm here,, and intend to make my life here...I have to say i have not experianced any hostility from any Polish people,,in fact the opposite,, they have helped me so much ....Economic migration is a fact of life...get used to it..and take advantage of it...be proud to be Polish..and when you have made your money in the UK ..come back to Poland and invest your money here....I am English by the way.....Jan

Exactly!
They don't know how good they have it most of the time.

I have had a lot of Polish workers alongside me recently some extoll Poland and some are buying property back home. Certainly some bemoan life at home. Isn't that common to the world? When the British housing boom took off I took big risks to join it. Some Poles take the risk others do not. The risk may well take excessive hour work for many years as is the case the world over.

As a number of the English (plus Canadians, Americans and Irish) buying in Poland have Polish fathers or mothers at what point do they not become Polish?

Hmm.

Both my parents are from Poland, and Polish (though the large noses and dark hair may suggest just a *little* ethnic mixing at some time in the past ;) ). They moved to the UK between the 1940s and mid-1960s. My mum and stepdad (who is also Polish) own a house in the UK. I was born here, though.

So is it OK for me to move to Poland and buy property there, or am I also to be regarded as a "greedy capitalist foreigner"? Or are you and your crew going to burn down my flat and stab me up for being foreign?

The longer I spend in Poland, the more I realise how Polish I actually am, irrespective of where I was actually born. I love my country, but I can't and won't deny my roots or ethnicity.

Now I know how black and Asian people feel when they are told "f*** off back to where you came from", when in fact they and their parents are actually from Birmingham. :D

When you move to poland live and work here it is ok but I am against foreigners who "invest" in Poland, do not live in Poland and buy only to sell when pice is right or keep flats empty while young polish people have no money to buy their own because they are too expensive. It do nothing good to its economy but push pices up.

Capitalists NO

People who want to work and live here YES

Looks like I'm safe then lol :)

so far... so far :P