Poles learning from the British?

Actually Indians put milk in it too, its called chai.. and tea originates from China, although India is now the biggest producer. I dont know where vodka orginates from, but would have thought it was Russia........<sharp intake of breath>

the mongolians drink tea with milk also. If anyone would like to know any other facts, they may tap from my extensive knowledge by asking me anything they want to know.

OK... so how much does your mum charge ?

Tea was "nicked" from China,its not native to india...


er,Britain doesnt have a writen constitution....what we did have though is Magna Carta in 1215,only a few hundred years before Poland had anything close....


yeah,coz vienna didnt fall in what the renaisence....never heard of the english channel? The full might of spain and turkey couldnt get here,I rather think your streching facts thingking the ottomans were baying at our door until a few Hussars kicked butt :)


Yeah,thanks a friggin bundle for that...;)


Scandinavian....
But apart from all that,yeah,thanks Poland :)

ABSOLUT ely

So anyone else who drinks vodka nicked the idea off the Poles?
So, by the same logic, tea isn't Polish, therefore Poles don't know how to drink tea properly either.

aperently the Poles nicked tea off the russians who had been drinking tea for centuries :)

Ahh yes the magnificent Magna Carta. Was it actually respected through the mifddle ages?

The first document that vividly limited the power of Polish king in favor of polish gentry was certainly the Privilege of Koszyce from 1374, although of course there were few privileges set before. Still it's not even 200 years after your Magna Carta.


They make nice vodka, but you must be the first one who said that they invented it. Lol


The Chinese are also known for their love towards tea and yet I don't see them being obsessed with adding milk to it. What experts should I listen to then?

I'll stick to my guns.

Yeah, thanks

PS if a decent kettle isn't a standard fitting for every kitchen you can be pretty sure the country knows nothing about tea

About vodka, was the original distilled liquid the same as the stuff we have today?

The strength may have varied considerably over history. It would have been much milder before certain technologies reached European parts. Modern day vodka is that it is distilled into almost pure alcohol before being watered down to the determined strength (sometimes they seem to forget to put the water back in).

The recipe has certainly varied. Potato? The Andean root vegetable not introduced to Poland until 1708 and not even popular in any part of Europe until the early 19th century, only widely cultivated in Russia after an earlier law started to be enforced by Tsar Nicholas I? Surely it should be made from cereal grain such as rye or maybe barley.

Beer has been with as for as long as we've had bread.
Wine is as more ancient than grape juice.
Mead! Whoa! Let's all go to a mediaeval-style banquet and do some quaffing.

But of the beverages collectively known as spirits?

Distillation was known in the ancient world. From Mesopotamia to Greece, the Roman Empire, Britain before the Roman Empire, other places I don't, and probably archaeologists don't even know about.

The alembic was an advancement in distillation. A revolutionary still. It originated in Persia, was perfected along the way by such greats as the philosopher, mathematician, astronomer, physician and all-round clever clogs, Avicenna (real name: something really long and Arabicky-sounding). Used for creating lotions and perfumes and for attempting to turn base metal into gold, it was spread to Europe by our old teetotal friends the Turks who passed on the partially Greek-derived Arabic name to various European languages. More importantly, it was an advancement in alcohol production (one step forward, several steps roughly from side to side, then fall over). Where are we? The 15th and 16th centuries? Ish.

We even get the word alcohol from Arabic, although the meaning has somewhat changed along the way. Anyway, so we find Portuguese Aguardente (burning water), Eau de Vie (water of life) in France, Whisky (uisge beatha: Gaelic for water of life) in the Celtic lands and Vodka in the Slavic east (water... little water).

In Iberia it was painful! This water burns!
In northwest europe, it's life-giving (but maybe life-taking)!
But to the Poles and or the Russians, pah! It's just some little diminutive of water!

So this makes it look as though the Slavs are the toughest in this regard, and I'm not going to be the one to argue against this statement. So maybe to find the answer to the question 'Who invented vodka?' we could say

a) Who's the hardest, Poles or Russians?
b) They both invented it at the same time and just happened to give it the same name,
c) Blame the Turks - they just wanted to lure all of Europe into their kebab shops.
d) Shut up and just drink it. Do dna!

I need a cup of tea after writing all that.

My my! Pan Doggie you are on form ;-) (so you are looking for lurrrvvv on the forum then?)

As for milk in tea not for a long long time...not in PG, Asam, LG or in my fruit tea oh and definately not in my peppermint tea! As for green tea, tried it once and the box is still in the cupboard minus one tea-bag rotten stuff!

I know - but brits nicked it from India - who nicked
it from China.


oi dingbat - I meant proper constitution - not some tatty petition. Oh thats right Britain doesney have a proper constitution.


Vienne was rescued by Sobieskis mob. From here started ottoman decline
in euro.


Never heard of a boat? 1066?


the spanish were destroyed by a storm in channel not by brit
defenses.


After the battle the Pope and other foreign dignitaries hailed Sobieski as the "Savior of Vienna and Western European civilization


what x -rays and cancer treatment?


no - they nicked Wodka from Poland when they invaded and in return gave them rollmops. What does Wodka mean - in Polish? Notice W not V.


I'm sure that you are welcome