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No Way, No Apology! Poland has every right to support Georgia!


Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11918  
2 Jan 2009 /  #61
Because it is much safer for Poland to have gas pipe line which secure west with gas.

Hmm...sounds rather manipulative, doesn't it?
And Germans should accept just like that that Poland could be using said pipeline to p*iss Russia off and to stick their tongue at Moskau: "..nah nanananah...you can't do anything to us because you need to deliver to western Europe!"

Do you mean that?

Oh and if Russia cut's you off nonetheless we should just accept that too because of our european friendship, ja?

That should be totally acceptable for Germany ja? And you deny Germany any action to prevent that, is it that what do you want to tell me?

And now that Germany finds a way AROUND possible quarrels between POLAND and RUSSIA, now Germany are the baddies and now of course would be an alliance with RUSSIA the only right course of action for Poland, ja?

Have I got it right so far?

So in short your view on the world is this:

Poland abusing and using Germany's pipeline through Poland to Russia = GOOD
Germany avoiding that and building a new pipeline = BAAAAD
Russia using pipeline to possible blackmail but still alliance worthy with Poland!

Ja?
Borrka  37 | 592  
2 Jan 2009 /  #62
Würstel, I don't have enough time just now.
But I strongly suggest you look at the European stats 1985 and 2008.
After DDR-Anschluss lol.

BTW. Do you know this joke ?
What is the difference between Hitler and Putin ?
I mean their main works.
Mein Kampf und kein Mampf.
See you.
Prince  15 | 590  
2 Jan 2009 /  #63
Bratwurst Boy

Poland is democratic country member of EU and NATO. Russia is country supporting all different regimes ... Russia is your friend ... nothing new ...

Poland abusing and using Germany's pipeline through Poland to Russia = GOODGermany avoiding that and building a new pipeline = BAAAADRussia using pipeline to possible blackmail but still alliance worthy with Poland!

The problem is that if this pipe line becomes true we will do everything to make you CRY. It is Polish tradition.

Becuse everybody knows what is the aim of this pipe line.

Poland cuting off western Europe is your bad joke... Russia balckmailing Poland will is reality ...

If you trust more for Russia ... well it is your choice but don't come to Poland and don't talk about anny strategies ect.

This pipe line is stab in our back ...

To be honest I prefere aliances with Americns or Russians... than so called German leaded EU ...
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11918  
2 Jan 2009 /  #64
Würstel, I don't have enough time just now.
But I strongly suggest you look at the European stats 1985 and 2008.
After DDR-Anschluss lol.

Yes?

BTW. Do you know this joke ?
What is the difference between Hitler and Putin ?
I mean their main works.
Mein Kampf und kein Mampf.
See you.

???

Poland is democratic country member of EU and NATO. Russia is country supporting all different regimes ... Russia is your friend ... nothing new ...

Well..you are talking all the time about an alliance with Russia after the pipeline is built...

The problem is that if this pipe line becomes true we will do everything to make you CRY. It is Polish tradition.

Why?
You will get your gas as before...where is the problem?

Russia balckmailing Poland will is reality ...

But still they will become your chums as you said....
Prince  15 | 590  
2 Jan 2009 /  #65
Well..you are talking all the time about an alliance with Russia after the pipeline is built...

Because it is possible result ...
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11918  
2 Jan 2009 /  #66
This pipe line is stab in our back ...

Why???

Because it is possible result ...

Why???
Prince  15 | 590  
2 Jan 2009 /  #67
Why Germany needs pipe line avoiding Baltic states and Poland ? And build pipe line throught nuclear wastes costing bilions euro more?
Seanus  15 | 19666  
2 Jan 2009 /  #68
We've had the why's so let's switch.

Why not? ;)
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11918  
2 Jan 2009 /  #69
To be honest I prefere aliances with Americns or Russians... than so called German leaded EU ...

Well, you aren't especially friendly to us as you are against Americans.
A bit boot licking would work wonders here too...

A smart Pole would know that!

Look at this talk board...you can't help yourself but shoot at Germany and Russia whenever it fits you but you also demand that they coddle you and respect your wishes...

You HATE Germany, you FEAR Russia...but can't help yourself to p*iss us off at every turn and then you scream bloody murder if your neighbours lose patience and cooperate without you?

Good cooperation goes both ways Luki!
Do you really think you can convince a German who did just read your posts to become inclined to listen to you???
Prince  15 | 590  
2 Jan 2009 /  #70
And I am just telling you to be very careful because at the end ... there may be Russian sex party in Berlin ... as it was in the past ... but at the begining there was such love between Russia and Germany ...

If you think you can punish us just because we are more pro american than you ... well Dutch and Danish send more troops with Americans like Poles because all this cuntries are your neighbours we know each other so good

... such projects like this pipe lines don't help you ...
Seanus  15 | 19666  
2 Jan 2009 /  #71
youtube.com/watch?v=hHkhzNLHC4g
here's a very good German-Russian partnership.

2 very good groups, TATU and Rammstein. Poland has every right to listen to this kind of stuff. No apology!

Oh, Bison ;)
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11918  
2 Jan 2009 /  #72
And I am just telling you to be very careful because at the end ... there may be Russian sex party in Berlin ... as it was in the past

Russians are already in Berlin....partying...:)

There won't be any war with Russian anymore, give up your hope!

If you think you can punish us just because we are more pro american than you

Just leave us alone!
If you think a German thinks every wake minute about how to "punish" Poles
you are dead wrong...

Apropos...I don't think Berlin would dislike it very much if Warschau gets warmer
with Moscow...it grates on the nerves to have such a barking poodle always on your side...

(But how will your master in Washington see that???)
Prince  15 | 590  
2 Jan 2009 /  #73
Just leave us alone!

:)

Just leave our Baltic Sea and your nuclear wastes there ... Sweden is against Nord Stream because they love nature ... without Sweden ... there will be no Nord Stream...

I always knew that Swedes are normal people ...
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11918  
2 Jan 2009 /  #74
Yeah well....stop being a troublemaker, behave and nobody will be cut off from anything and there won't be any problems!
Borrka  37 | 592  
2 Jan 2009 /  #75
???

BILD meint: Ohne Mampf kein Kampf (alter Soldatenspruch)!
Prince  15 | 590  
2 Jan 2009 /  #76
Yeah well....stop being a troublemaker, behave and nobody will be cut off from anything and there won't be any problems!

We all want to change model of the world so make changes possible ...
David_18  65 | 966  
2 Jan 2009 /  #77
Don't believe everything media says about Russian.

Russia had reasons to cut of Ukraines gas, same with Belarusia.

Russia had reasons to invade Georgia and The Chechen Republic.

The only reason Poland dont want Russia to have a pipeline that got direct acces to Germany, is because Poland would't benefit on the transit taxes.
Prince  15 | 590  
2 Jan 2009 /  #78
LOL. It is slavic weapon you have been hit. Durring cold war there was big group of western journalists and people believeing them that Soviet Union is right ... :) 5th column ... very useful.

...agents of influence...
Seanus  15 | 19666  
2 Jan 2009 /  #79
True, Russia is just being smart
David_18  65 | 966  
2 Jan 2009 /  #80
Seriously Rofl.

Ukraine got debts on over 2 bilj dollar to Russia for the gas.

Belarusia didn't agree to pay the same as the rest of Europe, they paid like 1/3 of the gas price same goes to Ukraine.

Georgia is discriminating russians and other people who are not "Georgians". Georgia was killing a lot of civilians with impunity by using rocket launcher and heavy artillery. During one night they have completely destroyed the capital of S Ossetia and killed around 2,000 out of less than 100,000 living in the region. Russia tried to stop the use of force by Georgia through UN but with no effect, to stop the fighting they have moved in with tanks. As of Russia had laid out their demands to Georgia, pull out all military forces in the region and sign a legal agreement not to invade S Ossetia in the future.

The Chechen Republic
The only reason Chechenya broke out from Russia was because of the greedy rich people who wanted the oil and gas for themselfs.
Prince  15 | 590  
2 Jan 2009 /  #81
The only reason Chechenya broke out from Russia was because of the greedy rich people who wanted the oil and gas for themselfs.

You see how does it work :)
David_18  65 | 966  
2 Jan 2009 /  #82
Well i meant the greedy Chechenyan Warlords, but W/E.
Prince  15 | 590  
2 Jan 2009 /  #83
sponsored by USA ;)
Sasha  2 | 1083  
3 Jan 2009 /  #84
Everybody knows that NATO doesn't want to invaid Russia. Russian paranoia is Russian problem.

Everybody in the mentioned context bears not the best tinge if you know what I'm talking about.
Initially it's not a paranoia at all. Just in general people (including yourself) have no idea about what's happening on military level. That's ok... those non-slavics

(I'd better specify they're non-slavic) think alike.

Now when oil prices go down ... maybe another lesson like in 90's will teach them something.

I hope so. Keep my fingers crossed...

Ukrianians are not Russians.

That's tricky bro... I bet if you meet a Russian-spoken on the street you won't be able to say for sure if he's Russian or Ukranian or smb else. The logic is usually simple: if one speaks Russian, behave badly, spit on the streets, drunk, love putin&KGB then he's Russian; elsewise he's not. That's the logic usually applied to identify us. Meanwhile being in the US about 1 year I've met 1000s of Russian-spoken however I could count Russians with the fingers of the only my hands.

Lets hope we are going to get more gas from Norway and green industry but now it seems that we don't have support in so called EU.

You're gonna sell your underwear if you want to buy gas from Norway.

BTW. Do you know this joke ?
What is the difference between Hitler and Putin ?
I mean their main works.
Mein Kampf und kein Mampf.

That's hilarious. :) Thanks.

The only reason Chechenya broke out from Russia was because of the greedy rich people who wanted the oil and gas for themselfs.

They strove for power as well.
celinski  31 | 1258  
3 Jan 2009 /  #85
A bit boot licking would work wonders here too...

Are you joking, Polish do not lick boots and as I see it Germany is doing this with Russia.

True, Russia is just being smart

What takes place after Germany buddies up on the pipeline? BB don't you see change must take place (maybe by getting rid of Putin) before Russia changes their thought process.

behave and nobody will be cut off from anything and there won't be any problems!

LOL, you are talking to humans not animals. Celibrial cortex makes Polish remember, are you sure you are not part Russian?
Seanus  15 | 19666  
3 Jan 2009 /  #86
Russia holds many of the key cards. Time will tell how many aces they have.

Putin is one of the smartest guys out there and Medvedev can be brought to heel by him.
ConstantineK  26 | 1298  
3 Jan 2009 /  #87
Poland never have licked boots? Ha-ha, that is why she was always have kicked by this boot!
Seanus  15 | 19666  
3 Jan 2009 /  #88
What do you think of Putin and Medvedev, CK? Are you happy with Medvedev?
ConstantineK  26 | 1298  
3 Jan 2009 /  #89
Sure! Because he is Putin's companion in arms. Though Putin is more witty.
Seanus  15 | 19666  
3 Jan 2009 /  #90
Much more witty. If you were in power in Russia, CK, what would you do about the current crisis in the ME?

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