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What did Poland get out of the wars and struggles for others?


Harry  
28 Nov 2008 /  #61
Or is it that you chose to mention only those parts which fit your homophobic agenda?

Now I’m homophobic? That’ll be news to the people at KPH (I do volunteer work for them).

WW2 started on Sept 1 1939, ended on May 8/9 1945.

Liar! WWII finished on Sept 2 1945

That's 2076 (2077) days. 4 years is 2191 or 2192 days (depending on how leap years work out). Ergo, Brits DID NOT fight for 6 years in WW2.

Liar! Get you fingers and count: Sept 1 1939 to Sept 2 1945 is six years and one day. Moron.

Harry:
Here’s the small problem you: I’m not Jewish. And before you ask, neither were either of my parents.

's okay, I understand.

I understand that you are a bigot who decided what religion somebody must be on the basis of their opinions.

You are really a sick bastard.

Was it my ancestors or yours who gave returning Polish Jews warm welcomes like the one they got in Kielce in 1947?

Harry:
The UK fought a war which it didn’t need to fight, for six long years

That's obviously a lie. Neither these alleged six years are any longer than other six year periods, nor did Brits fight for six years in WW2.

Firstly, it is six years (see above about counting on your fingers). And secondly, how many long weeks did the Polish army fight?

When you refresh your history you will see that 1943 event was called Warsaw Ghetto Uprising and it was Jewish insurgency.

No sh!t! Really? Was it? Thanks for telling me that.

Nice to know that you consider we can't call the uprising which took place in the Warsaw ghetto a "Warsaw uprising" because it was Jews who decided it's better to face certain death with honour than almost certain death with cowardice.

Harry:
Although we’d better not include the 1943 Warsaw uprising

There is no such thing in history of WW2 as 1943 Warsaw uprising.

**** off bigot.
Kilkline  1 | 682  
28 Nov 2008 /  #62
So can any British national tell me why the British govermnent has 'frozen' the documents pertaining to Sikorski's death for 50 years? If it was just an accident, what do they have to lose? I thought the EU strived for transparency? I guess not.

The British government has never strived for transparency on any matters that pertain to state security. The term 'state security' is also used extremely widely to include how many cups of tea a department drinks. There may be something sinister in Sikorski's death, maybe not.

Do these come even close to the human sacrifice of Polish troops whose struggle to defend Britain,

Poles got the ****** end of the stick but they were no more fighting to defend Britain than the British were fighting to defend Poland. Each was fighting for their own country. Neither owes a debt to the other.
Matyjasz  2 | 1543  
28 Nov 2008 /  #63
Poland: second to fight and first surrender.

lol It just can't get any more funny than this. ;)

As for Czechs, they are a very pragmatic nation. Thanks to this pragmatism if I would have to choose in which city I would like to live these days, Prague or Warsaw, I would definately choose Prague, so their political choices couldn't have been that bad.

Poles got the ****** end of the stick but they were no more fighting to defend Britain than the British were fighting to defend Poland. Each was fighting for their own country. Neither owes a debt to the other.

Here here!
Prince  15 | 590  
28 Nov 2008 /  #64
Was it my ancestors or yours who gave returning Polish Jews warm welcomes

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edict_of_Expulsion

In 1290, King Edward I issued an edict expelling all Jews from England. Lasting for the rest of the Middle Ages, it would be over 350 years until it was formally overturned in 1656. The edict was not an isolated incident but the culmination of over 200 years of conflict on the matters of usury.

story told of a captain taking a ship full of Jews to the Thames while the tide was going out and convincing them to go out for a walk with him. He then lost them and made it back to his ship before the tide came back in, leaving them all to drown. Other stories exist of Jews being robbed or killed

where they emigrated (Poland) ?

Czech rep. isn't Poland that is why they had much different possible political choices. Htiler had much different plans according to Poland.
Kilkline  1 | 682  
28 Nov 2008 /  #65
Here here!

You the man Matyjasz!*

(*though I reserve the right to withdraw this comment should you disagree with me at anytime in the future.)
Crow  154 | 9297  
28 Nov 2008 /  #66
What did Poland get out of the wars and struggles for others?

let`s reverse question... What Serbians get out of the wars and struggles for Poles?

Tusk gave us simple answer... Serbians got big sh** in form of Polish Kosovo recognition.
z_darius  14 | 3960  
28 Nov 2008 /  #67
Liar! WWII finished on Sept 2 1945

That was British war in their colonies. They shouldn't have been there in the first place.

I understand that you are a bigot who decided what religion somebody must be on the basis of their opinions.

So all Jews are religious?

Was it my ancestors or yours who gave returning Polish Jews warm welcomes like the one they got in Kielce in 1947?

Returning Jews? Returning from where? I thought they were all killed.

And secondly, how many long weeks did the Polish army fight?

Polish armies fought every single day between Sept 1 1939 and May 9 1945. Some in the Eastern front, some in the Western one and some within Poland.

**** off bigot.

Is that the best you can do when you are proven wrong?

Neither owes a debt to the other.

Cool with me but not with the polonophobic assshole called Harry.
Prince  15 | 590  
28 Nov 2008 /  #68
Polish nation was 3rd on Hitlers list with people to exterminate - all allies were good and yes Polish soldiers were fighting on all fronts for Poland.

On East:



On West:



On South:

Adam Aston - Czerwone maki na Monte Cassino, 1944



In secret services:
Enigma Codebreakers


Crow  154 | 9297  
28 Nov 2008 /  #69
What did Poland get out of the wars and struggles for others?

i will tell you what Poland got... Poland got order to screw Serbians, in order to prove her fully NATO membership... later, Polish `freinds` would give to Poles Obama of Eurabia... then, giving would be complete
Grzegorz_  51 | 6138  
28 Nov 2008 /  #70
What's your point Harry ? First of all there wasn't any uprising in Poland in 1943.
Piorun  - | 655  
28 Nov 2008 /  #71
No sh!t! Really?

Once again you are lying. Warsaw uprising implies citywide uprising which in fact Jewish insurgency in Warsaw Ghetto was not, it was confined to the Jewish Ghetto within the city of Warsaw. There's a reason why historians named those events as they did. You name it like this so the ignorant westerners will think it’s the same event in History.

Nice to know that you consider we can't call the uprising which took place in the Warsaw ghetto a "Warsaw uprising" because it was Jews who decided it's better to face certain death with honour than almost certain death with cowardice.

The problem with twisting words around is that it changes the meaning of, same goes for the concentration camps calling them Polish, another Jewish lie. It is your intention to change the truth because of your Jewish bigotry toward Poles while portraying yourself as an innocent victim.

Was it my ancestors or yours who gave returning Polish Jews warm welcomes like the one they got in Kielce in 1947?

While you at it why don’t you remind everyone of the reception given to the returning Poles by your ancestors Jewish Communists, especially to the one’s returning from the western front or those fighting in Poland itself during Nazi occupation. The witch trials that the Communist Jews have organized against those that fought for your freedom but were Polish, and the Jewish NKWD members who were the executioners in Katyn forest and later on in Poland after the war who executed AK members. Nice reception wouldn’t you say?

You live in the city of Warsaw yet you don’t know anything about its history. You’re just someone with a chip on his shoulder who is either ignorant of facts, or deliberately twisting the truth. The amazing part is that you believe your own propaganda no matter how outrages it might be.
Crow  154 | 9297  
28 Nov 2008 /  #72
Polish `freinds`

technical error

i wanted to say Polish friends but, now when i think it could be also said Polish fiends
Filios1  8 | 1336  
28 Nov 2008 /  #73
Harry

I think we should just leave this demented man alone with his thoughts.
He is blinded by his utter hatred for Poles and cannot think clearly.
Bzibzioh  
28 Nov 2008 /  #74
The UK fought a war which it didn’t need to fight, for six long years, to defend Polish independence. Not that Poles ever have even a single word of thanks for that. Only lies and complaints. With hindsight, the UK should probably have been like Sweden and Switzerland. Hitler had no quarrel with the English.

Yeah, those selfless Brits just couldn’t wait to run to Poland's help in September '39. But we, ungrateful Poles, never thank them enough. And of course Britain never needed to fight Nazis for any other reason than to defend Polish independence. For London was never bombed. British convoys never attacked by U-boots. That’s all Polish lies. And don’t forget that solving Enigma thing: totally British.

You are just grotesque. Not worth my time.
Seanus  15 | 19666  
28 Nov 2008 /  #75
Harry, that was gutrot, sorry. Hitler would have taken you guys out at the drop of a hat.

As for the Enigma thing, you can thank Scotland for inventing the radar.
VaFunkoolo  6 | 654  
28 Nov 2008 /  #76
At times it's pretty easy to see why Poles are universally loathed and so frequently referred to as dumb polaks
Lir  
29 Nov 2008 /  #77
Polish people aren't universally loathed.
miranda  
29 Nov 2008 /  #78
At times it's pretty easy to see why Poles are universally loathed and so frequently referred to as dumb polaks

it is a personal opinion, which you seem to recycle over and over on PF. what it the point and we have got your message.

Use you energy wisely.
VaFunkoolo  6 | 654  
29 Nov 2008 /  #79
Some people need to be told the same thing again and again and again, and even then it doesnt always sink in
miranda  
29 Nov 2008 /  #80
fair enough, but with your intelligence and wordliness, one would expect you to contribute in a more positive way. Well, the one is me, because nobody else seem to be bothered;)
z_darius  14 | 3960  
29 Nov 2008 /  #81
At times it's pretty easy to see why Poles are universally loathed

Is that why in India Britons and Americans targeted?
telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/3529123/Bombay-attacks-Britons-and-Americans-targeted.html

Lookie, no mention of Poles.

How about these:

2000 1 June: Bomb explodes on Hammersmith Bridge
2000 20 September: RPG attack SIS Building
2001 4 March: A car bomb explodes outside the BBC's main news centre in London. One London Underground worker suffered deep cuts to his eye from flying glass and some damage was caused to the front of the building.

2001 16 April: Hendon post office bombed
2001 6 May: The Real IRA detonate a bomb in a London postal sorting office. One person was injured.
2001, 3 August: The last Real IRA bomb, as of June 2008, in Britain explodes in Ealing, West London, injuring seven people.
2001, 4 November: Car bomb explodes in Birmingham
2005 7 July: The 7 July 2005 London bombings conducted by four separate suicide bombers, killing 56 people and injuring 700.
2007 January - February: The 2007 United Kingdom letter bombs
2007 30 June: 2007 Glasgow International Airport attack
2008 22 May: 22 May 2008 Exeter Bombing

Do you really think that Poles are so universally hated that the British are attacked instead? Oh, and that is only a partial list of planned and/or executed attacks against the British, and only since the year 2000.

Still, I'm a nice guy so I'll give you a piece of advice. When traveling around the world, for your own safety, try to use a passport other than British or American. Polish one will be fine. They hate us but they want to kill you. And this also puts the whole "dumb polack" thing in perspective.
polishcanuck  7 | 461  
29 Nov 2008 /  #82
I agree with you, kraut. It's actually the germans that are ubersaints, especially during 1939-1945 when they tried to exterminate the jews and work others to death (ask your father/grandfather, they'll fill you in with some details).
VaFunkoolo  6 | 654  
29 Nov 2008 /  #83
Darius darius darius, please

Whilst the British might be attacked for their country's politics, with the Polish its something different, you are disliked for who you are as a people. Naturally I would like to say it's nothing personal, but by all accounts, it is...
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11803  
29 Nov 2008 /  #84
Yes, I would say Germans have a better, more realistic view about the heights and depths of our past....you Poles (at least some of you) seem to have lost contact with reality somehow! :)
z_darius  14 | 3960  
29 Nov 2008 /  #85
Darius darius darius, please

Funky funky, please.
Poles can't help who they are. Brits had choices and they fvcked up, and so they are now hated and bombed. Now, how smart is that?

Yes, I would say Germans have a better, more realistic view about the heights and depths of our past

That's great, but it's a pity that Germans had been completely unrealistic about the future.

1000-Jahre-Reich :)))
C'mon, how dumb and more unrealistic can a nation be?
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11803  
29 Nov 2008 /  #86
1000-Jahre-Reich :)))

Well...come on....what would that had been for an election campaign:
"10 years...okay 12 max"....just has not the right ring to it! :)
z_darius  14 | 3960  
29 Nov 2008 /  #87
"10 years...okay 12 max"....just has not the right ring to it! :)

True. A good election slogan.

Dang, if I only could run in German elections. I'd just throw in a few more zeros and victory would be a sure thing ;)
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11803  
29 Nov 2008 /  #88
I'd just throw in a few more zeros and victory would be a sure thing ;)

Nah...we learned our lesson!
Seanus  15 | 19666  
29 Nov 2008 /  #89
It's hear hear Matyjasz, not here here, LOL
dtaylor  9 | 823  
29 Nov 2008 /  #90
I must admit, i thought it was here here too, meaning " i agree over here " learn something everyday:)

Hows you Mr one of a flock?

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