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Poland..wake up to a multicultural world


Sokrates 8 | 3,346  
13 Feb 2009 /  #121
flavour

Wait... so you're for massive immigration because it feels cool ?

yes my friend, and not every pole either...

There's no comparison, face it we're the same cultural circle as Brits, Germans and so on, the differences are superficial, not so with blacks and muslims.

Also you didnt respond, why are the slums almost exclusively black and muslim ?

Poland a relatively poor country by british standards has no slums, of course you can get mugged like everywhere else but we do not have neighbourhoods where you're going to get mugged because you're white.

In UK before i learned what black slums really are i got mugged once, threatened twice, some dipshit signed my car with his keys, ditch political correctness people you're hurting yourself with it.
IronsE11 2 | 442  
13 Feb 2009 /  #122
My god you are stupid.

For the record, I have got more in common with the Pakistanis at my local cricket club than I will ever have with you.
Misty 5 | 144  
13 Feb 2009 /  #123
There is a difference between what BubbaWoo is talking about "multiculturalism" and "mass immigration".

Being multicultural is having people from all over living and working together and cultures mixing which is a good thing.

However, Sokrates, you're going on about mass immigration which is when countries don't control who enter the country. There is a problem with that in the UK but it's not to do with colour, it's to do with amount.

I should add - I'm all for multiculturalism so it stands to reason there must be migration to bring that into effect.
Sokrates 8 | 3,346  
13 Feb 2009 /  #124
However, Sokrates, you're going on about mass immigration which is when countries don't control who enter the country. There is a problem with that in the UK but it's not to do with colour, it's to do with amount.

Correct! Bravo! You're probably the first who get the point i'm making. I'm all for the odd black or muslim but i'm firmly against what UK or Germany is doing, Poland if it opens up should first and foremost open to the east instead of taking in hostile and unproductive minorities.

Just because someone points at some minority saying "there guys are messed up" doesnt make him a racist by default, sometimes a minirity group IS backwards.
lukimp80 1 | 74  
13 Feb 2009 /  #125
Sokrates: multiracial or cultural society sucks anal orifice.

you dont have the vaguest idea what multicultural society can truely give you

and this is you loss

i pity you for your ignorance

Allow me to tell you what a multicultural society did for me.

#1 I was raised in a Polish, German, Italian, and Bohemian neighborhood.
#2 It all started after WW2. The minorities started what is known as block busting. Some liberal white crook came in and offered ridiculous prices for real estate. Some people sold.

#3 It was not long that they placed a black family in the homes.
The neighborhoods panicked. They started to sell their homes for a fraction of their worth. The same crook bought them up.
#4 It was not long before the neighborhood disintegrated.. People fled in panic
#5 The schools that we attended were no longer safe. There were many cases of shootings and stabbings
# 6 Drugs became common place. Each corner was occupied by junkies and drunks. No body worked.
#7 After the flight of the whites, the neighborhood turned into a ghetto.
It goes much further than that. But whats the use.. You people will have to learn for yourselves. It just gets better.
Misty 5 | 144  
13 Feb 2009 /  #126
Correct! Bravo! You're probably the first who get the point i'm making. I'm all for the odd black or muslim but i'm firmly against what UK or Germany is doing, Poland if it opens up should first and foremost open to the east instead of taking in hostile and unproductive minorities.

Not really. A country should accept people who are suitable to be in the country regardless of what colour they are.
Sokrates 8 | 3,346  
13 Feb 2009 /  #127
However people of certain color or religion quite often come from a certain cultural and civilization background, it so happens that the cultural background of most muslims and blacks could as well be a pit full of dung, these cultures are inferior, hostile and unable to acclimatize themselves to the realities of the modern western society hence the slums and aggressive Islam preachers.

Also one more thing, i just found out that St. Georges day parade in London got cancelled because of 'racists' i imagine thats a pretty important day for Brits and they just lost it because of this "flavor" you keep talking about.

Well here in our poor backwards Poland we get to enjoy our full national heritage and all celebrations without the need to be politically correct towards those wonderfull colorful immigrants.
Misty 5 | 144  
13 Feb 2009 /  #128
Well, there are slums in UK history too. Poverty often causes that more than anything else. You're saying that anyone who is not white cannot be civilised but I have met some pretty uncivilised white people. We could go on like this ALL day but we won't. ;)

Also one more thing, i just found out that St. Georges day parade in London got cancelled because of 'racists' i imagine thats a pretty important day for Brits and they just lost it because of this "flavor" you keep talking about.

Yes there is a problem in the UK that it's gone "Politically Correct" crazy. That's politicians making decisions based on...what? They think people will be offended.
lesser 4 | 1,311  
13 Feb 2009 /  #129
Yes there is a problem in the UK that it's gone "Politically Correct" crazy

I would even say that this is borderline fascism. Christian foster mother struck off after Muslim girl converts.
Sokrates 8 | 3,346  
13 Feb 2009 /  #130
Well, there are slums in UK history too. Poverty often causes that more than anything else. You're saying that anyone who is not white cannot be civilised but I have met some pretty uncivilised white people. We could go on like this ALL day but we won't. ;)

No i'm saying that muslim and black minorites do not want to be civilized, the blacks just leech of the social system while the muslims try to force their way of life and their values down your throats ( i assume you're british ) while reaping all the benefits of the western civilization.

Notice that nowhere do i state imply or believe that they're some sort of inferiors as human beings, they are however inferiors as society members, social groups and minority groups.

Yes there is a problem in the UK that it's gone "Politically Correct" crazy. That's politicians making decisions based on...what? They think people will be offended.

The same problem exists in US and every other country that became multicultural, for a civilization to thrive there needs to be a dominant group that lays down and follows the rules and customs of said civilization ie white europeans.

Also Misty since we're at multiculturalism answer me why are there no slums in Poland ? There are poor neighbourhoods but there's no slums western style ? I'd like to believe that its because we're awesome and orderly people but the truth is its because we're all white and have a single civilization background, western one.
lukimp80 1 | 74  
13 Feb 2009 /  #131
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Today, 18:48 #128

Well, there are slums in UK history too. Poverty often causes that more than anything else.

Misty. If these undesirables would get a job, there would be no poverty. There are multitudes of black people in the Us that went to school and worked themselves out of poverty. They discarded their African culture,and adopted to live in the western culture. These are people that I look up to.. We have brilliant black people in America, and I look up to them. It is the trash that is giving them a bad name..

Up to ten kids with no father, living off of the dole.. Yeah sure.. You can have them
LoveHateU - | 23  
13 Feb 2009 /  #132
Here in Poland we do have crime and poor neighbourhoods but we dont have slums in the traditional sense

Are U polish and are u unaware of the biggest slum in the EU...the one located in Warsaw so-called Praga, then U must be a racial "Whooo".
dtaylor 9 | 823  
13 Feb 2009 /  #133
Um, i think you will find that Glasgow has the biggest unemployment rate in the EU.

Does anyone know the difference between poverty stricken area, and slum??
lukimp80 1 | 74  
13 Feb 2009 /  #134
Does anyone know the difference between poverty stricken area, and slum??

A poverty stricken area is a place that was devastated by an economic slump. These people will work themselves out of it.

A slum is a place where no one gives a damn. They are parasites living off of the labor of other people. They are the lowest form of life in existence. TRASH
Wroclaw 44 | 5,387  
13 Feb 2009 /  #135
Does anyone know the difference between poverty stricken area, and slum??

A slum is a place where no one gives a damn. They are parasites living off of the labor of other people. They are the lowest form of life in existence. TRASH

It seems that the answer to the question is: no
lukimp80 1 | 74  
13 Feb 2009 /  #136
I thought that I made myself clear. Could it be that we interpret it differently?
Wroclaw 44 | 5,387  
13 Feb 2009 /  #137
A slum is a building not a person.

For example: East End Poles lived in slums. Do you want me to say they were scum too ?
No. They were hard working people, who had to put up with atrocious conditions.
LoveHateU - | 23  
13 Feb 2009 /  #138
There is no clear difference between a slum and a poverty stricken area. One is the by-product of the other. Slums are as a result of poverty... or a total neglect by the govt. So praga in warsaw is a slum and a poverty stricken area. The crime rate there is high. This is the case of slums in the US, Brazil, Africa, Russia..etc. The govt simply neglected them, giving them little or no social amenities.

You just cant say a race is crime loving. No one loves to die(except for religious purposes). If U provide good schools, good social amenities and security, people will live normal lives. Build good homes in praga, warsaw and U will see people adjusting to a new life. Leave them to bad amenities and they would be desperate ..this is where crime comes in. Blacks have been underprivileged around the world..ever since they were taken as slaves. Africa has been ripped off its wealth..its oil, its gold and diamonds by almost every western country and its still been ripped. Do U expect them not to be desperate? I could explain in details if u insist.
lukimp80 1 | 74  
13 Feb 2009 /  #139
Today, 20:51 #137

A slum is a building not a person.

This might be true in Europe.. In America we call them slum neighborhoods or Ghetto's.

Same as Coloureds instead of coloreds.
Tyre instead of tire.
Honour instead of honor.

Seems like we have a language barrier.. But then again We Yanks are a bunch of mongrels. But a sturdy breed, not interbred
dtaylor 9 | 823  
13 Feb 2009 /  #140
There is no clear difference between a slum and a poverty stricken area.

So praga in warsaw is a slum and a poverty stricken area.

i am beginning to think you're a bit stupid...

Blacks have been underprivileged around the world..ever since they were taken as slaves. Africa has been ripped off its wealth..its oil, its gold and diamonds by almost every western country and its still been ripped. Do U expect them not to be desperate? I could explain in details if u insist.

You could argue that Africa has fallen apart since the "so called slave drivers" left. Zimbabwe?
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
14 Feb 2009 /  #141
Wait... so you're for massive immigration because it feels cool ?

wait... have we just jumped from multi-cultural society to massive immigration...?

face it we're the same cultural circle as Brits,

what on earth are you saying...?

are you actually suggesting as a brit i have more culturally in common with some bumpkin pole who grew up in an underdeveloped society than the british black kids i grew up with on the streets of south london...?

be real

why are the slums almost exclusively black and muslim ?

theyre not

if you had any idea what you were talking about you would realise this

In UK before i learned what black slums really are i got mugged once, threatened twice, some dipshit signed my car with his keys,

this is probably because you are a cocky little pole with an over-inflated sense of self-worth.

if you go in to a predominantly black neighbourhood with the attitude you display on the forum then it is hardly suprising you got your arse whomped

wake up and smell the coffee

the problem is you
Sokrates 8 | 3,346  
14 Feb 2009 /  #142
There is no clear difference between a slum and a poverty stricken area.

Used to be no difference, the colored slums became crime infested hellholes however while for example poor districts of our cities are not.

or a total neglect by the govt

What ?! Have you any idea how much american and british governments pour into these s--holes ? How do you think these people can even afford to have a thousand kids per family ?

The support is there, its the minorities that are unwilling to use it effectively, they prefer to get drunk and make another kid or rob a white bystander blind rather than give their kids some proper education or buy a condom so they wouldnt bring yet ANOTHER child into their s--hole world.

The govt simply neglected them, giving them little or no social amenities.

Bullshit! They get everything the whites get in the same share, its not like government goes "we have you bloody niggers so you wont get the same access to health care".

Blacks and muslims have the same access to social privileges as native whites, they just dont utilize them instead squandering everything the western society can offer them, its like a gift of king Midas, except everything they touch turns to shit.

You just cant say a race is crime loving.

Yes i can, i also have proof of that so you cant call me a racist, take a look at black Africa which absolutely fell apart once the whites left, the only country which is relatively well of is the Republic of South Africa where a ruling class includes a significant amount of ? Whites !

Build good homes in praga, warsaw and U will see people adjusting to a new life.

Why do you keep babbling about Praga ? Praga while poorer is nowhere near a London slum, i can walk there all day long without fear of being mugged.

Praga: bank-zdjec.com/foto_galeria/1508_HPIM7236_1_b.jpg

Tell me that looks like some black and muslim slums in London ?

Blacks have been underprivileged around the world..ever since they were taken as slaves. Africa has been ripped off its wealth..its oil, its gold and diamonds by almost every western country and its still been ripped. Do U expect them not to be desperate? I could explain in details if u insist.

The problem is that blacks have been given free reign in Africa which had working rail, economy and society and as soon as whites left it to blacks it all broke down, blacks were given the same priveliges in UK, US and they still manage to be 80% of the dregs of society in both countries, US is little better off but thats because blacks there didnt have much cultural heritage so they took on the western one.

wait... have we just jumped from multi-cultural society to massive immigration...?

Its one and the same, i have a black optician, an asian cooks for me in the restaurant and my friends wife is half vietnameese, thats 3 people i know that are foreign or semi-foreign out of more than a hundred friends i have, thats not a multicultural society.

In order to get multicultural you need to less significant numbers in, i'm against that unless they're white europeans or colored immigrants who have been in Europe at least 4-5 generations since i dont want to become a race-riot ridden hole like UK.

are you actually suggesting as a brit i have more culturally in common with some bumpkin pole who grew up in an underdeveloped society than the british black kids i grew up with on the streets of south london...?

More or less, also because it is our economy thats underdeveloped, our society is every bit as developed as any other western one given that we have developed at the same time, in the same region and under the same cultural influence.

Of course this does not apply if the black kids are fully assimilated but few of them are, even those living for a few generations.

Fucktwats like you will always look down on everyone none british but thats your problem and issue.

if you go in to a predominantly black neighbourhood with the attitude you display on the forum then it is hardly surprising you got your arse whomped

So parking a car before a home where a guy we have been interested in employing and i actually went out of my way to go and recruit him counts as offensive ?

the problem is you

The problem is you and idiots like you who ruin their own great old european countries with fukwad liberal policies that destroy your national integrity, i sincerely hope Poland never goes the way of completely open borders, we should be picky as to who we let in, few blacks and NO muslims, ever.

White Europeans i'm fine with, same cultural circle, they're going to assimilate just fine.
Wroclaw Boy  
14 Feb 2009 /  #143
Sokrates is looking at this whole muticultural situation as a typical racist Pole BW is behaving typically British. At the end of the day segregation has to end the world is too smaller place to avoid it. As a Brit and having had many coloured friends over the years i have no problem with British multiculturism, im actually proud of it.

In my experience growing up within a stones throw from predominantly coloured areas it was the whites I had the most problems with. On my bus route to school i was probably one of tow white guys amongst 20 or so Indians, Pakistanis or Blacks. If youre pleasent to them and acceptable of them youve got a friend for life. fact.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
14 Feb 2009 /  #144
True.

disprove it

The number of racist attacks in Poland is much lower than average in Europe.
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
14 Feb 2009 /  #145
whatup ET

'giggled my mutha fukin arse off'

Not at all, if Poland is racist than the statistics and press releases should back it up right ?

you might perhaps think so

except poland is a homogenously white country where many foreigners are made to feel unwelcome - especially those with non-white skin

so its hardly suprising that the number of racist attacks are suposedly low, because many foreigners dont want to go there

so, given your capabilities of processing logical thought lets change the bounderies -

poland is a racist country with an unusually large number of idiots

how does that sit mr shtink?
Sokrates 8 | 3,346  
14 Feb 2009 /  #146
except poland is a homogenously white country where many foreigners are made to feel unwelcome - especially those with non-white skin

Could you forward a press release that describes how we make them unwelcome ? I know a few and they never complained about our hospitality.

so its hardly suprising that the number of racist attacks are suposedly low, because many foreigners dont want to go there

Of course it could be just that we're not racist and do not assault minorites and you're twisting that fact to fit your prejudiced view of Poland:)

poland is a racist country with an unusually large number of idiots

Ah yes that would be my cue to pm a moderator, i believe in free speech to a great degree but if you're an anti-polish racist you clearly have no place here.

how does that sit mr shtink?

It doesnt, its lying dead together with the rest of your prejudiced anti-polish logic.
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
14 Feb 2009 /  #147
Could you forward a press release that describes how we make them unwelcome ?

oh tiddly, what sort of person looks to the press for their source of credibility?

Of course it could be just that we're not racist and do not assault minorites and you're twisting that fact to fit your prejudiced view of Poland:)

it could be

but we both know thats not the case

Ah yes that would be my cue to pm a moderator

really?

so youre quite happy being called a kunt?

how about a polish kunt?
Sokrates 8 | 3,346  
14 Feb 2009 /  #148
but we both know thats not the case

No we dont, you made a claim based purely on anti polish prejudice i countered it with the lack of media coverage and existing statistics.

wsws.org/articles/2000/feb2000/raci-f23.shtml
Read up and tell me where does Poland fit in racist Europe ? We're one of the more tolerant countries even if we're victims of prejudiced bastards like you.

oh tiddly, what sort of person looks to the press for their source of credibility?

Most, unless you're implying that all european newspapers are purposefully concealing polish racism and you're right ?:)
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
14 Feb 2009 /  #149
We're one of the more tolerant countries even if we're victims of prejudiced bastards

you poles, youre just so redicularse

a self-confessed extreme right wing prejudiced bastard complaining about being a victim of prejudiced bastards

youre too funny
Sokrates 8 | 3,346  
14 Feb 2009 /  #150
you poles, youre just so redicularse

There's no "us Poles" there's just me here.

a self-confessed extreme right wing prejudiced bastard complaining about being a victim of prejudiced bastards

Correct, as said i represent myself not the polish nation, i am a right winger but i also consider myself inteligent and as such i have reservations rather than prejudice ( unlike you ) and i see value in diversity however i believe that risks outweight the pros.

youre too funny

And you're a primitive pathetic little racist and not funny at all :)

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