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EU a beacon of light for the World to follow


Wroclaw Boy  
20 Mar 2008 /  #1
I believe the EU to be a beacon of light for the rest of the World to respect and follow.

Who would have thought 50 years ago that someone would have predicted something like this:

"Lets take a group of countries who's favourite pastimes was killing eachother at the most efficient levels over the past few hundred years, put them together and call it the European Union"

I must admit I am proud to drive across the EU from England to Poland, from Spain to Germany and be one big HAPPY family!!!! OK its not perfect but it works and united we are strong. The EU is a rouring success demonstrating that foreign countries of different opinions can live along side one another in harmony and beneficially for the greater good.

All countries that have EU status have flourished given time and Poland will (if not already) flourish too.

Long live EU, and who knows in the future maybe WU.
SeanBM 35 | 5,808  
20 Mar 2008 /  #2
I agree with you. I am sure there will be an onslaught of negitive comments but I am sure you expected it Wroclaw Boy.India and China are set to be world powers and if Europe do not come together we will fall throught the cracks. And of course we are not one big happy family but we are not killing each other and have chosen co-operation instead.

I am from Ireland, what did the E.U. ever do for Ireland? (Life of Brian)
MareGaea 29 | 2,752  
20 Mar 2008 /  #3
what did the E.U. ever do for Ireland

Pull them out of the retardation Eamonn de Valera had put them in?

M-G
Wroclaw 44 | 5,387  
20 Mar 2008 /  #4
Brian

Bwian aye !

I agree with both Wroclaw Boy and SeanBM
SeanBM 35 | 5,808  
20 Mar 2008 /  #5
Pull them out of the retardation Eamonn de Valera had put them in?

What are you talking about?
MareGaea 29 | 2,752  
20 Mar 2008 /  #6
Ireland was considered the poorest state of Western Europe until 1973, when they joined the EU. This was mainly due to deValera's policy of putting the farmer's family as ideal for Irish society and refusing to modernize. It was thanks to the EU that they managed to catch up with the rest of Western Europe.

M-G
OP Wroclaw Boy  
20 Mar 2008 /  #7
I am from Ireland, what did the E.U. ever do for Ireland? (Life of Brian)

I did'nt reply to that as I was assumin SeanBM new that, someone had to take the bait though.

W-B (M-G is to honest and of course smart - not)
SeanBM 35 | 5,808  
20 Mar 2008 /  #8
I see what you mean.

M-G

The EU has used Ireland as their golden boy (rightfully so), like Tusk saying Poland will be the next Ireland.
OP Wroclaw Boy  
20 Mar 2008 /  #9
The EU has used Ireland as their golden boy

Ireland and Spain me's think, and they thrived NO/YES?
MareGaea 29 | 2,752  
20 Mar 2008 /  #10
Ireland (and currently the countries which joined in 2004 are doing the same) has thrived very well on their membership of the EU. It has received and still receives a lot. However, since they now are the richest country in the EU, they are bound to repay some of their debts back to the EU, I believe it was 2 or 3 billion, in 2012. Together with the declining economy and the huge failiure of the government to build a solid infrastructure and conglomerate of durable businesses (the only stable industry in this country is the building industry - the other business that thrives here is the CallCenter business; no business evaporates more quickly than this one) and thus implementing a stable basis for the country in order to survive the upcoming economic crisis, this country will go back to a near status as they were at, say 1985. This, PLUS the fact that the Celtic Tiger was basically nothing more than an arteficial stimulus to get companies over here by exempting corporations of corporate tax (the implementation of the Euro helped as well - this is actually the biggest handicap of the UK compared with Ireland) for the first 10, 15 years. You already can see that big corporations are leaving Ireland for India and Bulgaria, the latter being tipped as the new Ireland of the EU, while the former proved to be a mistake by the companies in their quest to save a buck: especially English customers are complaining and leaving companies because they don't want to speak to an Indian person. And guess which corporations? Xerox, IBM, Oracle; correct, the ones who have to start paying corporate tax this or next year. On the other hand, an acqaintance of mine once build a CallCenter for a Canadian company with solely NorthAmerican and a handful of UK customers. The UK customers were the reason the just HAD to have HQ in Dublin. See what I mean? The future basically lies in Bulgaria or China. But then again, the world will end in 2012, so why worry.

M-G
OP Wroclaw Boy  
20 Mar 2008 /  #11
Ireland (and currently the countries which joined in 2004 are doing the same) has thrived very well on their membership of the EU

Ireland joined the EU in 01/01/1973.

(the only stable industry in this country is the building industry - the other business that thrives here is the CallCenter business; no business evaporates more quickly than this one)

(W-B) Tough words

The future basically lies in Bulgaria

Right on, the guy who thinks he knows everything but is working for another company, ohh another key board warrior.

He has all the answers, a man of infinate knowledge. LMOA reminds me of ELI in the film "there will be blood".

"If I have a milk shake" and "you have a milk shake" and I have a straw here it is and my straw reaches AAACCCCRROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSS the room. I drink your milk shake.

M-G (I thought you were a **** went you first posted and my opinion has only galvanised in the meantime)
Uncle Bob 2 | 82  
20 Mar 2008 /  #12
I believe the EU to be a beacon of light for the rest of the World to respect and follow.

I believe this too.
MareGaea 29 | 2,752  
20 Mar 2008 /  #13
Ireland joined the EU in 01/01/1973.

I know that, pls read well.

You do not know anything about Irish society, I have been living here for 4 years and I actually have been following the developments.
I have been building and running CallCentres since the time you hadn't even heard of them; I don't pretend to know, I KNOW, that is a difference between you and me. It's my job to know. The company I work for does not have to move as they are already everywhere in the world :)

And now, pls don't mingle if you do not have anything special to add to the discussion. Thank you.

M-G
OP Wroclaw Boy  
20 Mar 2008 /  #14
I have been building and running CallCentres since the time you hadn't even heard of them;

Ahh you are the Devil then some little **** who everybody loves to hate. And of course over 50.

The company I work for does not have to move as they are already everywhere in the world :)

Well stick to your company and your work then dude, you stated that you won employee of the month recently. I find that extremely hard to believe considering that you joined this forum on 06/02/2008 and you already have 890 posts.

Later Devil!
MareGaea 29 | 2,752  
20 Mar 2008 /  #15
And of course over 50

Cute, I'm not over 50 and not even over 40.

Well stick to your company and your work then dude, you stated that you won employee of the month recently. I find that extremely hard to believe considering that you joined this forum on 06/02/2008 and you already have 890 posts.

I can type up to 200 wpm, I think quick and don't need much time for a reply. I like to multi task and can do loads of things at the same time. I'm simply good at what I do. I work about 10-11 hours a day; how about you? Is your unemployment benefit sufficient to afford a computer and Inet?

M-G
Uncle Bob 2 | 82  
20 Mar 2008 /  #16
I work about 10-11 hours a day

Why?
MareGaea 29 | 2,752  
20 Mar 2008 /  #17
Because I am responsible for about 75-100 ppl, sometimes more. Brings a lot of responsibilities and meetings and so on...

M-G (is going to work less in the near future though)
Uncle Bob 2 | 82  
20 Mar 2008 /  #18
Oh well. Whatever you need to do, I supose.
OP Wroclaw Boy  
20 Mar 2008 /  #19
I work about 10-11 hours a day; how about you?

200 WPM wow thats fast.
szarlotka 8 | 2,209  
20 Mar 2008 /  #20
Depends on how long the words are I suppose
OP Wroclaw Boy  
20 Mar 2008 /  #22
Depends on how long the words are I suppose

And what they contain, Devil, women etc.. Make believe....

W-B ( M-G is full of managerial shite)
MareGaea 29 | 2,752  
20 Mar 2008 /  #23
Make believe....

Isn't Wroclaw Boy swahili for Make Believe?

M-G
OP Wroclaw Boy  
20 Mar 2008 /  #24
This thread is for serious descussions regarding the above topic.
szarlotka 8 | 2,209  
20 Mar 2008 /  #25
M-G is full of managerial shite

Do I work for you? Just come out of a meeting that was full of it.
Oscypek - | 107  
20 Mar 2008 /  #26
Ireland was considered the poorest state of Western Europe until 1973, when they joined the EU. This was mainly due to deValera's policy of putting the farmer's family as ideal for Irish society and refusing to modernize. It was thanks to the EU that they managed to catch up with the rest of Western Europe.

This is a far oversimplified analysis. Ireland did get a lot of money from the EU, however, which helped it build up to its current level of success.
MareGaea 29 | 2,752  
20 Mar 2008 /  #27
The whole history is more complex, agreed, but one has to put it in simple terms here, and it IS due to the funding from the EU that Ireland got well again, on their own they would never have made it. They did good with it, agreed, but the explosion of economic activity is too much based on foreign companies - there is no structural middle class of industry or hardly noticeable.

This thread is for serious descussions regarding the above topic.

I'll just quote you:

And what they contain, Devil, women etc.. Make believe....

W-B ( M-G is full of managerial shite)

Ahh you are the Devil then some little **** who everybody loves to hate. And of course over 50.

M-G (I thought you were a **** went you first posted and my opinion has only galvanised in the meantime)

Now pls revert yourself to more suitable activities for you like throwing stones at your neighbour's kids or ask your mommy for a lollipop or go to the social welfare office to enquire about why they stopped your benefits.

M-G
OP Wroclaw Boy  
20 Mar 2008 /  #28
M-G' is spawned from a nation that rolled over when the Nazi's occupied central Europe. He now resides and relies on his income from a EU colony namely Ireland.

W-B (wonders what a traitor is doing thinking he has beef on a PF site)
MareGaea 29 | 2,752  
20 Mar 2008 /  #29
You are a very depraved creature.

I won't waste any more words on your non-remarks.

M-G
OP Wroclaw Boy  
20 Mar 2008 /  #30
You are a very depraved creature.

I repeat whats your relation to PF?? if you have business here "state it" if not take your 906 posts to some other EU post.

W-B (who is this Dutch twat,who thinks he owns the place?)

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