Poland..wake up to a multicultural world

Of course, not. Don't be e silly.

Nigerians don't waltz into offices, They gahu into them ;)
home.comcast.net/~dzinyaladzekpo/Kusum/Dance%20Agahu%20Lesson%20Plan.htm

Or march in with armed gunmen ;) ;) My friend needed an escort when he worked there a few years back. One of my students too when he was in Kenya I think.

This has been standard practice in the states for years. I as an employer, will not accept a mailed in application. I want to see who I employ. And I insist on a blood test from a laboratory of my choosing. Both white and black.. Yes Miranda, I do employ qualified blacks.

I was talking about recent progs - Merlin - I hadnt realised that Gwinevere was black or that Friar Tuck in Robin Hood's merry men was black, this is what I'm talking about! Black people playing roles of white people! Maybe we should re-cast Roots and make Kunta Kinte white?

Whay do you belive that multiculturalism and meritocracy are mutually exclusive terms?


LOLZ! Right on

Very good point, Bubbles. We are all just humans after all. I don't think there's a good comeback to that. I know how they value meritocracy in Japan and not multiculturalism but, in some societies, there is a symbiotic relationship. When you have a synallagmatic relationship like that, they cannot be mutually exclusive.

Thank you. But the point I'm making is that a meritocracy is a culture where everyone is rewarded based on their ability while multiculturism is smomething like an ideology where a community tries to accommodate as many different cultures as possible and assigns them the same value. They have very little in common - people seem to be confusing the terms a little.

Shelley, it's pure fiction!! How could you possibly care? Did you know that Merlin's dragon is played by John Hurt? I mean they could have at least got a real dragon to play the part!!

"Poland wake up to a multicultural world."
-No. I'll just wake up to my mono-cultural world.

I don't think Yoshi's post suggested the terms are mutually exclusive. In fact, his next sentence suggest the terms may overlap:

If a country accepts people withvaluable skills from around the world and treat them fairly, that will quite naturally improve the country.

Then again, we can't further liberalise the free movement of people and then moan about MC as people do.

You all speak like you dont have brains....how may years have you lived on this earth? and you just open you mouth without thinking that there is a trend and there were trends...Current trends that black people might be violent, but past trends that white people where murderers...ex...during the crusade, revolutionary, conquering times when white people thought it was right to kill people and take over their lands.....

current trends that slavery is wrong(less than 100 yrs, just about the time my grandfather was born), but previous trends that slavery was right and needed, therefore killing and taking blacks from their families.

current trends that killing a man and his family is murder, but previous trends that it was right and a way to punish a man for his wrong works...

there are countless....You just open your racist mouth and call blacks violent, killers, murderers, and all sorts of names...Think about 100 yrs ago, were u pointed fingers at calling you murderers for taking over 2,000,000 black people from africa to europe and americas, and killing over 200,000 who refused to obey your "then rules" which was right in your eyes...? were u?

how dare you????

Does anyone blame the advanced countries for the present nuclear problem...putting at risk billions of life, almost the entire planet?, but you are quick to blame a black man who kills someone.

Has anyone blamed the US government for the Hiroshima killings, wiping an entire city and its people and punished them?, but we are quick to blame a Muslim who carries grenades...

Has anyone blamed the colonial powers for blacks segregation less than 50 yrs ago, the age of my dad? instead we just accept it as part of life ....

we do not know what is right or wrong...we definitely do not know, bcos the right things now, will definitely and certainly be wrong in the next coming yrs....like everything i have just mentioned was right a couple of yrs ago and now seems like evil in our eyes.

Soooo shut up...word!

I go along with that to a certain extent. Barack Obama had better put his money where his mouth is. He has called for an abandoning of nukes but I seriously doubt that he'll take the lead in that process.

Regardless of the 'necessity' of the nuking of Hiroshima, it shouldn't have been done. To deny Iran when other dangerous countries like Pakistan have them is pure hypocrisy.

You see what i did there?
Although i do agree with some of your sentiments, don't play the "it's whitey's fault" card. Yeah European Colonists weren't exactly saints. Go build your time machine and deal with the perpetrators don't go slamming Poles. Or do you just lash out at anyone who you think might be white and figure everyone of "them" is to blame.

Ever notice the connection between the words "slave" and "slavic?" Think there might be one? Maybe a Polish forum isn't the best place to start leveling accusations.

Go reread post #658 on this thread and recognize the correct when it emigrates to your conscience mind.

Have a nice day.

Of a certainty...I do know the connection and I am glad that some of you guys here know. But what U know dont matter much when you cant defend it. I am aware that slavic is from the word "slaves"..and i know also that at a point in time, poles underwent terrible moments ... but why do we let people and media brainwash us with fallacies of hasty conclusion that a particular set of people or race is of a particular character.

I dont believe that this forum is filled up with mostly poles...but I believe that poles can, as a matter of slaves historical association, defend the fact that both blacks, Indians, Arabs and a some white race have been subjected to inhumane treatments, but I dont see that here...All i see is Poles and non-poles lash at other non-white races especially blacks and Arabs ...but cry for support from the slaves historical association when they need to remember their histories....

Yes, and I noticed the connection between "German" and "germs" and "Italy" with "italics" as well as "Greece" with "grease".

F4 sees what you did there. Well played sir, well played.
But...
slave (n.) Look up slave at Dictionary.com
c.1290, "person who is the property of another," from O.Fr. esclave, from M.L. Sclavus "slave" (cf. It. schiavo, Fr. esclave, Sp. esclavo), originally "Slav" (see Slav), so called because of the many Slavs sold into slavery by conquering peoples.

I believe in worldwide equality. Everyplace in the world should have the same infrastructure and access to basic fuels and food. Our global biosphere needs enhancement. If everyplace had jobs, foods and infrastructure, people wouldn't need to move to other places just because they are better. People would move because they are interested in the culture of another place and want to contribute and would try to add to the community.

So what we need to do is work toward global biospheric equality. This would solve a lot of problems in areas of immigration, economy and shortage of resources.

Another option would be specialties. Each place could specialize in a specific thing, like the US specializing in state of the art health care and putting all it's resources behind advancing in the area of wellness.

I am thinking about writing a global proposal for everyone to read and take into consideration.

I don't argue, Foreigner4, about the etymology.

In protoslavic the name for our group of people derives from "slovo" "word" or "slava"
"glory" ("Slava!" was the battlecry of slavic tribes).

The very first slavic tribes were called "Sleu" in proto Indo-European
language and it is thought that it meant "marsh", because our
ancestors lived in such areas (it was long, long time before Romans).

The entire idea that the words "Slav" and "Slavic" are by any means related to Latin
"slav" or English "slave" etc. etc. come from not so long ago - the II World War and
it was invented by nazi, German propaganda. I can see that nazi propaganda was
very succesful and some people still believe this crap.

But, perhaps German propagandists were right... perhaps we named our great warriors
and kings "slaves" ourselves (like Vladislav, Boleslav, Mieczysław etc. etc.)?

:-)

Perhaps our warriors battlecry, which was "Sława" (Slava) means "Come on Slaves!"?

:-)

I've read it too, Torq, but what it means is that name "Slav" comes much earlier from "slowo" or "slawa" and word "slave" appears only at the end of the 13th century as derivative from "Slav". So Slav doesn't come from "slave" , but vice versa.

Well, we better ask some historian to sort it out for us, I'm only a simple
electronics engineer :-)

All I'm saying is that trying to draw any conclusions from dodgy etymology
("dodgy etymology" - it even rhymes LOL), to prove that certain races
are better or worse than others, like nazi propagandists did, is pure bullsh*t.

Leave the Germans alone...german propagandists where a relative new and shortlived species!
Don't tell me the Slavs didn't know how to call themselves and why all the millennia before...

Not every wart on a slavic ass is a german one!


Using google and wikipedia is surely something a mechanic can do too, right?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavic_peoples#Origin_of_the_term_Slav

You are. ;)

You all keep biting about slaves or slavs....it dont matter now....what matters is whom you are associated with.... I choose not to call anyone racist names, I choose not to judge anyone based on colour...I choose not to hastily conclude that whites are "this" or Arabs or blacks are "that"... I choose to let everyone live equally,...I choose to make peace not war, ...I choose to live and let people live anywhere they want...

after all this world aint ours...if it were, u would have it forever...but we only have a minute part of it for less than 100 yrs (about a lifetime). Have you calculated how long your life would be compared to how long the earth has been and how long it would be...if u do, then you would realise that If the earth was 100 yrs old, then our lives would just last an "eye blink"... yeah...U have just blinked 5 times in the past 2 sec....i.e 5 generations.....

Lastly, I choose to defend the cause of those who have been and are minorities in a foreign land...like blacks in Europe, Whites in Zimbabwe, Arabs in a Jewish nation and Jews in an Arab world.

You must be a Slav! :)

The world belongs to us, the human species and to other species we share it with. It's time for everyone to do their part and start treating the world like an equal. In this new world "slaves" are obsolete. There are no longer any "slaves". We all work together for the good of mankind and we all get paid for the work that we do.

I checked that link, and look what I found:

"(...) whence the later designation "Wends" for Slavic tribes, and medieval legends purporting a connection between Poles and Vandals."

Connection between Poles and Vandals? WTF? That's scandalous!

I'm writing a letter of complaint to Wikipedia :-)

My prototype will serve as a model for future generations.

I plan to engage in exclusive, rigorous, research. The results which will amaze.

to the best of my knowledge, no one was intending to do that on this thread. correct me if i'm wrong.



but not call anyone racist:)
I don't get it, you say you defend anyone who is a minority but I'm wondering how you've come to such a position. Why should being a minority be virtuous, i'm convinced there's nothing inherently noble about it.