What needs to happen in the world so that Poland and Russia form alliance?

What needs to happen in the world so that Poland and Russia form alliance?

i need answer on this question, please

a miracle....

A war against the vodka.

German-led EU forms anti-Slavic alliance with America and Arab countries.

Me too. On another question...

but i still wait an inspiration


probably


he he

And with Martians.

yes, it could be direct reason but only in case that such anti-Slavic alliance openly declare its anti-Slavic orrientation. EU, NATO, Israel and Islamic league - axis already [among else] act as anti-Slavic conglomerate but, of course, they won`t admit it. They count on `divide and conquer` policy when deal with Slavs


are you Martian?

If Russians give Kaliningrad to Poles as a gesture :)

and half of their oil deposits

so, it is possible after all

well, USA isn`t what USA was (if it was ever). EU is something else what needed to be, obviously

and, Russia... Russia also evolve. Let us hope in positive dirrection

Poland. Poland also changing. Hm, let`s say,... let us give time to Poland

The same thing for Serbia, Bulgaria and Turkey to form an alliance.


That'd miff Germany (let's do it)!

I have asked the same question in one of the threads.
I have not enough data about Russia to answer that one.

If it comes to Poland, all it takes is real elite in charge and right offer.

LOL

Ruskies: pashol von, sobakhee

thanks for this well balanced and valuable comment

:)


brrrrrr. Nasty joke

brate, i think that understand problems between Poles and Russians. Russia failed on Slavic West, its a fact but, no chance that you can compare Russians and Turks. Its not serious

If Russia ever becomes a democratic country, stops using oil and gas as a blackmail tool, opens its archives, and ceases to revert to Soviet propaganda, cooperation might be possible.

Not in this generation.

sobakhee is plural form of a dog, thus you should have used "poshli" form of the verb. "Poshli von, sobakee" is correct.


Good point. I can't share other ones I'm afraid...
I also wonder what should Poland alter in her current state to make the alliance real?

At the moment, I think Russia would like for Poland to admit they started WWII and aknowledge our insane resistance to Russia's great efforts to bring peace and prosperity to all the workers in the world.

I don't think they can ever forgive us for stopping them in 1920 from flodding Europe. The rest of Europe is also indignant that we stopped the bolsheviks. It could have been such a worker's paradise. Pesky Poles.

Sacking Moscow in the 17th century was also naughty. No one has done it since, and they have tried.

The ball is in the Russians' court.

What will it take? Brave Serbian heroes coming to Poland and engaging in their traditional hobbies (genocide and ethnic cleansing) until there are no Poles in Poland and the country then being repopulated by Russians.

I wouldn't take those sentiments of Russian government as somewhat of serious accusations which need admitting. This is more about self-defense and bury the issue of for instance Katyn under the ash of demagogy. "The best defense is an offense.


And I think you shouldn't have put it as "they" as if bolsheviks were/are the most accurate reflection of Russian society.


Isn't your father Serbian by any (mis)chance?


We can't even repopulate our own land.

good point. i think that they trying


here, you must understand them. Anybody using anything available when is under pressure. Currently, Russia is under NATO/EU pressure. That way, Russian respond to NATO/EU affecting Polish-Russian relations


i absolutely agree


also, very good point


who knows. We shall see


maybe, among else, to go out of NATO and to declare neutrality on current military alliances?

You're right. When I travelled through Russia, I made friends easily and there was no animosity toward Poles at all, but some friends I made told me that their press sure tried to flame it up.

Jesus Christ, you want to collapse our economy with a HIV infested 3rd world enclave? Have you ever seen Kaliningrad? They can keep it.


Sasha is partly right, this is not a start of some grand political offensive but rather demagogical attempt at shoving guilt under the carpet, we should issue measured responces and not allowed domestic idiots (politicians) to use it as their vote gathering bytch, its no big deal.


A typical Russian sees Poland a small and insignificant country (despite us being 1/3 of their economy) of course most are buying the goverment crap to some degree but they dont blame us anymore.


Which in this case is stupid because the majority of Europe stops taking Russian historical claims serious and once future generations of Russians will try and come to grips with their history for good no one will even listen to them.


There is no game so how can there be a ball?:)

That said Russia is stuck at a medieval stage with failing economy and stagnant society, there cant be a dialogue when only one side is capable of talking, Russia is not evil (though it does evil) its simply a product of a century long path that ultimately leads to failiure as a state antagonizing everyone and their brother along the way.

Russia can't change even if it wants to.

Come to USA and see for yourself :D

I think you'll find many Poles, due to historical relationships with Russia, actually view Russia in a similar way to how many Balkan Slavs view the Turks... occupation, forced religious conversation, cultural suppression, subjegation etc.

scandalous. Situation is worse then i thought

then, Russia should change approach


actualy, alliance with Poland would definitely change Russia

if all Russian and Polish people get off the religion and become a atheist

Anymore golden thoughts ? this time without word atheist ?

random?

Polish and Russian people need to stop taking opium for the masses and get rid of religion then they will become human beings and become equal then they can be alliance for one common good but now they are divided by religion labels as religion is poison

how is this for golden thought ?

communists tried to live outside of the God`s (Christianity) path and their way proved to be wrong

Then also, look what happened to our ancestors in old era and in early middle age. It was opened hunt season on Slavs until Slavs didn`t finaly accept Christianity and until they abandened their old Gods.

So, hipotheticaly, if all Poles and all Russians (and other Slavs following them) abanden Christianity, western parts (non-Slavic) Europe would unite to destroy Slavs. On the other side, western parts of Europe are already united in idea of assimilation and destruction of Slavs and they are even in deal with Islamic world and Israel arround idea of destabilization of Slavs.