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There is no Muslim in Poland


jareck  
27 Sep 2007 /  #61
i have heard there are a few people of the islamic faith in poland, there is a famous man who converted to islam who was part of the campaign against the russians, there is a female in england who works for islamic relief i think... and in poland there is a mixture between arrabs, indians and polish who are classified as muslim.. i think we should appreciate diversity
Lukasz 49 | 1,746  
27 Sep 2007 /  #62
As I read many Chechens don't stay in Poland despite oficial status. They leave for Germany and Belgium to become ilegals. Quite a surprising behaviour. Why not to spend some 6 years in Poland, receive citizenship and move longer?

ask them

What is the reason of such choice. Bialostok seems to be a conservative region that doesn't like new residents.

conservative doesnt mean rasist

Besides that agriculture in mountains was connected in the past with insecure climate and hunger death thread made them visit their neighbours and taking hostages in order to receive meal in exchange.

truhlei,

Look Tatars are musilm, with fare east origin, and they live here in peace for 500 years. It is not about religion/rase. We have our model of society, and they dont even try to learn it. It is a problem. I dont see the posibility to let them cultivate traditions you mentioned ;)
Korniszon  
28 Sep 2007 /  #63
Try to tell a Pole that he is Russian or talk to him in Russian and you will offend him. Russians and Poles have litle in common. Even their alphabets are different. Westerners associate Poles with Russian due to one and only fact: Poland was dominated by Russia for 60 years or so during the communist times.

many Chechens don't stay in Poland despite oficial status. They leave for Germany and Belgium to become ilegals. Quite a surprising behaviour.

There is nothing surprising about it. They are looking for better living conditions and in Poland welfare benefits are poor. There is also no chance here for them to build a Muslim minority, mosques, and other elements of their culture. Poland is a very modern country where no Middle Ages customs will not be tolerated, especially sharia law.
Lukasz 49 | 1,746  
28 Sep 2007 /  #64
maybe some figures, few years ago in Poland there was about 5000 musilms (mostly Tatars living near BiaƂystok) now there is about 20000 - 25000.

XVIII/XIX century mosique in Kruszniki near Bialystok.

weedo

So figures show that musilmis (ligal) are very small miniority in Poland (38 mln people).

I decided to seach some articles in internet and I could find only in Polish rather left orieted article:

kaukaz.net/artykuly/czeczenia_art3.html

wspolczesna.pl/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061130/REG00/61129040&SearchID=73294747190744

so we will see in close future what will happen
truhlei 10 | 332  
28 Sep 2007 /  #65
I think many Russian residents are interested rebela from Chechnya abandon Russia and receive political refugee status in EU.
Russia has a perioud when its reputation in the West is quite low and some thousands of "refuges" don't damage much the image by the reason it is lost.

When new pro-west orientation comes to Russia again, the rebels will be in EU and their behaviour will contribute to the improvement of intereuropean relations.

That seems to be a good prospect and there are Nations within EU that welcome "fighters for Freedom".
Lukasz 49 | 1,746  
28 Sep 2007 /  #66
I think Russia should give them country, and let them live in way they want.
truhlei 10 | 332  
28 Sep 2007 /  #67
That already took place between 1991-1994 and 1996-1999.
They were de-facto independent.
The first experience carried to disapearance as informed of some 20000 ethnic Russians in these lands.
The second period (nearly no Russians rested there) was concluded by their invasion into Daguestan rejected by some Russian unorganized regular troops and Daguestan militias created immediately.

They didn't utilize their possibilities.

As to independence de-jure, what about East Ukrain in this case, Sisdnestrial Republic, South Osetya, Abhasya, North Cyprus, Vasconia, Corsica etc., etc.?
Lukasz 49 | 1,746  
28 Sep 2007 /  #68
That already took place between 1991-1994 and 1996-1999.They were de-facto independent. The first experience carried to disapearance as informed of some 20000 ethnic Russians in these lands.The second period (nearly no Russians rested there) was concluded by their invasion into Daguestan rejected by some Russian unorganized regular troops and Daguestan militias created immediately. They didn't utilize their possibilities.

they utilize their possibiliteis, and it is enought reason to do small extermination for them in their own country ?

As to independence de-jure, what about East Ukrain in this case, Sisdnestrial Republic, South Osetya, Abhasya, North Cyprus, Vasconia, Corsica etc., etc.?

plebiscite, give citizens of this regions law to vote and decide where they prefere to live, Russia/Ukraina Georgia/Russia ...
truhlei 10 | 332  
28 Sep 2007 /  #69
plebiscite, give citizens of this regions law to vote and decide where they prefere to live, Russia/Ukraina Georgia/Russia ...

Ukraine won't do that as well as Georgia. Besides that there are no unexpensive ways of migration of ethnic minorities. And the planet ignores Levittown.

they utilize their possibiliteis, and it is enought reason to do small extermination for them in their own country ?

Extermination? Do you know exact figures? Evidence? Is it their own country? Is it recognized by any state including Poland?

There may be some mistakes. Nobody tells we the Russians are all good. Poles will teach us living wirh Chechen refugees. We will see our mistakes and behave ourself better. We are so wild and don't have good examples. You will receive many refugees and teach us
Lukasz 49 | 1,746  
28 Sep 2007 /  #70
but it is their place on earth, and they can cultivate their traditions there.

Extermination? Do you know exact figures? Evidence? Is it their own country?

truhlei 10 | 332  
28 Sep 2007 /  #71
They always cultivated their traditions. And they were free de-facto in 1991-1994 and 1996-1999. They provoked measures against them.
The third "independence" will be finished in traditional way. You have another information?
Lukasz 49 | 1,746  
28 Sep 2007 /  #72
Yes you are definitely moskal and your Polish grandmother blood has spreaded ...

Truhlei you try to convict Pole that good Russians are provoked to do that things. We know what is Russian occupation.

give them country
isthatu 3 | 1,164  
28 Sep 2007 /  #73
cultivate the sort of wild mountain traditions that have kept them and people like them,the Afgans for example,in a medievil state of blood feud for as long as history records. What the russian military did in some parts of chechnya was brutal and unforgivable,but what many of the so called freedom fighters did and would do once handed power would be just as bad,if not worse due to the added element of fundimental islam.

just a thought,but,those ropes look incredibly cleen and sparkly white to say they have been buried round dead bodies wrists.....a photo on its own like that is not evidence of anything,for all anyone seeing that on this site could know that could be bosnians shot by serbs. this site does not seem to be the appropriate place for showing images like that,post a link if you like but leave the ghoulish pics elswhere .
Lukasz 49 | 1,746  
28 Sep 2007 /  #74
ok, so take all chetchenian refugies to UK

ust a thought,but,those ropes look incredibly cleen and sparkly white to say they have been buried round dead bodies wrists....

they need their own country, they want it and I dont belive russians telling sb have provoked them to destroy whole country ...
christoner 1 | 20  
28 Sep 2007 /  #75
ropes look clean but still the people are dead
truhlei 10 | 332  
28 Sep 2007 /  #76
Truhlei you try to convict Pole that good Russians are provoked to do that things. We know what is Russian occupation.

Does these pics show that defenseless people were murdered? Does it mean they didn't shooy before they were killed? Is it sufficient for accusation?

If Poles know what Russian occupation means why they don't recognize Chechen independence?

give them country

Today Breslau residents also have right to separate? They may meet better living conditions in Germany.
dobra  
4 Oct 2007 /  #77
Quoting Pavel: "And it is the black genus that says "Poles are racist" "Poles are not white" (first time I've heard that one) just because are men are sick of lude advances by black females. We're not racist, black women just aren't our type. But if you continue to provicate us, we will gladly become racist."

WHAT A RACIST!!! Sick lude advances by black females!!! Who do you think you are? Better white than black you racist!!! I am living in london - and oh by the way am African muslim getting married to a white Pole. He has warned me about your kind. Read, travel and open your mind because you are certainly living in the dark ages!!! Get used to it. 1 milliion Poles living in London and soon will be integrated with us darkies. - Dont worry we wont bite only our children will make your race a bit darker to irritate you white racist ignorant peasants!!
AmirahJanowitz  
4 Oct 2007 /  #78
blacks should stick with blacks and muslims stick with muslims and whites stick to white no interbreading. Poles are not racist they are right. If I was a man I would not want a black female. only as friends.your right pavel
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
5 Oct 2007 /  #79
ugly people should stick with ugly people and smelly people should stick with smelly people so its perfectly acceptable for an ugly smell black christian to get it on with an ugly smelly white muslim

im glad we've got that straightened out then
Polson 5 | 1,771  
5 Oct 2007 /  #80
no interbreading

If I was a man I would not want a black female. only as friends

I don't think it's true...are you sure you always choose who you fall in love with ? He or she maybe black, white, green, from Poland or Kenya, love is love and you can't do anything about it ;)
lol345  
5 Oct 2007 /  #81
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Inter racial relationships have existed for centuries - why is Pavel so stupid??? Is he for real??
Polson 5 | 1,771  
5 Oct 2007 /  #82
Inter racial relationships have existed for centuries - why is Pavel so stupid??? Is he for real??

Exactly, i don't see the problem ! We are humans, no matter we are white, black, pink or anything else ! ;)
AmirahJanowitz  
5 Oct 2007 /  #83
Lukasz do you have to show such graphic pictures and stuff.
people should have their own country. the dam Russians think they own Poland and half the world.that they can say for people what to do. everyone has a right to a good life.
QWSAW  
5 Oct 2007 /  #84
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Quote everyone has a right to a good life.
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blacks should stick with blacks and muslims stick with muslims and whites stick to white no interbreading. Poles are not racist they are right. If I was a man I would not want a black female. only as friends.your right pavel

I THINK YOU A BIT CONFUSED??? STOP CONTRADICTING YOURSELF!!!
AmirahJanowitz  
5 Oct 2007 /  #85
no I am not countradiction my self. I am right. I am no racist at all. my best friends were Blacks and Asains. you have the wrong idea of me. I am just saying when going into a serious relationship with somebody. it is ok to marry in to other religions or countries.
QWSAW  
6 Oct 2007 /  #86
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Quote: AmirahJanowitz

You keep defending yourself - even in other forums - YOU ARE FAKE!!
Lukasz 49 | 1,746  
6 Oct 2007 /  #87
I think that when lets say "white" want to marry "black" it is their private decission...
Polson 5 | 1,771  
6 Oct 2007 /  #88
Yep. No rules, just love ;)
AmirahJanowitz  
6 Oct 2007 /  #89
to each their own I guess. I am not fake. I am not wasting my time talking about this racial crap.
isthatu 3 | 1,164  
7 Oct 2007 /  #90
amirah,where's your pointy hood love? Polish KKK wow.........

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