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The past and future of Poland. Poland is lost.


michaelmansun 11 | 135  
30 Jul 2008 /  #1
Poland is lost. I lived in Poland when Poland was a nice country to visit. Now its just Europe. Expensive. Bloated prices. Housing ready to bust. Zloty exchange rate too strong. Poland was nice when it was cheap to visit. But without cheap accomodations, it's just another European country with old crumbly buildings, lots of drunks and old people left behind, and a desire to forget how backwards they were just 10 years ago. In many ways, Poland is still backwards. It's worse than Russia in that Poles are arrogant and stupid and have given what promise they ever had to the Western Europeans for cheap.
polishgirltx  
30 Jul 2008 /  #2
because of everything you've said

country with old crumbly buidlings, lots of drunks and old people left behind, and a desire to forget how backwards they were just 10 years ago

Poles are arrogant and stupid and have given what promise they ever had to the Western Europeans for cheap.

Poland was only better because it was cheap??
OP michaelmansun 11 | 135  
30 Jul 2008 /  #3
You know? Not really. But because life was based on more than economics, Poland had appeal. Now, it's all about how much my flat is worth. Poland was a great place to visit, to live. I lived there for six years. Now it's just..money..money..money..and it did NOT used to be that way. It's just a country for British drunks to come for stag parties...since this whole EU thing. I feel sorry for Poles. Not the young Poles, the real Poles. The Poles who worked in the factories for years. Your professors who earned 1100 PLN a month. Your doctors who earned 1000 PLN a month. The ones who are now too old to adjust. The young will leave the old Poland in the dust just as they did Walesa for that communist in 1995. The old who suffered thru all the difficult history will be forgotten...held in contempt by the young.
Del boy 20 | 254  
30 Jul 2008 /  #4
are you come over here to cry about Poland or spread some carp?

Your professors who earned 1100 PLN a month. You doctors who earned 1000 PLN a month. The ones who are now too old to adjust.

they are strongly contaminated by commie mentality, they created that mess, cause mass exodus of young Poles, they deserve it
OP michaelmansun 11 | 135  
31 Jul 2008 /  #5
Carp? You mean, crap? I don't live in Poland now. I left when you sold yourselves to the EU.
Del boy 20 | 254  
31 Jul 2008 /  #6
michal is that you again?
OP michaelmansun 11 | 135  
31 Jul 2008 /  #7
You dont even know your own history. The British and French abandoned you to the NAZI and the Russians. The Warsaw Pact did the rest. After that you were either communist or unemployed. The old were young at that time and they did what they had to do..for you or your father and mother. But you see, the young, like you probably, you only see what is in front of your face. Ignorance is as a virture in Poland.
Del boy 20 | 254  
31 Jul 2008 /  #8
belive me I know very well history of my own nation and I am proud of her

The British and French abandoned you to the NAZI and the Russians

are you sure that they were called Russians? you mean white russians or red russians?

After that you were either communist or unemployed

many survived without beeing both
OP michaelmansun 11 | 135  
31 Jul 2008 /  #9
Russians..Soviets..same thing..same as Chinese and Mongolians...almost..you know who I mean. Fine, the Reds, but what possible difference could that make?
Del boy 20 | 254  
31 Jul 2008 /  #10
huge differrent, have u ever wonder why communism never worked and have never been created in countrys which invented that ideology?
OP michaelmansun 11 | 135  
31 Jul 2008 /  #11
Nie. Dlaczego? Powiedz mi. Cziekawy jestem.
Del boy 20 | 254  
31 Jul 2008 /  #12
work it out on yourself
OP michaelmansun 11 | 135  
31 Jul 2008 /  #13
communism worked for decades..it still works in china and cuba. In failed in Soviet Union because of mismanagement of resources.
Del boy 20 | 254  
31 Jul 2008 /  #14
what about China? is communism still in place over there? dont think so, they abandoned that idea before whole eastern block
rafik 18 | 589  
31 Jul 2008 /  #15
Poland is lost. I lived in Poland when Poland was a nice country to visit

don't forget that this is just your opinion.ask majority of poles and they will all say that they prefer this situation not the old commie times.these were for losers only.

Poland was a great place to visit, to live.

of course it was when 1dollar could buy 4.5 zlotych.you could pay peanuts for everything and an average american guy coul feel like prince of persia here.

I feel sorry for Poles

there is no need to feel sorry. we are exited to be in europe again.we always belonged there.

are arrogant and stupid

that's why you lived there for 6 years dude?do you know who is on top of the list as most arrogant and stupid people?answer yourself.that should be easy.how did it go?"i don't know the diffrence between irak and iran..."

Not the young Poles, the real Poles

do you want to say that young poles are not real?i know what type of man you are.you are one of these old gits who love going to some poorer countries to feel better about yourself.when such country get richer and people stop feeling sorry for existing you move away to shine somwhere else.

Your professors who earned 1100 PLN a month. Your

this is a big crap.my professor earned 3500zlo in the 90ties plus grants ect.he was well off.he visited lots of countries including chile,china,kazakstan and many many more without paying a penny for it.stop spreading sh.it.1100 zlotych a month-that was for the beginner who wanted to carry on studing after masters degree.not a lot but ok in the 90ties

The ones who are now too old to adjust

don't worry.my father in law is in his late 50ties and said that there were never better times in his whole life.he is skilled craftman and 20 years ago he worked for "fags and booze" now he earn more than his wages in his regular job just for a few hours afternoon work now and again.
OP michaelmansun 11 | 135  
31 Jul 2008 /  #16
Im not promoting Communism.. Poland never embraced Communism. Poland just pretended to be communist until they could escape Soviet Union.

I lived in Poland for six years. I came there as a student. I brought no money. I got married and took a job. I earned 700 PLN a month and we survived. I eventually worked in a bank. I earned just 1500 PLN a month.

4.5 exchange rate. yeah, that was great. I worked my ass off and when I tried to buy dollars to come back to the USA, they gave me about 400 bucks. That sure went far over here. I left because a few people are making money from Poland and being part of Europe and all that rhetorical *********** the rest are struggling even more so. You obviously were born with advantages. Most are not.

No, young Poles are not real Poles. Unless you struggle to build a country, a home, you are not anything to that country. You young Poles only think of yourselves. None of you even want to serve in your own military. You go to doctors to get excuses from this. You dont think about the people who struggled just to keep your country operating when Western Europe didnt give a sh*it until there was money to be made.
Del boy 20 | 254  
31 Jul 2008 /  #17
we have to build our country nearly form the begining, create wealth ( many of us, temporary outside Poland ) pride, rebuild again broken mentality. there is a lot to do but we can cope with that, no worries
OP michaelmansun 11 | 135  
31 Jul 2008 /  #18
Rafik. Dont worry. The exchange rate to the dollar will collpase and will climb back over 3PLN in another year. Oil and interest rates are the only things which collpased the dollar against all European currencies. When your housing market begins to implode, and it will, and the US increases interest rates, and we will, I'll be paying 5 bucks for a fine meal in Krakow once again and 250 USD for rent..and sleeping with your sister...for free.
rafik 18 | 589  
31 Jul 2008 /  #19
keep dreaming,keep dreaming...untill that happens,you have to keep sleeping with your own sister...for free.
OP michaelmansun 11 | 135  
31 Jul 2008 /  #20
I dont have sister. Give it a year. We will see who will be laughing then. The confidence in the European economy is weakening...check the numbers. As our rates go up and oil comes crashing down..and it will..the Zloty will see some serious decline against the USD. And use American English when speaking with me. I know you like to associate with England now that you are in the EU, but "git"?
rafik 18 | 589  
31 Jul 2008 /  #21
I dont have sister

well.it could be your mom then..

Give it a year

what's gonna happen in 1 year?r u gonna print some more money?

Zloty will see some serious decline against the USD

it only could go up from the level the dollar is now.

And use American English

why?i live in the uk so why should use AE?geez, man you r so ignorant.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
31 Jul 2008 /  #22
michal is that you again?

LOL !
OP michaelmansun 11 | 135  
31 Jul 2008 /  #23
WOW! You live in the UK? WOW! Yeah, I lived there. I traded currencies in The City for two years. Still got friends there. So, why are you in the UK? No opportunities back home? Anyway, why use English at all? You may use Polish. Then you can laugh at my Polish.
Del boy 20 | 254  
31 Jul 2008 /  #24
michal, are you drank?
OP michaelmansun 11 | 135  
31 Jul 2008 /  #25
No, I am not drunk today. It's late here. I am off to bed...my sister is waiting :-))
Del boy 20 | 254  
31 Jul 2008 /  #26
I am off to bed...my sister is waiting :-))

you better wash your legs
ShelleyS 14 | 2,893  
31 Jul 2008 /  #27
It's just a country for British drunks to come for stag parties...

You're forgetting the Italians and the Germans... :)

it's just another European country with old crumbly buildings

Now that's your view and a rather shallow one at that, scratch the surface and these "old crumbly buildings" have many stories to tell, but I suppose you have to have some kind of interest in history and love of architecture to understand that.

Rafik. Dont worry. The exchange rate to the dollar will collpase and will climb back over 3PLN in another year. Oil and interest rates are the only things which collpased the dollar against all European currencies. When your housing market begins to implode, and it will, and the US increases interest rates, and we will, I'll be paying 5 bucks for a fine meal in Krakow once again and 250 USD for rent..and sleeping with your sister...for free.

Poland has moved on and I would suggest you do the same...

why?i live in the uk so why should use AE?geez, man you r so ignorant.

You speak property English don't you sweety :)

you better wash your legs

Better his mouth with soap and water...
rafik 18 | 589  
31 Jul 2008 /  #28
So, why are you in the UK

i don't have to explain.it's not your business,mate.

No opportunities back home

there are,mate.

why use English at all? You may use Polish

check the pf rules,mate.

Then you can laugh at my Polish.

i'm not such low life,mate.

...my sister is waiting :-))

say hello from rafik

property English

yeah i'm a bit into estate bussines;)
ShelleyS 14 | 2,893  
31 Jul 2008 /  #29
yeah i'm a bit into estate bussines;)

I mean proper...fek!
Kilkline 1 | 689  
31 Jul 2008 /  #30
Poland is lost. I lived in Poland when Poland was a nice country to visit. Now its just Europe. Expensive. Bloated prices. Housing ready to bust. Zloty exchange rate too strong. Poland was nice when it was cheap to visit. But without cheap accomodations, it's just another European country with old crumbly buildings, lots of drunks and old people left behind, and a desire to forget how backwards they were just 10 years ago. In many ways, Poland is still backwards. It's worse than Russia in that Poles are arrogant and stupid and have given what promise they ever had to the Western Europeans for cheap.

I visited Poland before they joined the EU also. The changes have been largely good but of course with increased opportunities and wealth comes increased greed and jealousy. As a Westerner to say that Poles should go back to some sort of post-communist idyll where 'we were poor, but we were happy' is arrogant in the extreme. It reminds me of those people who think that third world countries should be kept in dark ages to serve as some sort of theme park of how we used to live.

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