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DtLebowski  1 | 26  
31 Jan 2009 /  #31
Why? They control everything, don't they ;) Blaming the Zionists!! the Zionists!!! on everything makes me feel better about myself. Ps. The Zionists are everywhere!!!!
Sasha  2 | 1083  
31 Jan 2009 /  #32
His library consists of one book

Don't say it's alphabet?! :)
Seanus  15 | 19666  
31 Jan 2009 /  #33
Judging by how many Poles can't even separate i from e, we can rule the alphabet out.
marycha  - | 7  
31 Jan 2009 /  #34
You mean should say that they are Jews and so deserve to die. That's the normal Polish reasoning.

Harry . I wonder if you are one of Israeli paid bloggers? If not you must be a politically correct or stupid Jew.

Growing in Poland - we learned to respect everyone indipendently from their ethnic, national and religion origins ( do you remember Poland used to be socialist country - and one of basic principles of socialism was RESPECT).

Please stop using "Zionits" - there is no such nation or country - do not avoid to use JEWS as all Zionists are Jews and 90% off worldwide Jews supports Palesitinian holocoust according to news from Israel papers.
Sasha  2 | 1083  
31 Jan 2009 /  #35
Growing in Poland - we learned to respect everyone indipendently from their ethnic, national and religion origins

Mmm... Russians too? :)
DtLebowski  1 | 26  
31 Jan 2009 /  #36
90% off worldwide Jews supports Palesitinian holocoust according to news from Israel papers.

I understand criticism towards Israel policies. But that is total BS. Talking about respect...

Israel has existed around 60 years now. Let's put some things into context here. Second (and bloodier) intifada lasted from 2000 to 2008 and took over 4000 Palestinian casualties by Israel (also, Hamas killed few hundred fellow Palestinians) and Palestinians killed 1000+ Israeli Jews (mostly civilians). Palestinians are the weaker side there, but organizations like Hamas have their supporters. Sad situation there, but well documented by numerous reporters unlike in many areas in this world where a lot bloodier things happen...

Then some comparisons:

Killed in Iraq after US-British invasion: at least 100 000 (some say lot more), mostly Iraqi civilians. Oh these good Western saviors.

How many Russia killed in Chechenya? More than 150 000 for sure. Totally raped the country, Chechen civilians disappeared every night, found raped and killed. Jurists who take Chechen side are shot to death every year. This kind of behavior does not happen from Israeli troops towards Palestinian civilians.

My home country, Finland, during it's 91 year independent existence has killed many times more people than Israel.

"Logical conclusion": the Jews are evil like no other men.
Sasha  2 | 1083  
31 Jan 2009 /  #37
How many Russia killed in Chechenya? More than 150 000 for sure. Totally raped the country, Chechen civilians disappeared every night, found raped and killed. Jurists who take Chechen side are shot to death every year.

Oh please... spare me that... :) How do you know? Media said?
DtLebowski  1 | 26  
31 Jan 2009 /  #38
Sasha: I agree that I put this out quite inflammably, but still... Read about Chechenia, make easy math calculations. Nobody knows exact numbers, but this is what I count, only the averages I'm afraid.

Jurists who take Chechen side are shot to death every year.

And this is what gets media attention, not the suffering of Chechen people.

And also, my point wasn't to show how bad Russia, US or Britain (or Finland for that instance) is. It was to show the hippocrate double-standards that so many are willing to impose on Israel when judging it's actions.
Sasha  2 | 1083  
31 Jan 2009 /  #39
Sasha: I agree that I put this out quite inflammably, but still... Read about Chechenia, make easy math calculations. Nobody knows exact numbers, but this is what I count, only the averages I'm afraid.

Bro, but why don't you mention those 1000s of Russian people raped and killed since the USSR was about to collapse in 1988-1989. I can provide you with many real stories about Russian people who lived in Grozny (the capital of Chechnia) under the permanent fear of being killed, how all that started, how Russians went M.I.A on their way back home.... and that's exactly why....

And also, my point wasn't to show how bad Russia, US or Britain (or Finland for that instance) is. It was to show the hippocrate double-standards that so many are willing to impose on Israel when judging it's actions.

...and that's exactly why I support Israelis in their operation because the islamic terrorists understand only one language - the language of violance and kill and if you don't kill them today, they will kill you tonight.

P.S. Btw, nice avatar I wanted to pick it firstly. I love the cartoon. Very kind, Czechs have done great job. :)
DtLebowski  1 | 26  
31 Jan 2009 /  #40
Ok, I have had enough of talking about violence, at least for this evening.

Sasha: Yea, I chose this avatar without second taught, Krtek reminds me of my childhood. :)
joepilsudski  26 | 1387  
31 Jan 2009 /  #41
I see instructions of behaviour haven't been send to USA.;) It is good that you defend our history becuase a lot of facts are not well known ... especialy in USA. and the fact is that our country have been sold in Yalta and our history have been sold after Yalta ...

Many Polish-Americans remember history better than Poles because many Polish-Americans fought and lived through WWII; the older ones anyway still remember certain things...Yalta?...What was amazing about Roosevelt, Churchill & Stalin is that all three were part Jewish: Roosevelt, Jewish on both sides; Father: Ashkenazim (Rosenfeld), Mother Sephardic (Delano/Delani)...Churchill, on mother's side; Mother's name: Abrahmson....Stalin, on father's side (Djugashvilli: 'Jewish son', Georgian 'mountain Jew')...All three sold Eastern Europe to the Communists, which is a Jewish philosophy start to finished (based on the Jewish concept of the 'kahal'), but is very bad for non-Jews...Another historical irony: Hitler himself was part-Jewish...the Nazi 'philosophy' is almost identical with the Zionist concept, i.e. ethnic cleansing, population transfers as practiced today by Zionist in Israel vis-a-vis native Palestinians...The only flag other than the Nazi flag which was allowed to flown in Nazi Germany?...The Israeli flag...This was flown at special training camps the Germans set up for Jews who had signed on to emmigrate to Palestine...At these camps, which were not 'concentration camps' but rather well-appointed, German Jews were trained in modern agricultural techniques and related skills...All historical fact: Please read the book 'The Transfer Agreement'...History is full of these 'ironies'...But for Poland, bad news from Nazis, Communists and 'the Allies'...All considered Poland inconsequential in the 'Grand Scheme'...And all of this, of course was bad news for the little Pole, Jew, Ukranian, German, Russian...Very bad news.
marycha  - | 7  
31 Jan 2009 /  #42
marycha: Growing in Poland - we learned to respect everyone indipendently from their ethnic, national and religion origins

Mmm... Russians too? :)

Sasha have a look at this website and learn a little bit about some Jews in history of which present day Jews, ( at least openly ), are not proud of them.

jewwatch.com
HatefulBunch397  - | 658  
6 Feb 2009 /  #43
I can't help but wonder when I read these posts...everyone who knows anything about history knows that Europe has a long history of antisemetism, not just toward jews, but toward semetics in general, roma, jews, tatars, whomever happens to be semetic. What I wonder is, since Europeans do not want semetics living with them, or didn't, at one time, why do Europeans object to semetics having their own state someplace else? That is the part I don't get all. Since you don't like them, why be against a place away from you so you won't have to live side by side?

It seems like you would be grateful they have their own state so they aren't living in yours.
Seanus  15 | 19666  
6 Feb 2009 /  #44
Oh geez, please return to your history books. Many Europeans have no issue with Israel being a state. They do object, however, to the way in which the state was constituted. Occupying land formerly occupied by others is not exactly what the former occupiers wanted. Anything which doesn't address this central issue is mere deflection.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11803  
6 Feb 2009 /  #45
veryone who knows anything about history knows that Europe has a long history of antisemetism, not just toward jews, but toward semetics in general, roma, jews, tatars, whomever happens to be semetic.

And the US not???

Do you think all the people settling in the new continent changed at the landings???

Do you know what one of the US most revered war heroes General Patton thought about Jews???
666ismoney.com/Patton.html
And he wasn't alone...

Let's face it, till far after the end of WWII most people didn't like Jews! And most still don't but PC-rule makes them hide it better!
HatefulBunch397  - | 658  
6 Feb 2009 /  #46
Let's face it, till far after the end of WWII most people didn't like Jews! And most still don't but PC-rule makes them hide it better!

I am not trying to be PC. I never said people are not bigoted. I think most people are bigoted, at least a little. That's part of the human condition...but you have to respect universal human rights. I am not typing this just to appear PC.

For instance, there is one race I am not attracted to at all and can not seeing myself ever marrying into, I won't say which race it is. Even though that's the case, I don't hate them as a race or deny them the same rights I have. I don't think they should be denied anything based on their race.
Seanus  15 | 19666  
6 Feb 2009 /  #47
Israel respects universal human rights?? Why has it broken more UN Resolutions than all the other members together? Why did it kill and maim around 4500 people??

What a hypocrite you are if you believe your rhetorical guff. I also believe Israel must stop the rockets but not by pummelling innocent people into submission.

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