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Poland's Future Includes Fewer Poles, More Foreigners


Cardno85  31 | 971  
22 Sep 2008 /  #301
I have a question?
Why are there so many Poles in the UK, and why do so many Brits live in Poland?
This is not a joke.. I would appreciate a intellegent answer.
This is something that I have often wondered about.

This is just a theory but I think:
The Polish people headed to the UK when it joined the EU to find higher paid work. When they did, then their friends would have come over to visit and often found themselves in work as well.

Now, obviously mingling with the polulation means many of them entered into relationships and had friendships with people from the UK. So when they wanted to go home they went with girlfriends/boyfriends/spouses and such back to Poland. Also people getting bored with the UK might have friends in Poland and so move there to work.

Well, it's kinda the short and sweet version...but I think that's the reason.
dcchris  8 | 432  
22 Sep 2008 /  #302
people move. simple whether for love, work or whatever reason.
noimmigration  
22 Sep 2008 /  #303
The more likely reason that their are brits in poland is because the huge amount of enterprise and business invested in poland by britian. Also because of the fact the many british secondary and teriatry business has located to poland but are obviously british run. I doubt the poles are going to suffer hordes of brits moving into poland to work in unskilled jobs and make less money than they would at home
harrySummer  - | 10  
22 Sep 2008 /  #304
I have a question?

Why are there so many Poles in the UK, and why do so many Brits live in Poland?

This is not a joke.. I would appreciate a intellegent answer.
This is something that I have often wondered about.

They are going to start an economical war against Germany.
Wahldo  
22 Sep 2008 /  #306
about Vietnam.

ironically most of it is from the usa

I don't know if it's that ironic, look the business we do with Japan.. Germany.
Warsaw8  4 | 126  
23 Sep 2008 /  #307
They are going to start an economical war against Germany.

Starting something is one thing, and many can do it, but finishing the job or winning is a whole other story, many dont get the privaligde to tell that story of German defeat.

;)
Seanus  15 | 19666  
29 Dec 2008 /  #309
Hope so and wish so? Why?
Yoshi  - | 60  
6 Jan 2009 /  #310
It seems we've missed the trend completely.

Japan is still 99.5% East Asian, 98.5% Japanese, and less than 1% Christian. Non-Japanese people from the other East Asian countries are mainly Korean, Taiwanese and Chinese immigrants and their descendants, who anyway speak Japanese and behave Japanese. All the foreign-originated propaganda promoting multiculturalism have fallen on deaf ears. The mantra of "Multiculturalism works" is still quite unheard of, and the ones who have heard it generally thought that it was just another Communist nonsense (as my neighbour has once said, "What? Someone from the jungle in my neighbourhood? Give me a f--king break").

Some argue that we need more workers, but the overwhelming majority disagree with opening up our border to unskilled workers. It's better and actually cheaper to use automation than having ghettos full of welfare spongers all over the country.

Machines can be sold once they become unnecessary, but uneducated foreigners from uncivilised parts of the world cost a lot to the society - even to deport them. We do not need screwed up people chanting "Death to Japan" within our own country or the ones trying to convert us to their religions in our neighbourhood. Why should we repeat the same mistake of the UK and create our own Moss Side or Longsight? We didn't need Somalian gangs to set up Toyota or Honda.

Of course, some highly skilled people come to Japan and work. Many software engineers from India live in Tokyo, for example. Such people are most welcome.
Kilkline  1 | 682  
6 Jan 2009 /  #311
I wish I could disagree with you. But its hard to.
kamakama  - | 3  
7 Jan 2009 /  #312
every immigration debate I witnessed or was involved in is a repetition to one single theme that many either overlook or simply choose to ignore

what is a country?
a collection of people with a single ethnicity and living habits? or a constitution based on laws that stem from her citizens based on democratic process?

what is modern citizenship?
do you earn it or inherit it?

simply speaking a country in this global village is like a family, it's members happen to find each other living in the same house, you might not get along with your parents or your siblings but you manage to have a set of rules that everyone abides by to ensure a harmonious existence overall

Europe's relation with immigrants is akin to that between a damsel in distress and the knight, he saves her from the dragon then when he tries to "get some" she refuses! wtf

knight did his part, immigrants have helped build Europe from the rubble of ww2 to the thriving and wonderful place it is now, now when they ask for their own identity and principles to be incorporated into the social weave of the Europe society they are denied? 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants are part of Europe by virtue of merit because their fathers helped rebuild this continent

same goes to new immigrants, Europe needs low level labour as well as very skilled labour so these must be let in and the consequences of having these highly skilled migrants will be a compromise from Europe to their cultural and social heritage, within democracy and freedom of speech of course but a compromise nonetheless
Kilkline  1 | 682  
8 Jan 2009 /  #313
now when they ask for their own identity and principles to be incorporated into the social weave of the Europe society they are denied?

You dont turn up at someones house, spend some time there and tell them to change the decoration as you dont like it. Or the food. Or tell them their daughter should cover herself up so you dont get aroused. You especially shouldnt do this if you werent invited to the house but simply turned up and demanded shelter and protection or because you saw the opportunity to live in a nicer house than the one you currently live in.

Also, what if the identities and principals are in conflict with the existing indigeneous ones?
kamakama  - | 3  
8 Jan 2009 /  #314
You dont turn up at someones house, spend some time there and tell them to change the decoration as you dont like it. Or the food.

you can demand that there will be a certain alteration from their part to accommodate you since you aren't simply a guest, you bring bacon at the end of the day, you are a resident ... and in the case of the UK I'm sure no one will mind if you asked to change the food

Also, what if the identities and principals are in conflict with the existing indigeneous ones?

there was a group of people in the 18th century who held principals which conflicted with the existing one, these principals were freedom of speech, human rights and the right to vote ... their principals were considered alien to that society but they were nonetheless useful to the whole society, I'm not proposing a revolution like the French one but a constructive debate about what should be incorporated and what shouldn't must take place

K
Kilkline  1 | 682  
8 Jan 2009 /  #315
you can demand that there will be a certain alteration from their part to accommodate you since you aren't simply a guest, you bring bacon at the end of the day, you are a resident

Sure you can ask. You can even use your vote to select a candidate you think will represent you better, just like everyone else. Of course, just like everyone else your requests can be ignored in favour of the majority.

there was a group of people in the 18th century who held principals which conflicted with the existing one, these principals were freedom of speech, human rights and the right to vote ... their principals were considered alien to that society but they were nonetheless useful to the whole society, I'm not proposing a revolution like the French one but a constructive debate about what should be incorporated and what shouldn't must take place

These principals were incorporated as they were seen as beneficial to both the economy and society as a whole. What sectional beliefs are you saying would hold as much benefit to Europe?
adrian11224  7 | 41  
10 Jan 2009 /  #316
Thread attached on merging:
Poland’s Future Includes Fewer Poles, More Foreigners PART 2

So after reading the first
Poland’s Future Includes Fewer Poles, More Foreigners

seems like there were a few people who were smart enough to realize that if Poles want to keep their culture, they will realize it is their responsibility to keep all those flooding foreigners out.

Who want's their nation to be invaded by different men, language and women when in the end we all know they won't adjust to Polish ways or language and just live off our land and start spitting out their Russian and w.e. language speaking babies?

If its one thing I know is that many Russians are Criminals. Not all so keep your panties dry.

Look at America, its going down because of all the immigrants, so if Poland needs to do something is to stop that same problem before it starts.

But how do you do all that with all of the corrupt people in the Government ? I see no WAY except get a new Despotic Government who will make a Poland for Poles and try to maintain EU relations.

Any Ideas ?

One idea is if you are into politics, you can read about the protocols of Zionism Gold section. These men really know what they are doing, and I'm afraid no dumb European will be able to get rid of them without being united.

the whole Idea of America is BULLSHIT. but lets get back on topic.

How will us POLES stop Foreigners from stealing away our Polish culture and turning us into another Russian speaking satellite FOREVER AND EVER AND EVER?
VaFunkoolo  6 | 654  
10 Jan 2009 /  #317
You hang on to your bigos munching traditions dude but it will largely be foreign influence that brings your country up to scratch. Deal with it
adrian11224  7 | 41  
10 Jan 2009 /  #318
its not the bigos I am worried about, its having people to go to when shit hits the fan!
VaFunkoolo  6 | 654  
10 Jan 2009 /  #319
its having people to go to when shit hits the fan!

What exactly do you mean by this?
Eurasian  2 | 24  
11 Jan 2009 /  #320
Yay for multicultural countries!
Matyjasz  2 | 1543  
11 Jan 2009 /  #321
How will us POLES stop Foreigners from stealing away our Polish culture and turning us into another Russian speaking satellite FOREVER AND EVER AND EVER?

Start making babies right now. A lot of babies.

Or sabotage any attempts to improve the quality of life here in Poland.
adrian11224  7 | 41  
11 Jan 2009 /  #322
sounds like a plan!
isn't that the mistakes UK Germany and West made because they were all trying to have such better qualities of life instead of doing what is better for the culture ?

I think that if Polish economy will be so good in 10 years why not start planning ahead ?
sjam  2 | 541  
19 Jan 2009 /  #323
Look at America, its going down because of all the immigrants, so if Poland needs to do something is to stop that same problem before it starts.

Surely apart from the original native Americans; America has only ever been a nation of succesive immigrants?
Foreigner4  12 | 1768  
28 Jan 2009 /  #324
Yoshi really immigrated the truth on to this topic and ended the whole debate at post #313.
Shame on you guys for not recognizing the greatness of that post.

Anyone who has even the slightest inclination to post on this topic really ought to read that post and then ask themselves if they can add any substance to his points or counter his points- I bet we can't.

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