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dtaylor 9 | 823  
3 Oct 2008 /  #61
So ur against the left?
OP Lukasz 49 | 1,746  
3 Oct 2008 /  #62
Of course it will afect elections and people have the right to vote. Rocco represented somebody. Barosso (i like this guy) defended him but for some people he couldn't be expert beause of his religion.

It is seems that in modern world we are going to have more such debates.

If this child is human:

If this pensioner is human or we can use his "bad" day and give him some papers to sign (it is good for economy):

Maybe in future we are going to have next questions:

If this kids are human: jampiria.blox.pl/resource/maciektusiaczarek.JPG

or maybe:

Who knows ...
lesser 4 | 1,311  
3 Oct 2008 /  #63
Only because the left is 'always wrong on everything'.
dtaylor 9 | 823  
3 Oct 2008 /  #64
Lukasz

Stem cell research takes place far before that cycle does. cmon mate, u know u can do better than show pics.

Only because the left is 'always wrong on everything'.

i hate the left too, but for different reasons than u;)
hello 22 | 890  
3 Oct 2008 /  #65
should be banned? so you want this victim to be victimised further? that's messed up and that's exactly why there is no room for religious fanatics in any government.

Check what I wrote about psychological aspects. Government and even doctors won't tell that to the woman before it's too late. Being pregnant is not a disease. Government should rather focus on victims of HIV who get it in hospitals when taking a blood sample.
dtaylor 9 | 823  
3 Oct 2008 /  #66
Government should rather focus on victims of HIV who get it in hospitals when taking a blood sample.

Explain?
OP Lukasz 49 | 1,746  
3 Oct 2008 /  #67
Stem cell research takes place far before that cycle does. cmon mate, u know u can do better than show pics.

I am debating the right to my opinion.
Lodz_The_Boat 32 | 1,535  
3 Oct 2008 /  #68
the left

I am not a leftist exactly. But I am not in the right either...I am in the middle. :)
Seanus 15 | 19,672  
3 Oct 2008 /  #69
Abortion for rape victims should be banned, that's one of the most ridiculous things I have heard, especially if u make it an absolutist ban. Totally not taking into account the feelings of the victim.

£ukasz, I respect ur opinion but I don't agree with it. I think we'd need to go into the specifics of exactly when the 'thing' in the foetus becomes a living and sentient being.

Rakky, what r u talking about, back to the thread? U r telling me the Catholic church doesn't take a stand on issues such as abortion? Come off it laddie. Should we be having a semantic discussion on Mother Mary? How come she is hardly mentioned in forum discussions? She forms the basis of critical distinctions between religions. For example, the Orthodox Prawosławny religion, the predominant one in Belarus, recognises Mother Mary and holds her in high regard. However, not in the same light as in Poland. Such strong beliefs help maintain their faith but, as many Poles will tell you, they are losing faith in the church for numerous reasons.
OP Lukasz 49 | 1,746  
3 Oct 2008 /  #70
un born child is human
Seanus 15 | 19,672  
3 Oct 2008 /  #71
This is a delicate issue and I don't want to offend sensibilities and sensitivities.

All I'd ask is that u acknowledge that there are situations in which abortion may be acceptable. I'm neither pro-abortion, nor anti-abortion. There are occasions where they shouldn't be granted and occasions where they should.

I accept, £ukasz, that many abuse their right to having one in the UK. Abortions such as these belittle the value of life. Stupid young girls and boys who play around and abort freely are irresponsible.
osiol 55 | 3,921  
3 Oct 2008 /  #72
Every sperm is sacred. If any sperm is wasted, the Lord gets quite irate.

I bought a pint of Guinness, and the barmaid drew a picture in the head of the virgin Mary. I drank it anyway, but the bubbles left on the side of the glass after I had finished left a series of pictures of the stations of the cross, Moses and his mountain and a little depiction from the book of Revelations.
szarlotka 8 | 2,206  
3 Oct 2008 /  #73
I bought a pint of Guinness

There are many miracles in one. You don't get miracles in Magners, just wind.
Seanus 15 | 19,672  
3 Oct 2008 /  #74
Co ty gadasz człowieku? LOL

Are you sure it was Guinness u had?
osiol 55 | 3,921  
3 Oct 2008 /  #75
gadać? That's the more polite term.

I was actually drinking T.T. Landlord and Bombardier. No visions or effigies appeared, if truth be told.
Del boy 20 | 254  
3 Oct 2008 /  #76
Every sperm is sacred. If any sperm is wasted, the Lord gets quite irate

we all are children of devil then
:)
Seanus 15 | 19,672  
3 Oct 2008 /  #77
Not more polite Osioł, ty gadaSZ, not gadać.

I wouldn't disrespect u, I respect ur judgement on many things.
osiol 55 | 3,921  
3 Oct 2008 /  #78
gadaSZ, not gadać

I was responding with the generic form. You said that I chat, so I merely stated that to chat, blah blah blah. "Co ty p********z, obszczymurku" is the kind of thing I've gotten used to recently, so I thought you were quite polite.
Seanus 15 | 19,672  
3 Oct 2008 /  #79
Yeah, insulting folk isn't my gig. Co ty gadasz człowieku, with the right intonation, is meant jokingly.
Del boy 20 | 254  
3 Oct 2008 /  #80
seanus and osiol, are you starting insulting yourself by using Polish slang language?
is this a level of your high advanced polishness?
OP Lukasz 49 | 1,746  
3 Oct 2008 /  #81
Ok ok somebody is rediculing this problem but it seems that old pesnioners when they have worst day get papers to sign and are killed (euthanasia) abortion is tool for teens.

What do you think maybe we should let parents of this kids to kill for economical reasons:

If life is not value anny more. I can find people with logical interpretation that this kids wouldn't survive without help. Imagine yourself that Adolf Hitler was one who introduced policy exterminating such people.
osiol 55 | 3,921  
3 Oct 2008 /  #82
is this a level of your high advanced polishness?

Of course. I'm not learning Polish for highbrow purposes. There is a side of me that is a manual labourer who works with other manual labourers, some of whom are Polish.

Yeah, insulting folk isn't my gig

I know, but I'm just a more coarse individual.
Seanus 15 | 19,672  
3 Oct 2008 /  #83
High advanced Polishness? What r u insinuating here? Most Poles think my level of Polish is quite advanced, I use Polish in meetings and communicate with authorities in Polish. I don't, however, think it's that high. I hear Intermediate students of English speak as well, grammatically, as I do. Communicatively, I could pass as Upper-Intermediate, maybe higher depending on the subject. Still, so what?

What was ur point DelBoy?
Del boy 20 | 254  
3 Oct 2008 /  #84
There is a side of me that is a manual labourer who works with other manual labourers, some of whom are Polish.

don't be like them, actually being among somebody highly increase amount of being part of them but this is definitely wrong direction
osiol 55 | 3,921  
3 Oct 2008 /  #85
don't be like them

Good advice. Someone should tell them to stop being like me too.
Del boy 20 | 254  
3 Oct 2008 /  #86
What was ur point DelBoy?

my point was I felt u guys start insulting its other but maybe I am wrong
osiol 55 | 3,921  
3 Oct 2008 /  #87
I felt u guys start insulting its other but maybe I am wrong

I don't think Sheepie insulted me, but I might have insulted myself.
Del boy 20 | 254  
3 Oct 2008 /  #88
it is Friday night, some of us sitting and drinking, that's explain everything
miranda  
3 Oct 2008 /  #89
some of us sitting and drinking

are you? I am not. Will be having tea in a minute or so.
OP Lukasz 49 | 1,746  
3 Oct 2008 /  #90
Get out of my thread if you have noting to say.

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