Sarkozy has faikled to invited Poland's head of state to this year's' Normandy (D-Day) landing celebration despite Poland's participation in that offensive with Gen. Maczek's Mechanised unit.
FRENCH SNUB POLISH WAR EFFORT
Sarkozy is an idiot who is so far up his own a*s that he wouldn't recognise any outside influence/help. People like him and Churchill just bask in their own glory and forget the most basic courtesy of recognition.
Churchill had some achievements unlike Sarkozy who only talk BS.
That's not the point I was making, lesser. Did Churchill welcome the Poles to Britain after WWII? Did he suitably honour their commendable efforts? I'd say no.
He had strong words against the Polish people. Selfish and stubborn were but two.
He had strong words against the Polish people. Selfish and stubborn were but two.
OK, I understand but still there is a difference. Churchill was realizing some political strategy, as far as Sarkozy is concentrated this is silly completely unjustified megalomania. I have heard that he wanted to invite only Obama. This is a bit similar to anniversary of WWII in Moscow. Over there Putin directed all attention mostly on himself and Bush. At least he invited others too.
I agree that Sarkozy is a megalomaniac. Churchill was responding to necessity. Did he draw up all the strategies without any help? I don't think so somehow. Did he give praise to all those where praise was due? No.
My point is that both have done likewise and, on this matter alone, are both guilty of being aloof and ungrateful. Maybe if they didn't let Poland slide into communism, they may have joined this 'great' EU ;) (or the EEC as it was).
My point is that both have done likewise and, on this matter alone, are both guilty of being aloof and ungrateful. Maybe if they didn't let Poland slide into communism, they may have joined this 'great' EU ;) (or the EEC as it was).
time means 5 | 1309
31 May 2009 / #7
The queen is still waiting for her invite as well. I wonder if Angela is going?
"The British? The Canadians? The rest of the Commonwealth? The Poles? Just take a seat at the back somewhere please, don't bother President Nicolas Sarkozy while he's whispering sweet nothings to President Barack Obama," Hardman wrote.
"The British? The Canadians? The rest of the Commonwealth? The Poles? Just take a seat at the back somewhere please, don't bother President Nicolas Sarkozy while he's whispering sweet nothings to President Barack Obama," Hardman wrote.
Torq
31 May 2009 / #8
FRENCH SNUB POLISH WAR EFFORT
The thread title sounds really funny considering that even after the
fall of Poland our armed forces with 600,000 soldiers on the Eastern
and Western fronts were the 4th Allied army (after American, Soviet
and British armies). So our effort was bigger than French :)
Apparently, France has waaay to many friends and allies in EU
to allow herself to insult Poland like that (and we have good
memories Mr. Sarkozy :)).
Now, I'm going to eat some French... erm.. I meant - Freedom fries :)
*seriously thinking about removing the French flag from his avatar*
Direct from Belgium, gotta love those fries, Torqy boy :)
France would have been slaughtered at the Maginot line without help. Normandy would be German now without assistance.
Sarkozy clearly doesn't see Poland as high profile enough :( He's a scabby and stingy Jew who goes on swanky holidays and doesn't foot the bill. He'd fit in well on this list news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/8039273.stm, TRAGIC.
France would have been slaughtered at the Maginot line without help. Normandy would be German now without assistance.
Sarkozy clearly doesn't see Poland as high profile enough :( He's a scabby and stingy Jew who goes on swanky holidays and doesn't foot the bill. He'd fit in well on this list news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/8039273.stm, TRAGIC.
Robert Whiting, an elderly gentleman of 83, arrived in Paris by plane. At French Customs, he took a few minutes to locate his passport in his carry on.
'You have been to France before, monsieur?' the customs officer asked sarcastically.
Mr. Whiting admitted that he had been to France previously
then you should know enough to have your passport ready.'
The American said, "The last time I was here, I didn't have to show it." 'Impossible. Americans always have to show your passports on arrival in France!'
The American senior gave the Frenchman a long hard
look. Then he quietly explained, "Well, when I came ashore at Omaha Beach on D-Day in 1944 to help liberate this country, I couldn't find a single Frenchmen to show a passport to."
You could have heard a pin drop.
'You have been to France before, monsieur?' the customs officer asked sarcastically.
Mr. Whiting admitted that he had been to France previously
then you should know enough to have your passport ready.'
The American said, "The last time I was here, I didn't have to show it." 'Impossible. Americans always have to show your passports on arrival in France!'
The American senior gave the Frenchman a long hard
look. Then he quietly explained, "Well, when I came ashore at Omaha Beach on D-Day in 1944 to help liberate this country, I couldn't find a single Frenchmen to show a passport to."
You could have heard a pin drop.
Bratwurst Boy 8 | 11820
31 May 2009 / #11
I wonder if Angela is going?
Oh please not!
It was embarassing enough to see Schröder there last time...
Torq
31 May 2009 / #12
You could have heard a pin drop.
Priceless! :D
Bratwurst Boy 8 | 11820
31 May 2009 / #13
I dunno...seems to be the same category like the jokes about american/english pilots and german towers...never happened in reality but makes a good story!
Does it really matter if the story is true? Actually there was not a frenchman to be seen on D day.
But after the fighting was over they came out in droves greeting the Allies
But after the fighting was over they came out in droves greeting the Allies
Bratwurst Boy 8 | 11820
31 May 2009 / #15
But after the fighting was over they came out in droves greeting the Allies
Yeah...and all and their grandmother having bravely fought in the resistance of course...
Does that include the ones that had their heads shaved for fraternizing with the Germans too?
Bratwurst Boy 8 | 11820
31 May 2009 / #17
Seems mor like the "shavers" wanted to prove their special braveness with that..
So our effort was bigger than French :)
Not only this.
Poles had never fought against allies while the French did. E.g., the British had to destroy the French fleet which didn`t want to fight against Germans after France`s fall. Later on the French resisted Americans and Brits in nothern Africa in 1943, they were really serious with their defence there.
Today the French prefer to forget it, they also try to erase the memory of their cooperation with Nazi Germany (Vichy government) and they think that de Gaulle wiped all French faults from WW2.
They are pathetic but they do not realise this. :):):):)
Seems mor like the "shavers" wanted to prove their special braveness with that..
The French were known for their braveness. They lost Haiti, North Africa. Dien Ben Phu in Viet Nam.. Then of course France.. The National flag of France should be WHITE.
He is an idiot this man. I didn't know about other leaders not being invited but I'm British and heard that our Queen wasn't. Now that's crazy to me as she is the only monarch in the world who actually served in the war. For those who don't know she was a mechanic. And if it wasn't for the commonwealth (and of course the USA) France would still be under Nazi rule.
Sorry for my rant but i really hate the French
Sorry for my rant but i really hate the French
Also, the French were firmly against going into Iraq (which is good) but Sarkozy was quick to do deals with companies there and curry favour with other parties in the Muslim world.
He's a scabby little opportunist :)
He's a scabby little opportunist :)
Rafal_1981
31 May 2009 / #22
The whole article mentioned in this thread: montereyherald.com/ci_12467397
This is a direct insult to the British.. They were very active on D day. Thet landed on Sword, Juno, and Gold beaches.
He had strong words against the Polish people. Selfish and stubborn were but two.
Like what??? i always thought he liked us, i only heard him talk bs about the Japps calling them backward yellow bas**r**.
'You're a callous people who want to wreck Europe. I shall leave you to your own troubles. You have only your miserable, petty, selfish interests in mind!;
This was said at the Eden meeting. Churchill didn't retract this but he said it under duress and was frustrated at the pickle they were all in.
This was said at the Eden meeting. Churchill didn't retract this but he said it under duress and was frustrated at the pickle they were all in.
He's a scabby little opportunist :)
He's my freakin' political idol. Also he's a cvnt but thats beside the point
Bratwurst Boy 8 | 11820
31 May 2009 / #27
guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/may/31/dday-beevor-hay-festival
Did someone read this book by Beevor?
Did someone read this book by Beevor?
He's my freakin' political idol.
What are you smoking? The guy is dangerous, every single idea that he propose is extremely populist and highly ineffective.
Come on, Sokrates, step up to the plate and give us an outline of the great things this man has done. We're listening.
What are you smoking? The guy is dangerous, every single idea that he propose is extremely populist and highly ineffective.
I never said he's smart or did anything good or great, its just the way he's able to cynically achieve profit thats awesome.