English vs. Polish hostility

I only try to scare naughty boys, so if you behaved this year you don't have anything to worry about. :)

As for getting out knowledge from films, you are right it is very dangerous to do so, but than again, would you risk a statement that there are no white power skinheads present in Australia? Or better yet, that there are no tensions between people of different ethnic groups? Between Australians and immigrants? Before you do so, I will remind you about the riots that took place in Melbourne last year (correct me if it was a different city) where a huge group of drunk white youths ( I think it was about 1000 of them) started to beat every Arab looking people that had the misfortune to get in their way. It was as a result of beaten up two lifeguards by some Arab immigrants.

In conclusion, what would be the reaction of Poles when 600 000 immigrants landed one day in their country? My answer is, the same as any other nationality would be. Some would be ok with it, some would moan.


This image of Poland that you seem to display is only about 90 years old. Before the partitions of Poland, or should I say the Republic of Both Nations (Rzeczpospolita Obojga Narodów) it was a multinational country, with Poles, Lithuanians, Belarussians, Ukrainians, Jews, Armenians, etc.. living next to each other.

You have a good memory, the riots were the first of a kind in oz, they actually took part in a affluent part of of new south wales, a place called Cronulla, it wasn't australia's finest hour, there were a lot of issues involved, ie excessive alcohol, boredom of young people, it also highlighted the problems associated having people from certain countries who do not fit and respect its way of life,


If that occurred in oz, must people would be up in arms and demand a stop. (although oz now has a labour shortage and would welcome anybody who would fit in)

i realy do think that this statment is a load of rubbish. i am english and i remember a time when the unemployed used complain and say it was the asian comunities that where taking the jobs.

i think it is about time that those english people who are unemployed and are complaing about this should get off the bums and do try working as hard as the polish and asian at finding work.

correct me if i am wrong lef, but wasnt there a fish and chipshop lady not so many years ago who gained suprising support for her rather extreme rightwing political views... ?

Good memory, her name was Pauline Hanson, these people come and go and want to come back, her main beef was people from asia coming to oz, mother, father and three kids. first port of call on day one to Centrelink (social security) and payments for life.

I think most people would agree that if your country has a substantial unemployment rate why would you want to bring in people who just go on welfare, keep in mind its more than paying unemployment benefits (which is attractive) but also subsidized housing,transport, medication and free medical/hospitals. Topped up with warm weather to enjoy at the beach.

I think its not much of a ask to reduce immigration while your country has a unemployment rate.


No one is saying that poles and Asians don't work, its a question of economics, you can only stretch the dollar so far.
Sometimes people who enter other countries are the most wealthiest from where they come from and just cry poor, the poor people would'nt have the means or resources to uproot.

Get real............so who are you blaming for 18% u/e in Poland.........the Ukrainians...?...laughable.........

Ummm he was talking about England, with blooming economy for 70 years.

And you are talking about Poland after 50 years of occupation still in trouble, slowly changing, economy is nowhere near blooming.

Eh why do you compare the reasons of u/e in these two so different countries?

Dragging the topic towards Poland whats the score with disability benefits?
I'm not up to speed so my info may well be wrong but I've been told that many, many claim this and work in Poland is this wrong, am I being (unitentionally slanderous)?

first time on the site and i only really decided to log on after reading some of the somewhat blinkered opinions of the both the english and polish contributors.

ihave been visiting poland now for over 4 years ive dj'd in many towns/citys i have property and business interests in the south of poland im married to a polish girl.

i have the upmost respect for poles who come to the uk seeking work i know how difficult it is in poland and how it is near on impossible to create a home and a stable enviroment for yourselves and your family. it disappoints me that a percentage of english people choose to ride the benefits system. for my part i have worked bloody hard to establish a long term future for myself and my wife back in poland one day, away from lager louts, hoodies, tony bloody blair and the home office! but im still english and if you cut me in two youll see the union jack, so.....to ola and a couple of other poles that posted less than polite remarks about your chosen host country, last time i was in kakow djing there was lots of jobs available for your bigoted sort working in kitchens, bars and restaurants. to sum up wracajcie do domu !!!

Hey Simon, spot on. Good man.
Don't worry about Ola, it was established a while back that she isn't the brightest spark in the box.
Do you still spin in the UK?

I left England because England is rubbish - 20 years ago, and now it is worse. I went to Poland because they have nice mountains and countryside, people don't get pissed up to throwing up point like fat slags in Nottingham.. because places are open all the time and they don't put spotty gits behind the bar that tell you to **** off once they have taken all your money.

England is not a nice place.. so don't insult other countries. You can make comment on other countries and cultures once you have visited or lived in the other country- until then .. stay in your box.. this is what the government wants.

Oh right so we dont have these things in England.


Nothing wrong with that :)


I like it


I might if I feel like it :)


lol, government, thats a joke!!!!

I'm sorry this is just another example of the polish 'victim' syndrome. there is no real hostility at all, there is a minority who think that there are too many polish people entering the UK and that they should stop coming here.

Thats about all it is

i can not agree that there is any hard feelings in Polish for english... atleast nothing extraordinary :D

Full agreement with you PoznanMan.

If it wasn't for the economic benefits of working in England I couldn't imagine why anyone would want to come and live here. Nanny state, political correctness, litigious society, high cost of living, permanent rain (well in Manchester anyway!), uncontrollable crime, laws favouring the perpetrators of crime over their victims, and general governmental incompetence to name a few reasons why I'm leaving UK for Poland in 2008.

UK people should be pleased that the Polish people have such a good work ethic and want to improve themselves (and in many cases for the benefit of their families back home). Obviously there are always exceptions, and I'm not denigrating the genuine people in need, but how many Poles do you see having loads of kids, living in a free flat, living off benefits and watching Trisha/Jeremy Kyle every day??

I hope your not a Brit, i really do, your on planet uranus if you think that Poland is better than the UK, i don't even have to go into the details its obvious!!! I'm not saying i don't like Poland because i do, i just find i strange how the polish say they hate the UK yet there are hundreds of thousands coming for work, now if that isn't contradicting yourselves or been hypocrites then i really don't know what is.

If you don't like the UK your welcome to get on a plane and go back to where you came from.

I agree this country is not perfect but its more so perfect than Poland and a lot of the countries in the world :)

well said tornado. Im sure that guy is a Brit.. and a stupid one at that. Actually there actually are plenty of Poles living here rent free.. they just bunk up with friends or relatives.. i saw 25 Polish people living in a 3 bed council house on TV the other day... and plenty who dont pay taxes either. I have nothing against anyone coming here who is willing to contribute something to our economy and not going to moan about how crap the country is in relation to their life back home.

Sorry can you please tell me where all the recent floods were, because they were not in Manchester! (Idiot)


Obviously you, since you seem to know so much about these things.


Saw that, bit annoying really when I pay my council tax and there is only me living in my flat - no wonder there is a strain on certain local amenities when the correct revenue isnt coming in!

For the record, I am a Brit, before you start throwing your toys out of your pram:)

The point i'm trying to make is that there is a well documented benefits culture here in UK which is all too often the easy way out for many British people to live their lives. Polish people coming to UK generally do so to work, not to live freely on government hand-outs available to UK citizens. To reiterate, i'm not criticising those in genuine need of help, but it can't be denied taking blatant advantage of the benefits system goes on.

That's all

We can always change that fact Ama. It so happens that I know very well 24 really nice polish lads living in your neighborhood that would be more than eager to help you out and move in to your flat in no time. :P

And more seriously, 25 people in 3 bed house? That's just a recipe for disaster and bloodshed! :/

So why don't you lazy fat Australian's get of your fat arses and do the jobs the English are stealing from you???........Even your Head of State is a Pom!!!

lmfao it's like reading a script for some crap show like eastenders, from page one it's diss this diss that,
what a life, some people must have nothing to do all day long so they come on the web and moan and groan i love it but seriously...............

so what if every other nation is moving to britain how many brits have moved out to other nations, if i could i'd move to mars only because it might be warmer, then other people will follow me, and if there is such a thing as green men then they will be moaning because we have invaded them, it's all swings and roundabouts so why worry about it i want to go to spain and live in about 20yrs time only because of the weather and the beaches, not because this country is full of foreigners or the scumbag goverment has stolen our pension money or half of the brits r lazy and on the dole spunging, i want to relax in my later years with my wife and just chill out is there anything wrong with that. ?? x x

I threw a snail at a Polish man today.
He threw another back one at me.
Hostility?

nope, he was saying "thak you, i've already had one"

mearly an exchange of congeniality

Hmmmmmm, nice thought but dont think b/f would go for it some how :)


I saw the same prog as Foxy and it was pretty grim :(

"Ummm he was talking about England, with blooming economy for 70 years."

Get real,for god sake,you guys had it tough,yes,no one doubts that,but try telling anyone who lived in Nortern England in the 1980s that we had a booming econamy and they will laugh in your face. You may have had communism and martial law but here in yorkshire and other industrial parts of the UK we had represion,poverty and mass unemployment.The sort of unemployment figures that would have made people envious of Polands current position.We also had the army beating up protesters,look up battle of Orgreeve .And the secret service infaltrating educational and industrial institutions,Poland didnt /doesnt have a monopaly on hard luck stories.

The resentment in my local area(not shared by me,but with motives understood by me) has more to do with only just having the area regenerated 20 years after the ***** maggie thatcher(god that pee's me off how much so many Poles I know think the sun shines out of her arse just coz she took on Gorby et al) devested the local econamy.For instance,closing down viable coal mines and importing cheap coal from silisea instead(to add insult to injury doncaster,once a great center of coal and enginering is now twinned with gleiwitze,where our coal comes from) ,some of our northern towns had unemployment running at nearer 40-50 percent even only a few years ago(mid 90s) and this wasnt "lazy people" this was no jobs available and no financial development programes and regeneration in place. Just as the effects were coming into play,ie buisness investment in the area's and things were starting to look up for people we were faced with a string of sudden mass imigration from the late 90s onwards,all this adding strain to weak local infrastructures like schools,housing and medical services, Poles are just the latest arrivals and with over 15 thousand in a small city of less than 90 thousand this is hard to take when jobs are scare and future's uncertain for people who are invested in the area through family ties/history etc.So when some display a locust like attitude of" coming here to get get get" whatever that be,education money etc and then leave it does stick in the throat somewhat.

k.

I can totally sympathise with that. Sometimes I think history is nothing but a huge joke.

I have to say that I have noticed that very strange regard that many Poles have for Maggie Thatcher. Id like it if somebody could explain it to me because as an Irishman, I just dont get it!! Outside of the south of England she was one of the most hated people these two islands ever produced. She destroyed the North of England, Wales and Scotland economically. They only got over the iron lady's reign of terror in the past few years. She also prolonged the war in the North of Ireland by at least a decade through her murderous policies of state sponsored terrorism. I couldnt believe it when I started getting lectures from Polish friends of mine who seem to think she's the greatest thing since sliced bread! I was in Poland for Christmas last year and when her name came up at the dinner table and when I expressed a natural dislike of the woman, a couple of my girlfriends relatives nearly choked on their beetroot soup! Please explain

I've noticed this too. Is it common and why???