Polish engineer beheaded in Pakistan.

I know but the Taliban did him a bad turn many years ago. He has come to forgive them.

on and off a couple of times.. i think they killed his pops just a few years ago..

Somehow I doubt it. More likely as a head of state he is seeking the solution that is the most practical balance between radicalism and bloodshed. He has a thin line to walk, and I do not envy him.

John P.

Vietnamise were yellow and many yellow were commies. LOL





Afghanistan is trap, in 80's americans understood that.

Muslims ARe Not Pigs But Its WhereEver You Go U Find Extrimist People With Stupid Oppinion The Human Blood is Forbiden In All Relegions and Human Rules But You Make Big Mistake When You Accuse All Nation With The act of some Mad People who Killed The Polish engineer Mr : Piotr Stanczak which we are all Sorry For Him and For His Family .

Im Muslim and Im Not (Pig) Like U said also Im Not In accusation Position Or Guilty That This Happend .me And Islam Are Innoccent From What This Taliban Soldiers Done as Much We are innoccent From Ur Words .

By The End I Wich You Will be Able to Give us some Of Ur Expenssive Time not so much 10 Minits Every Mounth For Muslims Victims All Over the world I Can Help U With This so From when Can We Start : Palestine? ,Iraq ? , Pakistan?, Chichan ?, Afganistan .........?

I Can Show U Millions Of Pics But I Know U Wont have the Time and the Enought Courage To See All This Pics Of Wimen ,kids ,Infants.......!!

Army Role is to Protect Country and To Kill Now we Have Polish Troups Thousands Km Far From Home so What do They Do There ? I Think Afganistan Or Iraq Is Not Polish Towns Im I Right ?

U See Young handsom Pl Army With No Long Beard and Dirty Clouths Like Taliban Members However They Are Ready To Kill cevilian at any Time and with cold Blood and This Already Happend

so What Is The Difference ?
May Be The Only Difference is That Muslims Victims Fall Often Every Day and Every Hour
I Hope You Will be Just and Fair That U Can See Every thing Much Clair Its Every Where You Find Extremism
Different Mask For One Ugly Face
My True Condolences for Polish And engineer's Family About This . Salam

Simply put, they were radicals. I've met many nice Muslims. Still, this happens when you push the faith boat out too far.

The difference is that our side of "one ugly face" (as you called that) is trying to get yours out of the stone age and your side is doing everything (mostly killing thousands of own people) to keep them there.

So, Khaled, why is sexism so accepted in places such as Pakistan? Why regression and not progression? Who gave those people the right to deny women education?

Keep people ignorant and you will never move forward.

Come come Seanus - Pakistan hardly has a monopoly on sexism.


.. by killing every last one of them if need be (Iraq, Palestine etc.)

by bombing the crap out of them? interesting..

I hope you have been reading the comments in this discussion ,i have mentioned about videos being posted on the net showing a 12 year old Taliban beheading an alleged spy there are also videos of the Chechen rebels sliting the throats of captured young Russians soldiers and then letting them go before gunning them down ,there is no Religion that can condone this savagery and the mere fact that acts like this are filmed and posted makes it barbaric beyond words ,I think being a Muslim you can can offer your true condolences to the brutally murdered inocent Polish Engineer by condeming this savagery act and not trying to find a justification for it ,i beleive this is the root of the problem ,you so called moderates ride a thin line ,you want to be potrayed as the oppressed .

You can't label every Muslim based on the actions of the Taliban. Can I blame Christians for people like Fritzl? Or how about the Spanish inquisition? You moderates indeed walk a thin line.

Still trying to find justification ,how difficult is it to say, I condemn this savagery, its not a part of my religion.

i think this thread is missing more "we" vs "you" or "they" along with rounds of congratulating others from the same country or culture about how superior we are as opposed to "them." Then to be topped off with claiming responsibility for all positives to come out of our respective cultures, not acknowledge the positives to come out of other cultures and then judge everyone from another culture based on the very worst examples we have been shown via popular news sources.

It is complete savagery of the worst form. Which begs the question, what was he doing there that was more important than self preservation?

If a paki gets beheaded in Poland,a war will start.

surveing for the Trans-Afghanistan Pipeline?

Thats a question you can put to the millions of professionals that live and work out of their countries not only for their own selfish gains but for a better world ,something we call tecnology ,expertise and knowledge which unfortunately is not the same in every part of the world.

Good answer, DPe (sorry, couldn't bring myself to call you DP). One less country receiving contributions is a sacrifice worth making given the factors at work. These people really need more protection. I've heard stories from 2 friends asking for maximum security. One went to Nigeria, the other to Kenya.

are you suggesting he was there for altruistic reasons or financial? I'd have bet on financial myself, but hey there are a ton of Poles in the uk for financial reasons too, i don't think beheading is the answer, or at least i really really hope it isn't.

hardly :), our government sells their own people for bounty

Pakistan would not start a war with Poland, I agree. It's Hamas who have their grand plans, specifically referring to Eastern Europe (Poland is Central but people think of Poland as such)

I don't know if it has been mentioned above,long thread.

I feel sick by watching the videos.
The reason they beheading their victims and video them so they can scare anyone with attention of going there,soldiers or spy or engineer.

so tactically(war point of view) it works.

there's rules in Islam how to deal fairly with a prisoners(warzone).

islamonline.net/english/introducingislam/politics/System/article05.shtml

very interesting link please read it

It's interesting but bears no resemblance to how extremists who act in the name of mohammad behave.

This is a rather fluffy interpretation and we know the Koran is open to many many interpretation.

yeah, that's a bunch of BS.. that is not how POWs are handled over there.. never have either..

first thing muslim ppls are not pig`s evryone he have heart and blood and he have right to have his relegion,who wanna said something he can read befor about Crusades wars...

ok this innocent he die for nothing,maybe he die and he try to help pakistan ppls,but the probleme is many countries (Nato) make pbs for them ppls only,ok militar polish for example he was on the first line on this 2 wars ( Irak and afganistan) have ppls who d`ont know civil is not militar and who paie? ppls

What she won poland from this 2 wars? this is the question and wich i know all contracts is for American and english Firms only,

About who said about 09/11 ppls are happy,i can say yes have much ppls was happy because all arabic countrys have collonization american (economic) and you can say millitar too (look how many base militar american in muslim coountrys if you said no..ah you support terrorisme) but who make 09/11? oussama bin laden?

i wanna know please in christian relegion d`ont have extremiste ppls ?

condoléances for the family and all poland,

A good question. The government at the time probably bought into the Iraq invasion thinking there was a lot of money to be made along with the potential to make close ties (possibly as a negotiating counterweight to the EU) but they got screwed - all the favours went to the US / UK.


Indeed... George Bush was only too keen the whip the religious right into a fervour over the upcoming war with the Muslims, because let's face it, that's what it was sold as - not a war against Al Kaieda or Iraq.

Some good news


reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE51R0OE20090228?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews&rpc=69&pageNumber=1&virtualBrandChannel=0

and some really bad one :(, these people need to be brought to justice immediately, cricket is my other religion..
pkpolitics.com/2009/03/03/sri-lankan-tean-attacked-6-players-injured

how's that.. it was yellow cake, WMDs, freedom, democracy and other reasons but sure never heard that it was about killing muslims.. you're making this up..

Europe cringes at Bush 'crusade' against terrorists

"On Sunday, Bush warned Americans that 'this crusade, this war on terrorism, is going to take awhile.'"

George Bush and the Rise of Christian Fascism
Rev. Rich Lang
Trinity United Methodist Church Seattle.

"For example:

1.. Mr. Bush consistently sends signals to his right wing religious base. In last year's State of the Union he exhorted: "there's power, wonder working power, in the goodness and idealism and faith of the American people". It's a phrase from a well known Communion hymn "there's power, wonder working power in the blood of the lamb". Bush brings together the holiness zeal of Christian evangelicalism with patriotic fundamentalism. The core belief system of this 'civic gospel' goes something like this: The United States was founded as a Christian nation with free enterprise as the only economic system truly compatible with Christian beliefs. These religious values are today under attack in America. "

informationclearinghouse.info/article5648.htm