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matthias  3 | 429  
20 Mar 2008 /  #361
im a muslim and butchers selling pork doesnt bother me..nor dus it bother me wen i go 2 the pub/bar (where i DONT drink alcohol) and sit with people that are drinking and eating meat/pork/beef/watever..

so its not really EVERY1 hu has an issue!!!

No not everyone, however you must admit that many don't see it your way... If all muslims would be like you and learn to not force beliefs onto others than it would go a long way in repairing the negative image the religion has...
sw33t20  1 | 24  
20 Mar 2008 /  #362
true..i undastand that..but i think many of the younger generation see it my way..its just the oldies hu have an issue with things..either that or im pretty naive :)
Patrycja19  61 | 2679  
20 Mar 2008 /  #363
selling pork in your shop, you must be insulting Islam!

I dont know what a polish girl would do in a relationship with a muslim if she cant
cook the way she was taught.. and is forced to eat foods/cook foods she isnt
familiar with.. the whole culture is like doing a 360..

not saying thats important.. but Polish cook and eat pork.. so why on earth
are so many muslims even thinking of marrying a polish girl...

you brought up a very valid point.. :)
matthias  3 | 429  
20 Mar 2008 /  #364
true..i undastand that..but i think many of the younger generation see it my way..its just the oldies hu have an issue with things.

No I dont thing your naive, in fact I think your right for the most part...... Now not to say that some in the younger generations aren't like the oldies but the majority seems like their not... Unfortunate thing is that the oldies are the ones who run the governments of the middle east...... however I think within a few decades this may change.....
Patrycja19  61 | 2679  
20 Mar 2008 /  #365
but i think many of the younger generation see it my way.

thats good.. so then your not traditional..
sw33t20  1 | 24  
20 Mar 2008 /  #366
I think your not naive, in fact I think your right........

y thank you.. :) im not usually ryt

so then your not traditional..

hmmm....i wudnt say i was traditional..but i do have limits which i wouldn't cross..but i think of myself as British and der r obviously thngs that other cultures allow which arfen't aloowed in mine and uv jus gta get on with it..n i totally agree with many of the comments iv read about not changing laws 2 suit muslims..laws shudn't need 2 b changed..we shud all b able 2 live 2getha respectful of each others cultures and religion..but like i sed the some people hu have moved here from elsewhere don't c it like this..
matthias  3 | 429  
20 Mar 2008 /  #367
y thank you.. :) im not usually ryt

lol : ) .......... you are when it matters........
Patrycja19  61 | 2679  
20 Mar 2008 /  #368
we shud all b able 2 live 2getha respectful of each others cultures and religion..but like i sed the some people hu have moved here from elsewhere don't c it like this..

so are they out to change other countries views ?

can you give good examples to what is/can happen in a Polish/Muslim
relationship.. do you know of two relationships that worked without
regret? and sorry folks it would be more of a Catholic/Islam relationship
how can this work? the two clash like fire and water.

I can see a marriage happening if the man and woman become seperated
from their religious bond. and no regrets and later move on to some other
denomination if they choose. ( that would be a union) not the woman becoming
islamic or vs versa.. because I am sure there are laws for him as well that would
create problems.
sw33t20  1 | 24  
20 Mar 2008 /  #369
i dont thnk theyr out 2 change views..they jus complain about them..lol..

well its a bit complicated when it cums 2 marrying in2 other cultures and religions..from wat i remember (n it myt b wrong so will hve 2 do sum research) but men can marry women from other cultures (im not quite sure if they have 2 convert 2 islam 1st tho) but women cant marry ne1 hu isnt a muslim..so if she is in love with a guy hu isnt muslim den 2 b able2 marry him he has 2 convert 1st..

2 b fair i dont really know of marriages that work wen the 2 mix..im sure there are the sum but from my experience n people that i know it dusnt..BUT then agen i know a lady hu was marryd like twice 2 muslim men and is now happily marryd 2 a white guy..but he had2 convert 2 islam..i jus dont know how well he follows islam..dus that make sense???
ShelleyS  14 | 2883  
20 Mar 2008 /  #370
true..i undastand that..but i think many of the younger generation see it my way..its just the oldies hu have an issue with things..either that or im pretty naive :)

What a load of bollox...the younger generation are extremists and after the London bombings there were more head gear wearers than I have ever seen in my life....It's like here I am, Im a muslim..the older generation that came over in the 70s integrated....to a certain degree.....

btw, you sound such a modern muslim....where did your wife come from...did you send for her from pakistan, because wouldnt it be just awful to marry someone that was Westernised!...soon be an end to chain imigration though, mark my words!

thats good.. so then your not traditional..

Now thats funny Patty, because as much as they like to think that they are all modern and Westernised...they still dont / wont fit into Western life and I dont mean drinking...I mean "integration"...the ways of the old country are firmly embeded in their lives...and these ways have no place in our English society..
sw33t20  1 | 24  
20 Mar 2008 /  #371
btw, you sound such a modern muslim....where did your wife come from...did you send for her from pakistan, because wouldnt it be just awful to marry someone that was Westernised!...

err....if u look under my name it sez i am FEMALE and y assume that i am marryd??? im not.. n my parents arent even from pakistan..or india 4 dat matter..!!! its wrong 2 assume!!!

the ways of the old country are firmly embeded in their lives...

and wat old country myt u be talkin about??? coz iv neva lived newer else besides england!!!!
Filios1  8 | 1336  
20 Mar 2008 /  #372
err....if u look under my name it sez i am FEMALE and y assume that i am marryd??? im not.. n my parents arent even from pakistan..or india 4 dat matter..!!! its wrong 2 assume!!!

ShelleyS wrote:
the ways of the old country are firmly embeded in their lives...

and wat old country myt u be talkin about??? coz iv neva lived newer else besides england!!!!

Good lord, learn how to write in English!
snoke31  - | 11  
20 Mar 2008 /  #374
about relationship with muslim, why the secand side have to convert to islam,
if he love her, why he dont go for her reiligion, and why muslim women cant get marry with unmuslim? its sound unfair, amd the way to control world from islam
Filios1  8 | 1336  
20 Mar 2008 /  #375
about relationship with muslim, why the secand side have to convert to islam,
if he love her, why he dont go for her reiligion, and why muslim women cant get marry with unmuslim?

Well said, well said.
Patrycja19  61 | 2679  
20 Mar 2008 /  #376
Good lord, learn how to write in English!

lol I think this is texting type writing because alot of people have cell phones
and anyone seen that commercial with the grandmother talking text?

my daughter does this too. and I have to pull them out of the text mode
because even the youngest will come up to me and say.. um OMG mom lol
Wroclaw  44 | 5359  
20 Mar 2008 /  #377
about relationship with muslim, why the secand side have to convert to islam,
if he love her, why he dont go for her reiligion, and why muslim women cant get marry with unmuslim? its sound unfair, amd the way to control world from islam

Because it is a faith for misogynists.
matthias  3 | 429  
20 Mar 2008 /  #378
agreed, and yet somehow many are a bunch of dirty perverts...
Patrycja19  61 | 2679  
20 Mar 2008 /  #379
about relationship with muslim, why the secand side have to convert to islam,
if he love her, why he dont go for her reiligion, and why muslim women cant get marry with unmuslim? its sound unfair, amd the way to control world from islam

I agree.. I think these culture laws are way out of control. its not even
about marriage anymore.. as we have witnessed on those videos.
Wroclaw  44 | 5359  
20 Mar 2008 /  #380
lol I think this is texting type writing because alot of people have cell phones

No, it's because they don't wish to conform. Most phones have T9 predictive text, which is quicker than SMS text.
Patrycja19  61 | 2679  
20 Mar 2008 /  #381
coz iv neva lived newer else besides england!!!!

I think she is conformed,, just cant get away from the text issue.. :) lol

No, it's because they don't wish to conform.

I dont disagree with your post tho.. or shelleys.. its to bad we cant put up
signs along the highways that read.. Un-conformators... stay the f out :)
bellzii  - | 26  
21 Mar 2008 /  #382
apostatesofislam.com

youtube.com/watch?v=2WLoasfOLpQ

How pathetic !!!!!

How easy is it to make a website with my own (with different names ofcourse) testimonials saying islam says that and that........all the rubbish things they say...

No one really knows what islam is? and strangley no one wants to know about islam from a practicing muslim, its just as going to a florist and asking how can i cook that italian cuisine "Emilia-Romagna "

And just a small note not all arabs are muslims !!!! As a matter of fact the largest population of muslims are not arabs.
matthias  3 | 429  
21 Mar 2008 /  #383
You can say that's made up but those are actually ex-Muslims who created that website..... and everything they say is true.... Read the history of Muhammed..... He was no saint....
Patrycja19  61 | 2679  
21 Mar 2008 /  #385
How pathetic !!!!!

How easy is it to make a website with my own (with different names ofcourse) testimonials saying islam says that and that........all the rubbish things they say...

so your saying that there is no possibility that people who are muslim are manipulating the true form of islam to benefit their own cause?

People dont understand a whole lot on these issues.. so its much easier to
hear from those who do practice it.. and snoke did provide a link to a
reporter discussing islam and whats going on currently. so your saying thats
a fake site? that she isnt real and speaking her mind about the issue ?
matthias  3 | 429  
22 Mar 2008 /  #386
apostatesofislam.com/media/handcutting.htm#video

link to video of muslims cutting hands of a criminal.....

apostatesofislam.com/media/stoning.htm

video of stoning..........

Muhammed himself the founder of Islam ordered such punishments personally....

I like to know how muslims believe in Jesus and Muhammed at the same time when Jesus was a man of peace and Muhammed was the exact opposite......

From a theology point of view Jesus said there will be many false prophets after me.... So either Jesus is a liar or Muhammed....... you can't believe in both....
sw33t20  1 | 24  
22 Mar 2008 /  #387
Muhammed himself the founder of Islam ordered such punishments personally....

im sorry your wrong there matthias, the propehet muhammed didn't order nothing personally..god revealed these messages to muhammed..and these punishments were seen fair..and if im not mistaken isnt the phrase "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth" from the bible?? the book of exodus???

oh and muhammed wasn't the founder of islam..islam started wayyy before him..it was abraham that started this generation of islam..the muslims before abrahams rule had different ways of life..

and anyway why can't people accept that this is the religion of many..and if they are happy following it then why do they have to defend it to the likes of people who know little about it and are always criticising it..let us get on with following our religion and you follow yours..
szkotja2007  27 | 1497  
22 Mar 2008 /  #388
Read the history of Muhammed..... He was no saint....

Lol.
snoke31  - | 11  
22 Mar 2008 /  #389
the propehet muhammed didn't order nothing personally..god revealed these messages to muhammed..and these punishments were seen fair..and if im not mistaken isnt the phrase "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth" from the bible?? the book of exodus???

for my friend sw33t20 i recpect your talk, i Invite you ,to use your mind and look for Muhammed like a human not like as Prophet, and thnk well and aswer your self about this questions?

what he did new after juses? he said to kill

Qur’an:9:5 “Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”

* i didnt creat any webside ( its from quran)

juses said love even your enemy forgive for them pray for them, imagain the power of love and forgiven, not kill and fight,

about ((phrase "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth" from the bible?? the book of exodus??? ))
its was b4 juses come its was in time of jews and juses come to complete it so its was b4 the blesing time ( i means juses time )

and you as women what you in islam?
your husband can marry 3more and you what?
how the quran treat women muhamed said you can stop pray if dog or women passed in the room ( can you imagain) ( i will pring the proof or hadeath of you want)

another thing,,, what muhamed did when they bring for him ADULTERESS,( with one man), what he judged about her ( he said shoot her by stone),

what juses did when they pring for him ADULTERESS??? he said who is without sins from yours start and shoot by stone, he give her chance to life to be good human

so where is the true ?? who is from god?
who saying to kill to cut hands and shoot or who says forgive and love and giving chance for ppl to life, im sorry if i hurted any sp by my talk
tornado2007  11 | 2270  
22 Mar 2008 /  #390
propehet muhammed

yeah married and had sex with girls under the age of 16!!!!!!!!!!! not only one but a number of them. Your profit is a dirty pervert. NOw if thats the word of god then i think religion is better of in the bin :)

I'm not even going to touch on the rules of your religion as its a joke :)

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