Polish girls' obsession with marriage

So much pressure.It is unbelievable.

Run away. Leave one for the Turks/Nigerians/Norwegians!

southern... you always look for some lame chicks and then whine and complain about them on PF...
get normal, boy...

Remember the old chinese saying:

No tickey, no laundry!

just polish girls, southern?

i'm with pgtx on this one.. quit picking up the crazies, eh?

You can't believe how obsessed Turkish girls are about marriage.

Do you blame them??? YOU are their free ticket out of Poland and into a "life of wealth!"

You are like a fish that has taken her bait. You are firmly hooked at the end of the line. She is reeling you in. She has a big smile on her face...

No use fighting it, southern:)

OMG there's a video of her on youtube!! I don't know who the guys helping her are though. Look at that smile!!

polishcanuck - you seem to be convinced polish girls are so useless that the only way for them is to force some poor chap into marriage. Ever crossed your mind you met wrong girls, and it was only because you might be sending out a wrong message? As long as you think somebody is interested in you only because of your nationality, money or others "goods" that's exactly the way it's gonna be.

And just for you to know, girls are fine on their own, able to earn their own money, get degrees etc., nowadays we are even allowed do vote, can you imagine that?! SO if we need a man it's not necessarily for "goods" it might be for "partnership" you know...

Olasz, I am not saying that Polish girls are useless. I'm not even saying that each and everyone of them is a gold digger. But many are, and they love to pounce on foreigners like a cat would pounce on a mouse. I travel to Poland often and i see how girls react to me and other foreigners. I know what people (esp. women) think about foreigners in poland (i speak polish). They are much more eager to start a relationship with a foriegn man than a native pole, and one of the major reasons for this is that a man from western europe/NA is more likely to give her a better life, financially speaking.

I am not personally affected by this (as you have suggested) as I have a canadian girlfriend.

Oh, no southern...the girl is pressuring you to marry her? No, you can't do that. There are too many women and too little time to be just with the one! You know, you love them all, why settle for one? :)

southern , go on and buy her a ring :)

make it official..

I'm sorry if I offended you, after half an hour "chat" with my mum I'm shouldn't talk to other people for few hours, just in case ;)


Do you travel to other countries as well?
What I noticed while living in Wroclaw for a while, few years back, getting to know my friend's american bf and his friends... Foreigners seem to be more easy going, they are a kind of "novelty", with more positive self-esteem, they do have that air of holiday affair around them, exoticness - all that make them more attractive.

What funny jumping at foreigners it's a "speciality" of islanders or people living in remote/closed communities. While I was living in Iceland I've noticed that every half-decent looking foreigner could find a shag (is that correct? to find a shag?) easly. I've been told by one icelandic uni teacher as much - it's a "speciality" of islanders or people living in remote/closed communities.

Southy, if you like and love her why you feel uncomfortable with the marriage? The will to get married is a normal feeling for those who love each other. Unless you love her and use her only for bedtime there's a problem with you not with her.

I don't think it's necessarily just Polish girls... I think it is any girl from a religious background. They all have the romantic dream of meeting the perfect someone and settling down to have 100 children and a beautiful house (near the family). I think it can happen but is more of a rarity amongst the young. I know male friends of mine only a couple of years older than me who have settled down with a women in their early 20's and are now living to regret it. Their wives let themselves go (beauty is still very important to a man in his 20's, he doesn't want a fat wife!) and they miss the whole playing the field... Of course I'm generalising but i've seen it happen twice to close friends. So I think it's best not to get caught up whilst you are young with any woman who is pressurising you into marriage. I think I will look for a wife when I'm about 40 but who's to say I won't have grown up before then?! maybe...

i recommend north korea girl - very discipline and obedient

I would be very afraid of not following her instructions.

Yes! Marry her. And make her a baby....or better two

Feck that, run for the hills! Never look back :D

I don't think this is so much of an Iceland "speciality". What you are not used to is usually exotic (in one way or another). This effect is probably stronger in a remote community where you have seen the same kind of people your whole life, but I'm quite sure that it works like this everywhere.

I don't think it's a coincidence that people often have romances and more sex when they go abroad for vacations and stuff.

it's not only about Icelanders, it's about islanders (as in an island) :) Getting fresh genes, prolonging human kind and so on ;)

Aha sorry, I didn't read what you wrote carefully enough. Mankind should thank people who are enlarging the gene pools.. hehe. :)

And I think people often are attracted to what they are not used to. I guess they think more about that than the gene pool. ;)

Not only Polish for sure. However, there is a slightly higher need for stability here.

Im Polish and I'm not obsessed with getting married:)

:)


it's nature, doesn't involve thinking - after all we're animals (we use extremely complex tools, but still - we are animals) ;)

I don't agree completely. I will tell you why.

Yes, we are animals. Our biological instincts help us to make good choices from an evolutionary point of view. But the modern human makes a lot of choices that do not promote evolution. So evidently there must be more involved than just biological instincts. I would say that this is thinking and feeling in a much more complex way than other animals.

As far as I know we are the only animals that can do so complex thinking and feeling that it wins over the biological instincts. So I don't agree with you when you say that "it doesn't involve thinking".

Those organs down there work on hydraulic principles, you know. So naturally there is a lot of pressure once in a while. (btw. it's not a bone either)

:)
wow, I wish my English was as good as yours (or your Polish as good as mine ;)), to let me hold proper conversation :)


I think the point of evolution is time, "modern human" that's a lifetime for us but only miliseconds for evolution. Evolution has means to protect itself from our poor choices :)


of coure there is more to that than instincts! There're all that bits society and its groups dictates, bits we collect along the way by getting to know other cultures, other people, growing older - all thet can determine or change our choices. But try to think of people's behavior in unusual (for them) situations (desert island, war, to much alcohol for not-so-frequent-drinker, all-alone-in-foreign-country+language barrier, etc.), times when "the society" can't see them - and suddenly here you have them relying on instincts again and I think it's because instinct is in us (we like it or not, admit it or deny) and "society" it's something we easly pick up along the way and drop even easier :)


yes, and that's why pharmacies sell prosac by kilograms ;) (sorry - couldn't ressist)

Ever heard of that Eskimo hospitality thing? :)
google.com/search?q=eskimo+hospitality&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:pl:official&client=firefox-a

But all this is OT.
The OT i was interested in was


As much as I would like to say it's bullshit it is only part of the truth. The instinct tells us to pick up a partner that would be abble to give healthy offspring ("promoting evolution" and so on) and support while offspring is being rised. And it's not about money as such, it's about forethought, common sence, IQ etc.

Now I got myself into trouble :)

I agree, it's obvious that our instincts have been formed by evolution to promote survival of mankind. But it's also obvious that we today are less dependent on our instincts to survive (than, let's say, 10 000 years ago).

Today most people have strong bonds to the social environment they live in. I'm not going to start discussing sociological theories. But these social bonds definitely inhibit some of our biological instincts (please note that I wrote inhibit not erase or extinguish). This is a kind of social evolution, because the bonds to our social environment inhibits our instincts when they are bad for us. I think that this can be viewed as survival of fittest, but most fit for the social environment not for the biological environment.

We can also see that people from different cultures are looking for different kind of persons to date, have a nice time in bed (or wherever they think sex is most exciting) with. This differences can't be due to evolutionary mechanisms, because these cultures have existed too short period of time.

I had not heard about Eskimo hospitality, but I read a little now. And it's obvious that it's a behavior that promotes biological evolution (you have a good point here).

Maybe we can agree that both evolutionary and social factors play a great role in choosing partner.

And I will enjoy sex without lying there thinking of Darwin's natural selection. Even though the theory is interesting.

deal :)

I don't think that polish girls have obsession with marriage, bcs also polish guys want this and I think that just the same like girls. Polish people are traditional nation mostly and marriage is one of tradition. I see what is going around me so I may say this certainly. Also marriage is something sure, bcs you think about home nest, kids, common life. You don't think about other girls/guys, parties, freedom, generally, so maybe for some people this can be inconvenient. Seems that for author of this thread too. And seems that he need more time to understand what is really worthy in life. Also maybe he didn't meet right girl, if he will find, he will start to think about this. Life is too short to think and wonder why is this and that. If you meet right girl/guy you know what you want and your future is more clear for you, bcs you have someone with who you want share your life, now and in autumn of your life. There is nothing worse than to be alone when you really need someone.. And wife/husband will understand you more than anyone else and will be always on your side.

Human is this beeing that makes pairs. Such is nature which is hard to cheat. Some people wants it faster, some later, but everyone earlier or later wants it, no matter of sex and nation.