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Why my Polish girlfriend's mother started to ignore me?


Rakky  9 | 217  
10 Nov 2007 /  #31
I have paid for her to go back to poland for detox so I am not to blame!!!

That might be why her Mom is upset. Parents often don't want to be confronted with their children's problems first-hand. Some feel it is an indictment of them that their child isn't "perfect." You put this back in her face, so, since she can't display anger at her daughter, she's displacing it to you.

On the other hand, she might think you're "dumping" her daughter on her, rather than taking care of her yourself. Or maybe she blames YOU for her problem - heaven knows it can't be HER child's fault. My parents always blamed my friends for all of our problems and troubles - again, displacement.

Give it time. The Mom and your girlfriend have a lot to work out between them before you can be brought back into the picture. She's detoxing - it might be time for you to find a support group for yourself. Check with your local Narcotics Anonymous groups to see if they can refer you to a group for friends and families of drug addicts. If you don't take care of yourself, you'll be a lot less useful to her.
_Sofi_  
10 Nov 2007 /  #32
I have paid for her to go back to poland for detox so I am not to blame!!!

just a little worried I may have been used

do you mean for your money? And that that might be why your gf's mother is ignoring you? Can you give no more specifics?

Have you tried to see if there are any English speakers at the clinic?
randompal  7 | 306  
10 Nov 2007 /  #33
what a strabge story! what kind of drugs is she taking?
miranda  
10 Nov 2007 /  #34
It would be good if you could visit her there and that way not be dependant on her mother for the info.
OP svenski64  
10 Nov 2007 /  #35
W

what a strabge story! what kind of drugs is she taking?

The worst kind,heroin and crack,found out today she has discharged herself before treatment finished so she will still be sick in mornings etc.Thankyou to everyone here for their thoughts.
randompal  7 | 306  
10 Nov 2007 /  #36
The worst kind,heroin and crack

agree, the worst kinds all right...
starchild  2 | 120  
10 Nov 2007 /  #37
so she will still be sick in mornings etc.

This is an odd thing to say. Being sick in the mornings is the least of her worries and why the morning? What makes you think that is when the withdrawal symptoms kick in? Its not the same as being pregnant.

Like I said, if this is for real, the sickness is the least of your worries as she'll find the most simplest of ways to cure that.
tomekcatkins  8 | 130  
10 Nov 2007 /  #38
Jeez pal! Good luck! You're a really good friend to help her to get off those drugs. - But keep in mind that mostly it's a life sentence. I know stories of former addicts who where clean for some years and then started again. So look good after her in the future!
Patrycja19  61 | 2679  
11 Nov 2007 /  #39
The worst kind,heroin and crack,found out today she has discharged herself before treatment finished so she will still be sick in mornings etc.Thankyou to everyone here for their thoughts.

she might think you have something to do with it, I would try to tell her otherwise,
sometimes assumptions are made. mothers dont like to think that their children are
capable of doing such harm to themselfs and that they brought them up right, so they
tend to blame others.. maybe you need to sit and talk with her. and send her mom
some roses or something like a basket as a peace offering, saying I wish we could go
back in time when she was well.

moms have hearts.. its just hurt right now by all the issues at hand.. very hard issue
so at least that is what I would do.
Mufasa  19 | 357  
11 Nov 2007 /  #40
The worst kind,heroin and crack,found out today she has discharged herself before treatment finished

You know that the first thing she'll do is go look for a fix, hey?

You obviously love her, but I think you should take Rakky, our favourite mushroom's advice. Go look after yourself, or you'll be desroyed with her.

She's detoxing - it might be time for you to find a support group for yourself. Check with your local Narcotics Anonymous groups to see if they can refer you to a group for friends and families of drug addicts. If you don't take care of yourself, you'll be a lot less useful to her.

a1makji  
11 Nov 2007 /  #41
take the woman to some buddist temple in burma they have efficent tetoxing programs there make you drink beetle juce from worms and flys and crap till you puke up for two weeks non stop monks on a mission
Wroclaw Boy  
11 Nov 2007 /  #42
This is an odd thing to say. Being sick in the mornings is the least of her worries and why the morning? What makes you think that is when the withdrawal symptoms kick in? Its not the same as being pregnant.

I believe Slinsky is referring to cold turkey an extremely uncomfortable sickness which all addicted herion users have to experience when not taking heroin or methadone.

I would suggest keeping your girlfriend in Poland as long as possible, of course hard drugs exist here but from what i know there not that easy to get a hold of. It seems that everyman and his dog is selling cocaine or harder drugs in the UK these days.
starchild  2 | 120  
11 Nov 2007 /  #43
I know exactly what he was refering to, but to me, the way he put 'being sick in the morning etc' makes me think he doesn't really know anything about heroin addiction.

Thats what I meant. I am sceptical. It sounds like someone speaking who has only seen an addict going cold turkey on the TV or in films. Anyone who has witnessed first hand, ie been with them day and night, an addict going cold turkey will know that its not a morning thing. Watching someone go cold turkey is harrowing.

Edit.. sorry if that sounds like I'm biting your head off Wroclaw boy! I just don't quite believe this thread and it's touching a raw nerve for me.
OP svenski64  
11 Nov 2007 /  #44
Starchild,I witnessed this for 3 weeks on a daily basis,physically sick,shaking,cold,pale,unable to stand up without a "fix" 1st,so please dont insult me
starchild  2 | 120  
11 Nov 2007 /  #45
I'm not insulting you, but you need to read what you have written.

Three weeks is nothing... come back in ten years and tell me how you feel then. I'm serious.

I can tell you that every day I fear that phone call.. every single day

All I am saying is if you are for real and this is the situation for your gf then I would be far more worried if she will still be here tomorrow than whether she's sick in the morning. Honestly, this is what I have worried about every day for ten years.
Wroclaw Boy  
16 Nov 2007 /  #46
Thats what I meant. I am sceptical. It sounds like someone speaking who has only seen an addict going cold turkey on the TV or in films. Anyone who has witnessed first hand, ie been with them day and night, an addict going cold turkey will know that its not a morning thing. Watching someone go cold turkey is harrowing.

No: 1 award for i aint got a clue what im talking about.
southern  73 | 7059  
16 Nov 2007 /  #47
Maybe you did not kiss her as good as her daughter.
starchild  2 | 120  
16 Nov 2007 /  #48
No: 1 award for i aint got a clue what im talking about

Are you suggesting I don't know what I'm talking about? If you are, then you truly are a fool.

Ask the creator of this thread if I know what I'm talking about or not, you pr*ck!
Wroclaw Boy  
16 Nov 2007 /  #49
Are you suggesting I don't know what I'm talking about? If you are, then you truly are a fool.

Ahh yeh I think I am, what do you know? lets have it
starchild  2 | 120  
16 Nov 2007 /  #50
I'm not going to take the bait.
Wroclaw Boy  
16 Nov 2007 /  #51
If you know what you are talking about you would say. All you can say is that you have worried about something for 10 years. Thats it what experience do you have with drug addicts other than they dont experience morning sickness, in your own words.
starchild  2 | 120  
16 Nov 2007 /  #52
My comments were to the author of this thread and we have discussed it at length, but not on this thread.

If you feel that you need to throw insults and b*tchy comments at someone, then fine, why not give it to me? Someone's gonna get it so it may as well be me.
southern  73 | 7059  
16 Nov 2007 /  #53
Morning sickness is a typical symptom of pregnancy.It is not a symptom of heroin withdrawal.In the latter symptoms appear usually in evening starting about 24 hours after last dose and peaking after 3 days.
covkid65  2 | 39  
16 Nov 2007 /  #54
Message to southern...she aint pregnant!!And message to wroclaw boy,Starchild KNOWS what she is talking about,end of!
southern  73 | 7059  
16 Nov 2007 /  #55
I will read the whole topic.

You should have noticed the injection marks on her hands and legs.Unless she sniffs heroin.The best is to get her methadone through rehabilitation programm and check her for hepatitis,HIV.
covkid65  2 | 39  
16 Nov 2007 /  #56
I should have been a little more specific about "morning sickness".I was referring to when she wakes,be it morning,afternoon or evening,after sleeping for up to 24 hours without "chasing the dragon" she has shakes,shivers,cant move and physically sick-only feels better after a fix.....she is trying to get help but we both realise its an uphill task and not a short term thing.

she DOES NOT inject-I can guaruntee that,maybe a common misconception about heroin use,she smokes it only from silver foil
southern  73 | 7059  
16 Nov 2007 /  #57
Chasing the dragon is one of the most powerful addiction routes.Withdrawal symptoms can be very severe in this case.
southern  73 | 7059  
16 Nov 2007 /  #59
Through crack she will develop depression in one-two years.Crack is the most addictive stimulant,a lot more addictive and dangerous than cocaine.She may get high blood pressure,myocardial infarction or brain hemorrhage.You should measure her blood pressure.And try to have some methadone pills and hypnotics for withdrawal symptoms.
Wroclaw Boy  
16 Nov 2007 /  #60
she DOES NOT inject-I can guaruntee that,maybe a common misconception about heroin use,she smokes it only from silver foil

How the hell do you know shes not injecting? how can you be so sure?

I bet she is injecting its the natural progresson of the diseas

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