Divorced Polish women

There are many people who adopt another man's kids and another woman's kids. And a guy who sires his own kids does not make him a more real man than a guy who adopts someone elses kids. But is the guy mature, ready and responsible enough to become a father?

Haha... can I have dogs instead please? I'm not keen on cats!

I haven't met a man yet who didn't want to date me/have a relationship with me because I have kids. Maybe I've just been lucky!

again, I am married.. more then 10 years.. husband standing next to me thinking
your a jerk

.(quote=Foreigner4] not that i disagree with your sentiment but that's such a silly way to say it, we could just switch the words dad and father and come up with the same thing, it's hardly an arguement on its own. [/quote]

ok, maybe i was so angry i said it wrong...

anyone can father a child, but it takes a real man to be a dad...

yes, to me this makes alot of sense, because there are alot of deadbeat ( animals)
if you will who run around getting women pregnant, then leave..

then marek comes along saying I and a bunch of other guys agree that we dont
want someone else's baggage, well then i say, keep your pecker in your pants

it takes two to tango, but again , like you said there are situations beyond our
control and hes making it sound like men are repulsed and these women and
children are nothing /meaning less ... baggage, but in reality, it could have been
his own mother who was widowed at some point and would he feel like baggage
as a child ??? WTF... grow up

his problem not mine


good for him.


im not hate full, im just blunt, some people are just to stupid to see the difference


you know it all now dont you.


lol, women dont seem to mind my attitude at all, then again, the ones i maybe seeing have never had kids and do agree with my attitude.

hmmm, you missed the point. It is just a poor arguement no matter how you switch the words.

why get so antsy about an internet forum anyhow? So he writes what he thinks, big deal, it's not like what he's saying is true just cause he says it's so.

The sad fact of the matter is that to many single men, the idea of an unmarried woman with children is that of one who will at least "put out." Maybe it's a lack of empathy or introspection or even just not attaching a "face" to the concept but that is how many single guys feel.

*edited* unfortunately

good for us both.. I dont need to say anymore, you said it all ..

The sad fact of the matter is that to many single men, the idea of an unmarried woman with children is that of one who will at least "put out." Maybe it's a lack of empathy or introspection or even just not attaching a "face" to the concept but that is how many single guys feel.

yes I know there are plenty of men who feel this way.. one of them is my
husbands best friend.. hes still living at home with his mother, still drinks /smokes
and comes over here and there.. no children, and says the same things. I want
a woman with no children.. yet hes been saying this for about 10 years or more..

again, examples show alot.. its by choice of course.. and I guess your right.. its
his opinion and he is entitled to it..

I only say what I say because I feel its necessary to point out that some instances
cannot be controlled or helped.. fathers leaving, fathers dying etc.. so a child should
not be thought of as baggage, or should that statement ever be heard from by a
child. its hard enough for a child to face issues of their fathers leaving for whatever
reasons or being hateful and spitful towards children by referring to them as baggage.. I dont know if marek grew up in a hateful setting. but it appears hes lost

something in his life that makes him so bitter..

I wont change my views on how I feel. he dont have to change his. nor do you.
so with that.. good luck.

god forbid anybody here speak their mind, they are called hate full


pay attention to what the other men in this thread posted, im not alone in my stance, you just refuse to believe it.

Just to point out that the thread is about divorced Polish women with kids and we may have slipped in to just talking about divorced women with kids in general.

As the first responders pointed out, as Poland is a predominately Catholic country, it could be assumed that many Catholic men would not want to get involved with a divorced woman, couldn't it?

On the flip side, I have seen Polish men in the UK who behave differently over here, ie they would have a relationship with a divorced mother in the UK, but who would not do this in Poland, with the disapproving eye of their parents and local community, etc on them!

what about the baggage of the ex old man? that sometimes can be bigger then the baggage kids.

I read back . it started off with the real man post.. to which was taken a step further
I dont refuse to believe it, I know it happens, and thats why I made my statement
about real men, thats how US married women view real men, any man willing to take
on such responsibility is real, theres nothing fake about him, not everything is perfect
but you climb the obstacles together, if you accept someone, you accept everthing
or nothing..

and just to let you know, theres only maybe four agreements with you so thats not
all the men in poland ,and some of these guys live in America I think? so I would
say the only one who can say it is greg, but he is one of millions of polish men who
are catholic so I dont even think he is representing well on his own.. and I dont
really think that it matters truely if you find someone you really love, your going to see
past this as so many do..

what about the baggage of the ex old man? that sometimes can be bigger then the baggage kids.

your right too. because there are divorced parents who will never agree. and
in some cases that is a very large obstacle to over come.. one which is more
a worry for the divorced woman more so then the kids, because he poses a problem
to the new man..

but that goes with any ex boyfriend/husband.. you dont have to have kids
to have a crazy stalker on your hands.. good point PLK single women can have
this type of baggage too .. and it isnt their fault.. as can single men.

some things cannot be controlled or helped, you're right, and certainly those who are in those situations should never be encouraged to feel shame for that.

*sigh* i guess this is an obvious allusion to a difference of opinion we've had about a different topic, but it's looking at it from such a wide lense that the inticacies are difficult to identify.

he needs to get out more. there is no shortage of women, matter of fact there are more women in this world than men.


so name calling and such because people dont have the save view as your is necessary?


single people call it baggage, believe what you want to.


not all married women have your view.


true.


lol, your a doctor now, this is funny shitt.
i grew up in what a person would call a normal polish household.
we are all blunt and speak our minds. funny how when you dont agree with what i say im bitter, maybe your the one whos bitter. you were the one who first resorted to name calling, not me. thats very mature isnt it. a great mom you are for sure. then again, you have two kids by two different fathers, a prime example of damaged goods in most peoples eyes.

sry... tetas

sorry mate, i was following this one from the get go as when pt19 is involved insults are generally forth coming, but i checked way back to see where it came from and unless i suck at the internets then you dropped the first tirade of insults.

i agree with your lil assessment of her and have also been the target of her insults so this is very unbiased.

just sayin

you are man. the exwife thing still drives you freaking nuts. i'd venture a guess that this is semi recent past. just party on marek. :D

3 years ago was the ex wife thing. ive moved on to better things since then, believe what you want.


the real men comment that was directed at me started it off. i did not direct any of my replies to anyone before than.

that's semi recent and you just come across that way.. i am thinking i am not the only one thinking that here. i'm sure alright though. i'd be bitter myself for a while too.

mareks, well we'll agree to disagree but it's easy to get ticked at someone when they are so, uh, well you know.


naw he doesn't come across as bitter, he's blunt in how he feels, blunt like a hammer that can bash again'n'again'n'again until the first pieces of sk... well anyway, i'm just trying to liven up the place, argh it's saturday and i'm sick!!!

that's the part that makes me think that it's a little more then just blunt. :)

this is what I said ,, I agreed with you on the small percentage being willing to take
on this so called baggage as you put it.. then you fire up with


so you throw the stone, im supposed to sit here and take it ?
you made huge assumption and you have no idea about me from the start.
so its not ok for me to think you are bitter once you throw a stone?
I didnt direct that at you. if you took it personally, then you have issues..
I did come back at you once you came at me.. truth is, you dont know me,
so there for all your statements only show a bitter person in my opinion..

forieigner4.. yes we have had our run ins.. so your making assumption based on
his of what kind of person I am .. judging are we?

I was making a point as well. I think my point was understood.. plk I fogot to add
thank you..

also would like to add. that in my studies, i found many women who divorced
along my history finds and have re-married and had more then 6 children and had
6 more along with the new husbands all Polish and my grandfather was a step son
too, as when I found his manifest for him coming to America he was going to see his
step father who was already in the USA..

my grandmother remarried because her first husband was a alcoholic and never
brought home and money for food.. so she has two sets of children from two different
fathers. does this make her character and suggest what kind of woman she is because
she has children from two different men one being lesser the man because he let
alcohol lead his life. its her fault???

so your saying that because I have two different fathers ( not knowing the circumstance of my life) would suggest automatically that I am what???? not a good

mother or parent for that?? again.. throwing a stone, judging...

what on god's green earth were you trying to get at there?

post # 44

who started the whole real men comment? im a man unlike you and im rather real. not all men as you think are "real men"


how many times have you assumed with me?


so a person speaking his mind/point of view is bitter?
thats a rather closed view of the world if thats the case


so have judged others in different posts, so its o.k for you to judge yet not others??


if you can judge, why cant others?


above is how i am in real life, i tell it like it is and do not sugar coat.

Why are you taking that comment so personal?
I specified that it wasnt directed at you , and you go on and on like it was.

no one else but you has actually taken it personal..

above is how i am in real life, i tell it like it is and do not sugar coat. (quote)

and I am also blunt and to the point and my comment is to the point.. I dont
sugar coat either..

so how is it then when im blunt you call me bitter yet its o.k for you to speak your mind?

read post # 23...

thats not being blunt.. its actually attacking me, which in my opinion is bitter.
I didnt say nothing of your personal life, nor assumed anything at that point
so if you cant see it.. then maybe thats whats holding you back.. cause its
simple.. Ive explained myself over and over and I dont get into this psych
blame ****.. I know what I said, you know what you said.. if you expect an
apologie from me , its not going to happen...

I posted in a thread.. you took it personal.. you attacked, I attacked back.
simple... forie 4 saw it. plk saw it and you just arent willing to admit it..
Plk called you bitter too. your not all over him. why not?? cause he is a guy?
why arent you giving him the third degree about it??

you quote me then say above, thats personal.
implying that men not willing to take on others problems are lacking or what?
i guess it safe to say we have differing views as to whats a real man.

as for plk123 i replied to him.

yup and i am not beating it to death. :D besides marek s hasn't been bitter in this thread anyway. blunt, fo sho. :D :D

If you meet someone you like there shouldn't be looked at if theyr divorced or have children, if you love someone and are a real man and the person you love is divorced and has a child just take your responsability..

Annyway I don't see what problems some men might have with a women with children unless they swear never to get kids of theyr own..

But oh well it's sad to see some fellow men reactions in here
just let me remind everyone has problems, and in a relation or when you love someone it's natural to help eatchother out..

or am I "o" so wrong here?

simple, why deal with somebody elses kids