Homosexuals in Poland / Hands off (PETITION)

aha... that would be the infamous polish dichotomy...

bubawoo,can you say dichotamy,seems a bit gay to me :)

"Children are only possible with the normal relationship. "
So test tube babies etc are "abnormal" come on,that comes across so old fashioned as to be almost unbelivable. Who says sex outside marraige is not natural,seems one of the basic most natural things in the world to me,and any way,who's idea of "marrage "are we all supposed to sign up to,just as I wont listen to some ranting beardy arab telling me how I should live my life ,no man in a dress is going to lecture me on morals or what is right for sociaty,these same people claim that raped women should be forced to keep their unborn children and will not allow any form of protection during sex leading inocent women to catch aids from unfaithfull husbands all across the globe, how many more millions of children are going to be allowed to die in the name of a perverted version of Jesus teachings adopted by the pagen roman empire as a tool of represion and only slightly changed in its present form.

Come on people,have a little faith in yourselfs,a Pope didnt free you from communism,you did that yourself.
TE lawrence liked it up the bum and he freed the arab nations
Alexandor the Great was a bit twinkle toed and he did all right for himself
Ive worked with gay men and lesbian women since I was probably about 13 and I can assure you,Ive not caught any gayness from them,well maybe a slight flair for interior design,not :)

k,

no. but need parts of male and female... not male male, or female female.


did i say it? but humans live in society (not like animals). perhaps it would be better to follow certain social values as a human. afterall you can only expect these from humans, like wearing cloth, eating cooked food, etc.


neither will i


why you marry such men? on impulse? craze? , choosing is important.


i know.


roman-catholicism in my view is not true christianity.

i have no idea if you can say dichotamy and it might well be a bit gay to do so... you would have to ask Wyspianska as she is the forum authority on all things gay :)

Im not sure if the UK should be in this list because although the death penalty was abolished many years ago and the last to be executed was in 1965,You can still in the UK be hanged for treason.

But i think if that happened today,there would be an uproar of protests.


Maybe these expression and views are influenced by religion and the beliefs of what religion dictates and im certain it is the cause of wars and i feel it will stir up all types of trouble if a certain says its wrong or bad.

Other countries are in a similar postition.
One example is the Philipines where they keep shanging their mind about it.


Anyway, I might be a shoe fetishist.
Do I need medical treatment?

no you need a blacksmith

ROFLMHO!
My ASBO doesn't allow me within 500m of the local smithy.

so find a different blacksmith

phsychological treatment starts from the point you realise that you are doing something that is not normal, or considered normal in the social structure globally. making someone cultured or giving sense of manners and humanity is also a phsychological treatment

waht the fuc* is normal in the end ?

first we all can have diverse opinion :).
second, normalcy is the way people behave to maintain a healthy society with social values that gives security to people and children, a good upbringing... clean living, and etc. for this you must read and learn, ask yourself unbiased.

i would'nt say 'normalacy' is the way people behave to maintain a heathy society but it is the how the general population EXPECT people to behave (whether it be positive or negative) and anything different is not 'the norm'.

Variety over normalcy for me every time.
No matter how gentle the hand of corercion is, it is still the insidious hand of coercion.
I'm not gay, but I defend the right for other people to be.
I often have a different outlook to other people - unusual tastes in music and films. I don't buy my food from supermarkets. I used to have long hair instead of the usual short. So should I have been guided to a life of 'normalcy'?

Cutting your hair isn't natural, neither are supermarkets, so don't use the 'natural' argument with me.

well when was the last time you saw hay in a supermarket?

I like the flippancy angle there.
Look near the plastic and paper cups. You will find straw(s).

and where is your coercion here? anyone saying something different than what you want to hear is coercion to you, so sad...


that is normal .. people can have different choices.

slaughtering someone for his/her religion, race or raping a woman for having sex ... or sexually abusing a child, or walking naked in a public place ... ofending people and deep rooted norms are abnormal. madness is abnormal... mad people are abnormal. there are rehabs there for a reason!!

homosexuality is not crime, but it is an illness, like alcoholicism, drug or any other which is unhealthy and undesirable in a society with moral standards.

so is homosexuality. What is NOT normal is being against something that (unless you are homosexual yourself) does not affect you

Is anal intercourse a normal behavior in humans or animals?...I don't think so...what
consenting adults do in the privacy of the bedroom should stay there, and not be advertised/propagated as an 'alternative' lifestyle...there is a reason 'private' parts are called private...and children should not be taught that this is an 'acceptable' lifestyle or

a 'celebrtion of diversity'...this is common sense...this also goes for certain heterosexual behavior...the over-emphasis of sex in a culture is indicative of what the 'psychoanalysts' would call a 'psychopathology'.

if you have a kid with a learning disability what would your reaction be???????

Bestiality is not consensual.
Neither is pederasy.

Intimidating people into conforming within strict limits that are not natural for humankind is something people have been fighting against for a long time. To allow people to be themselves, you can't go telling them there is something wrong with them and they need 'curing'.

I can't believe I'm still arguing in this thread.
Sofi was right when she said:

but you can't choose who you fall in love with, this seems to be something that a lot of homophobes forget. gay, straight or bi, does it really matter? I don't think so.

No, not certain heterosexual behaviour - if it's 'all' with homosexual then it should be the same as with heterosexual. If it is not normal behaviour in animals and humans then there are so many abnormal people out there, not not mention dogs etc. To say it is advertised in any way is riciculous - perhaps refelcted in shows etc. since it happens to be a part of what we call life. Why should it not be shown? What difference does it make to anyone if it is or not? Surely heterosexuals do not imagine they themselves will be 'turned' watching it - if this is not a 'worry' as such - why should it not be expressed in television/papers/magazines (cartoons - Teletubbies...wtf) as a heterosexual relationship can be expressed? If you don't want to see whatever you think is propaganda, then shut your eyes - nobody is asking you to look. It's not an illness, how backward that thought is...

that's the most disgusting and derogatory thing I've ever heard in my life.

One final comment from me: the current US Ambassador to Poland is Victor Ashe, who is
a homosexual...he was a close friend of Georege W.Bush at Yale University, and it has
been reported that they were lovers, continuing their affair even during his term in the
White House...now, this Victor Ashe had a rather sordid political 'career' in the US &
there are rumors that he was making noise about 'outing' his relationship with Bush...
so Bush made him Ambassador to Poland to get him out of the spotlight...says something about Bush's attitute toward Poland.

sounds like a load of hear'say

Well i think if we didnt live in the dark ages and not be indoctornated by negative religious nonesense,then we can be more undertanding.

If being gay is not for you,then that is your decision i respect that.But whether its because its the unknown that makes you uncomfortable,it doesnt mean im bad or evil or something that should be wiped off the "face of the earth".

mind you,i thought gay pride really made it worse....well im certainly nothing like they were acting.

You get good and bad in all walks of life.
There are some people dont like the Polish and say some unpleasant remarks but i dont jump on the band wagon cos i think those that do are arseholes.I jugde someone on what they are as a person,not of there gender,sexual preference or what country there from and if they are loud " in your face" types and make me feel uneasy? i just tell them what i think.

I really do think if you would of met me,you would see im not something you are lead to believe.....but im just speaking for myself and i dont like you descriminating me like this.

But if you just want to think the worse,then im just wasting my time.

exactly what this is!!! this war against homosexuals is born from religion and the scripts and stories of bored men with good imaginations!!!

It's time to wake up and smell the coffee its not the homosexuals that are doing poland harm its the RELIGION that is ravaging it

well it could be....for example i could write a big thick book with a nice cover and if i wrote it in a way that made a strong but influential impact....thousands of years on it would be a seller !!!!

exactly :)