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BubbaWoo 33 | 3,506  
23 Aug 2007 /  #181
i think you missed my point
_Sofi_  
23 Aug 2007 /  #182
Once the Playground Bullies Decide you are different because you are homosexual..??

Why would teaching that it is normal to be heterosexual orhomosexual make bullies decide to bully homosexuals - if anything you are making a point against yourself, for would teaching the youths it is acceptable to be either not teach them that they are not different? I don't see any sense in what you say there at all...

Are you going to Give the Thugs more stones to throw by making them unsure about there own sexuality or Indivduality..?

Why should thugs question this - who here has proposed teaching people to be homosexual? Did I miss that post? It has already been said - you cannot make somebody gay or straight!

sofi, excuse me for saying this but your a top bird :) putting what I posted earlier into far more gracefull posts

How could i object to that? =p Thing is, it is a pity we have to repeat our points because the same senseless arguments are being made...

They ARE Being who they are.. Children.

Is it right to steal that from them..?
Dont they have the right to choose..?

Of course! But this point does not really contribute to the thread at all does it? For this applies to all sex education, nothing to do with homosexuality nor heterosexuality, both must be involved. If you are teaching a child the facts of life, then of course there are limits as to what age to tell them, what should be told, but this is completely another issue as far as I'm concerned and nothing to do with sexual preference!

the 45 year old man can not be responsible for his
actions because 'he is just different', with 'alternative' tastes...Rozumieć?

No... why paedophilia is even mentioned in this thread is beyond me, I'm afraid. As Osiol pointed out several times, have you not learned about consensual sex? Paedophiles can be straight or homosexual, that is nothing to do with their perverted actions and I'm surprised you even thought of it at all in your argument. Someone here said most are homosexual, unless all of them are - how can a link even be proposed? Especially since it is such a miniscule minority of homosexuals who are knwon to be paedophiles!

Understand this: Homosexuality is a choice, just like everything else in life..

Trust me, if it was, I'd be a lesbian just to pi*s off people like yourself who express such antiquated views. Thing is, I know it's not a choice. This notion in itself is enough to tell me to accept that your view will not be changed.
Firestorm 6 | 400  
23 Aug 2007 /  #183
The EU resolution condemned the Polish government and critized the Polish Prime Minister for saying that “promoting a homosexual lifestyle to young people in school as an alternative to normal life goes too far, and that these kinds of initiatives in schools have to be stopped.”

I Simply agreed that school wasnt the right place to teach children.

And my point was lost, Im guessing it was missunderstood.
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,506  
24 Aug 2007 /  #184
I Simply agreed that school wasnt the right place to teach children.

hmmm... ok...
OP Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,149  
24 Aug 2007 /  #185
For this applies to all sex education, nothing to do with homosexuality nor heterosexuality, both must be involved.

What about transsexualists, zoophiles etc. ? Don't tell me that they should be discriminated...
Amathyst 19 | 2,702  
24 Aug 2007 /  #186
Mr G I hear that there is a float with your name on it this weekend in Manchester :p
Firestorm 6 | 400  
24 Aug 2007 /  #187
a float with your name on it this weekend in Manchester

Would that be the Gaily Decorated one.? ( LOL )
_Sofi_  
24 Aug 2007 /  #188
transsexualists,

Nothing wrong with them - they bring no harm to others whatsoever, so what is the problem with them?

zoophiles

This is ridiculous, zoophilia is perversion because it is the rape of animals i.e not consensual. This is a completely different matter - start up a petition against this and I will be of the first to sign

And my point was lost, Im guessing it was missunderstood

If your point was lost, perhaps that is because you made many others with it. If you read back on what you have posted, then you will see you said more than this solitary point. I do not believe you were misunderstood, as you were given responses to your point, perhaps you misunderstand our answers?
Amathyst 19 | 2,702  
24 Aug 2007 /  #189
Would that be the Gaily Decorated one.? ( LOL )

Oh it most certainly is :)) I'll be watching out for Mr G tomorrow :)))
isthatu 3 | 1,164  
24 Aug 2007 /  #190
Zoophiles, wasnt that the programe where Jonny Morris made silly voices for the animals?
ArturSzastak 3 | 593  
24 Aug 2007 /  #191
homo union...

I'm sorry everyone but that just made me laugh. You've got to give him an "A+" for creativity. :]
Zgubiony 15 | 1,553  
24 Aug 2007 /  #192
Nothing wrong with them

Except for them chopping of their parts :/
ArturSzastak 3 | 593  
24 Aug 2007 /  #193
I really didn't need to know that. I felt pain when I read that.... :[
_Sofi_  
24 Aug 2007 /  #194
Except for them chopping of their parts :/

it's their parts to chop off
Zgubiony 15 | 1,553  
24 Aug 2007 /  #195
IMO...There's sth psychologically wrong with you if you have to alter your body in such an extreme fashion. There's nothing wrong with being gay, but this is a bit overboard.

And yes, it's their parts and sth they'll have to live with, but the point was that theres sth wrong with them mentally. And I know they aren't threat to society, but to themselves. I'm not against it, but it's just not right to do.
_Sofi_  
24 Aug 2007 /  #196
I'm not against it, but it's just not right to do.

...for you
isthatu 3 | 1,164  
24 Aug 2007 /  #197
Who on this earth has the moral authority to say what is right and wrong for individuals,as long as no harm is commited against others what is wrong with freedom. Those who are repulsed are normally so through fear ,what is there to be afraid of if "Greg" wants or should have been"Gina" or whether "Mark" and "John" live together or Mark and jane?

Nothing is contagious,you wont catch it you know, I worked for years in "theatrical" circles and have never once felt the urge to either go with another man or alter my plumbing.

k.
btw,they dont "chop them off" they slit them open,take out the b***s then tuck whats left inside...........god they show some crap on british TV lol
misiek  
24 Aug 2007 /  #198
I was always neutral but its just impossible,cause its not about tolerance..

First it starts with 'tolerance' , then legalized partnership, then marriages and finally adopotion of children and their brain wash in preschools (spain) that daddy (Mark) mummy (John) is ok...

Unfortunatelly in most of UE (in particular UK) minorities got the most to say.

In Poland we are one the first stage and I hope we will always stay on it.

Regards
Frank 23 | 1,183  
24 Aug 2007 /  #199
School is not the place for this.

Nor is school the place to fill childrens heads full of religious supertitious nonsense....but its still happening!

The word tolerance is merely a verbal excuse to not include or understand.......
OP Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,149  
24 Aug 2007 /  #200
First it starts with 'tolerance' , then legalized partnership, then marriages and finally adopotion of children and their brain wash in preschools (spain) that daddy (Mark) mummy (John) is ok...

And that's not the end. Did you hear about the party of pedophiles in Holland ?
_Sofi_  
24 Aug 2007 /  #201
Did you hear about the party of pedophiles in Holland

what are paedophiles to do with your thread at all?
misiek  
24 Aug 2007 /  #202
And that's not the end. Did you hear about the party of pedophiles in Holland ?

I even heard about some agreements between them and ... radical islamist in past elections...

It looks like in term of our political situation, we are still far behind Holland :)

Regards
OP Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,149  
24 Aug 2007 /  #203
what are paedophiles to do with your thread at all?

This is simply the next stage.
misiek  
24 Aug 2007 /  #204
what are paedophiles to do with your thread at all?

Mabe he ment, that everything can be normal,question of time :)

Regards
_Sofi_  
24 Aug 2007 /  #205
This is simply the next stage

The next stage of what? Paedophilia is nothing to do with homosexuality.

...

If you mean that you think the next thing people will be trying to make acceptable( I hope you do not), then why would you think so? They are not related issues? Why do people ignore the difference between consensual sex and that which is forced (as paedophila is)?
OP Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,149  
24 Aug 2007 /  #206
The next stage of what?

Aren't you enough enlightened to know that this the next stage of the "progress of mankind" ?
_Sofi_  
24 Aug 2007 /  #207
Apparantly not - and what enlightens you to this? What are you basing it on? Who do you actually think has the idea that this would be counted as 'progress of mankind'?
misiek  
24 Aug 2007 /  #208
Associate with reality too much (even if right ),can make a man fool in others eyes ..

Regards
OP Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,149  
24 Aug 2007 /  #209
What are you basing it on?

Just look how the world is changing.
_Sofi_  
24 Aug 2007 /  #210
can make a man fool in others eyes ..

can make you a....

Just look how the world is changing.

This is very vague, please answer my post properly.

What chages do you find? People are becoming more acceptable to things that should have been accepted all along? This is how I see the changes. Tell me what you see

Associate with reality too much (even if right ),can make a man fool in others eyes ..

by the way - there's a 'post your favourite quotes' thread..

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