Polish Integration with other Nationalities

Am I missing the point, is it not just a matter of who you fancy?
I admit that a culture difference can make life difficult and some people are incapable of getting over certain issues in the other's culture.

But surely in Manchester everyone was brought up sharing the same culture?.
I think I have lost the plot, it is very simple for me. I have dated girls that I fancy from different parts of the world.

And as for the scaremongering of Simon Mol and Iranian guys. Are you incapable of seeing the false logic you are using? Simon Mol = black. black = Simon Mol character.


I couldn't agree more.

Here is the genius of TOMEK:
All Simon Mols are black(as it happens there is but one Simon Mol, he is black, so the premise is true.)

Therefore

All blacks are Simon Mol.

If that's how you view things then why don't you and I meet up and have a drink? I'm black, but my name is - Jonathan L! If that's how you view things then you failed a basic IQ test question that I know I got right.


Good to hear guy named TOMEK support Nazi ideology, so you support the kind of thinking that led to mass extermination among Poles? If your philosophy takes hold around the world, then you, your family and friends, my friend, will be among the first to go.

So Tomek is apparently completely ignorant as to these facts:

1 - While this Simon Mol guy may have spread Aids like an @$$hole, Whites do the same thing every day in various ways. in 1993, The German department of health fired two senior officials who tried to cover up a fiasco involving HIV infected blood transfusion. Estimates of the number of people infected ranged from 300-1000+

query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F0CE1DD153CF933A25753C1A965958260

Charles Hadfield was a white man convicted for the criminal transmission of HIV to other women.

A dentist named Dr. David J. Acer was also guilty of the same crime.

Giovanni Mola was tried for infecting his ex-girlfriend with HIV. However, he infected many more as he might have bedded 200 women, and aggressively refused to use condoms.

But regardless of this, it's just common sense that HIV is passed among whites the same way that it is passed among blacks. So should Polish girls refrain from sex with other whites?

2. Tomek is also ignorant to the fact that his "pure blood" philosophy marched its way to Poland and lead to a serious attempt at eliminating the Polish race.

3. We have to assume that Tomek doesn't know that many blacks live in Europe and do fine braving the winters. I lived in Switzerland for 10 years and skiied quite often, New York is even colder in the winter than Switzerland, and all the blacks there do fine.

He did it, not his race.


What makes you think I was defending him?


And that's saying something.


Aye!

Most white men arent quite as keen on black/indian women as some white women seem to be on black/indian men. If white guys like girls who arent white they tend to be oriental girls.

But I fancy all women, although perhaps oriental ones just slightly less.

I like them black girls
I like them white girls
I like them Asian girls
I like them mixed race girls
I like them Spanish girls
I like them Italian girls
I like the French girls
And I like Scandinavian girls
I like them tall girls
I like them short girls
I like them brown hair girls
I like them blonde hair girls
I like them big girls
I like them skinny girls
I like them carrying a little bitty weight girls

Unfortunately the wife doesn't quite see it this way....

Do not put words in my mouth. I did make the difference clear - Simon Mol did commit a racial hate crime. You can't compare it to any white idiot who infects white girls. You are just angry beeing wrong in the whole area - next you will call me having fear of the whole foreigners taking away our women. Well I am not, since I'm a beautifull boy and allready educated some girls to never go black.

About national socialism: I am a Polish nationalist and I respect those Germans worth beeing respected. The idea of pure blood is older than national socialism though - in Poland you are born instinctive with a sympathy towards your own people.

The differences between the Third Reich and the First Polish Republic were mostly nationalistic and revisionistic. Racial issues were deducted therefrom and enforced upon the public. There were paralels and still are between Germans and Poles. Piłsudski was a hard leader as well and part of the anti-bolshewik union. In my eyes slavic tribes are in some aspects ahead of their nordic counterparts, if the nordic ones see themselfes ahead in some aspects as well - well ok, this is a basis for a good friendship, we can work together.


At least the asian-white offsprings tend to be more inteligent than black-whites. But it is wrong as well, as they will be hardly accepted in any society, especially in Korea or Japan.

Although there is a nice girl at the local Chinese takeaway.

Have you turned 30 yet? I didnt like oriental women at all till I turned 30. I think this is when the Ting-Tong lovin' gene kicks in. The 'sex tourism' gene comes a few years later I believe.

Another flash of genius from Tomek!

Warsaw for example, is pretty liberal, liberal enough that even though people may stare at me in the streets, and some moronic hooligans might taunt me, most of the average people are actually quite friendly once you get to know them, and seem eager to hear and see something different. So I think the blacks in Poland only "pull suspicion" over themselves in the eyes of the true bigots, (skinheads, hooligans, many senior citizens perhaps?) but the general mass of people are quite fine.


HAHAHA! I thought you were worried that racism would lead to minorities feeling angry, thus developing anti-social behavior? So you advocate separation? You mean kicking out the minorities? What is this supposed to make the minorities happy? They'll be anti-social ten times worse, and then your peaceful country will have a nice little war on its hand, all because of stupid social engineering.

Any developped country will always have a small degree of immigrants, it's just a fact of life on earth. So to stamp out xenophobia and racial prejudice is a must, in order to avoid conflicts.

Nice

Just remember Tomek does not speak for all Germans.

I understand what you mean about Japan and Korea not 'accepting' having jap-korean/ european mixed people but I dont think its true in the US or Europe. Theres even some famous people who have this particular mixture. They tend to look pretty good too.

I know. Uncanny the similarity with noiimi don't you think. Both students. Both talking B*llocks

You didn't make the difference clear. And if he committed a racial hate crime, that's his problem, again, nothing to do with other black people. You're making a basic logical mistake, so you're just plain wrong, a fact which logic itself makes conclusive so that matter is closed.

However, where does it say that he committed a racial crime? He didn't want to purposely infect white women because he hates white women? He just wanted to have sex, it's a criminal act, but not classifiable as a hate-crime, otherwise they would have charged him for that in court. Perhaps you know something about his case I don't, otherwise we'll just have to assume that you're making stuff up.

And you're spiel about nationalism and all that does nothing for me and therefore has no force. What you're advocating is racial separation, thus leading to conflict along racial lines, thus bringing the prospect of genocidal calamities. Racial Integration seems to work against such evils, over time people learn to live together and prejudices become much weaker as they harmonize together. That's how I see it in New York, in Geneva, and in other interracial communities I've been to.

I mean it just seems that you don't know what you're talking about. You have crack-pot theories that would be fine if they made sense, but again, you just don't know what you're talking about.

like diplomates and highest educated scientists working on world-class projects. I can agree on that. Poles are still hospitable to foreigners - this unfortunately will turn once european multi-culti agenda is enforced.

Lol, so you wouldn't mind an african DIPLOMAT coming here? Why would they come here if all the africans are kicked out? Same with any other minority group you hate on so much.

But then what about all the middle class minorities that could come here and help pump some foreign cash in your economy? I came here with money I made in New York, and poured it all out in cash registers from Zamosc, to Lublin, to Warsaw. Tourism is vital to a country's economy.

I was never in New York, and though it is a rich city you still have a strong difference between the white inhabitated areas and the black ones. I know some people though who liked New York and call it the paradise for imigrants. Well it works so fine in some parts coz it is a rich city, the top-men of capitalism, arts and commerce. Only good looking minorities, like you seem to be one part of. I must not tell you, for me all ******** yuppies. You have places like New York, the whole USA, why do you want to enforce such conditions upon the whole world? Let us some place to live our life, because if you do not, well, this will lead to hostilities.

I would never want to live in such a melting pot like New York.

I am sure I don't have to point out statistics to you. I would not walk around head up in Harlem/Bronx as I can in Kraków.


Money comes - money goes. It's not the most important thing in live.

I would rather want to be a poor self-respecting peasant in an all white Poland than a rip-off businessman in New York.

Parts of Poland are hospitable to foreigners. Coming from a country which is renowned for its hospitality, I'd know. The Poles face a dilemma. There are those who don't want to integrate but get attacked for their 'ignorance' and those who do their utmost to mingle but get turned away for being 'Polaks'. This is hardly fair.

Well the black population is scattered throughout New York, so while the traditionally black neighborhoods are poor, many from those neighborhoods have already, and are still, leaving and settling throughout the city, not just the pretty ones. And while the Bronx is still a bit scary, Harlem has become a popular tourist destination for tons of white people, and many white students move there because the rent (used to be) cheaper. Of course in New York we have the equivalent of guys like you who seem to hate on different races, but that's the exception, not the norm.

I don't want to impose New York conditions upon the whole world. In fact I came to Poland because I wanted a break from New York, only to find that the place where I moved to, Warsaw's centrum, is just another capitalist bastion with modern buildings, etc (which beat the stereotype of Poland we have in New York.)

I would have liked to move to a smaller, more rural town, but the attitudes are too racist for me to bear. Why must it be so? I've been to ancient villages in south of France where the locals treated me kindly, same thing in Spain, Germany, and Switzerland (though it might have been because I was a boy then.) But here there is a very different attitude.

So while I don't want the whole world to look like New York, All I do wish for is for a degree of interracial/cultural accord...I just want some love for everyone!

And I know life isn't all about momney, don't twist my words. But an economically strong country is in your own interest as regards national defense and other things. You don't want to be crushed by your neighbors do you?

I doubt if you have ever laft your cave.
Ha ha ha ha, your a funny guy. I don't know why I bother.
Tomek, how do you know you would not want to live in NY? you said you have never been there.

The Republic of Osiołia is hospitable to all kinds of people. It's just that my expansionist dreams haven't come to anything yet. It's just one ground-floor flat and a garden. All are welcome, but any exhibition of dodgy racist tendencies, and you're out the door!

By the way, it's nothing like New York in here. Smoking is permitted. Although that lodger of mine seems determined to make his bedroom look like a slum. He's Polish though, so it must be alright.

Really? There is I think one family of blacks where I live and nobody seems to care, why would they. I am not black, but I would have thought that Polish people would be more curious than anything else and of course there will always be some idiots in every group. Why do you say this?

I've seen enough movies - and I prefer the countryside or if cities at all - I would rather go with historicaly intact ones. I like small Italian cities very much. I dislike the whole 100m towers.

You crack me up. Do you write your own material?

Because In Zamosc I've been taunted by the youth, and on the road from zamosc to Warsaw, whenever I stop at a gas station or something, people point at me and make me feel liike a circus freak more than in Warsaw. While I'm sure that in most of these places people go on with their lives without a care in the world about my skin color ,I think it is more likely that I will run into poor groups of indolent youths, with nothing better to do than harass me or beat me up for laughs. And also I forgot to mention that when I'm alone, things aren't too bad, but when I'm ith my girlfriend, a striking Polish national, then that's when young guys in my age group stat trouble.

Sounds bad.
But have you any pics of your girlfriend? she sounds lovely. I am just kidding about the girlfriend. You probably like a lot of us fell for a Polish girl and seen some opertunities here and wanted a change. And because you have more melanin in your skin you get hastle, that sucks.

actually it mostly muslims that do this, "the religion of peace and tolerance".
It is odd that their religion doesnt stop them going to prostitutes in Europe etc but somehow it stops giving women in their own countries the same rights as men have.

If you point this you get labeled as rascist.
but I just wonder when religion started being a race...

Is that not every religions motto, God is Love, kill for God


I was going to say boys will be boys.


Excellent point.

Long time ago. Take a closer look at the Old Testament, and some more recent approaches for that matter.

My question though is: why ask about Polish Integration with other Nationalities? How about other nationalities integrating with Poles?

Ive never had that view of Poland in fact I had never heard that Polish people drink a lot until I came to this forum, maybe that's your view!


He was being a polite racists...I wouldnt date a white person is what he meant!n If I as a white woman said I would date a black man because he was black what would people say

Anyway, back on topic, in general black women dont date white guys, its unusual and certainly not common!


I was making a point because people keep banging on about how Poland isnt very multi racial, I think, why should it be, just because every other country has the united nations at its bus stops, i dont see the reason why Poland should have to join the party if they dont want to! It isnt a very good party!