"Texas style" steakhouse in Poznan. Worthy investment?

I was just wondering what possibilities are out there when it comes to steakhouses in Poland. I've had a few steaks there and wasn't entirely impressed. I love most PL food, but I think they lack in the steak dept.

What do you think the chances of extortion are if any? Would the word "Texas" be tainted due to our unpopular president?

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My co workers have said it's pretty good. Havn't tried it myself. Was at Habana last night for a few drinks they had a tank with live Lobster and Oysters. Had to have a half dozen on the halfshell a bit pricy at 10zl each but good, they also have a T-bone on the menu for 110zl. I will have to try it soon. A good steak has been hard to find in Poznan.

Yeah, I saw that place last time I was there. It looks like a decent restaurant, but there weren't many people in there everytime I passed by. I could be because it was new. How big was the T-bone? Was it at least 20oz? I'd plan on opening a strictly steak joint with a la carte sides with a wide variety of wines and imported/domestic on tap and possibly a cigar room.

I don't remember if they showed the wieght. It's a nice place a bit pricy but the menu was pretty extensive. I am getting pretty bored of the menus on the Rynek. From the feel and decor of the place I thought it would be more expensive than it is. Maybe that is why it's seldom busy.

Going to the USA next week for 5 days. Going to eat alot of seafood, steaks and Mexican.

Have you ever been to Mykonos? I had a somewhat decent filet from there, but it had a 2 inch block of garlic butter on top. It was a heart stopper, but delicious. If you like Italian, check out Figaro.

Have fun back home. I'll be in Poz in August, so maybe I'll try that place out.

Been there a few times always had traditional greek. Pretty good. That is how Tapas does there filet too (call it a pepper steak). really good I had that last night before Habana thats why I didn't eat there other than the oysters.

Where are you from?

New Jersey

One of the best steaks I've ever had was in CA. at the Old Range Steakhouse in So. Lake Tahoe. It was a fist thick...awesome.

Never been there, been close Manhattan

I think your chances in succeeding with opening a stake house in Poland are ZERO. First of all, Polish people don't go out. It's just not a part of their culture. They eat at home, and that's it.

Another thing is, as you said, a stake is a foreign food to them. I bet you won't find one person in Poznan who knows the difference between a fillet mignon and a porterhouse. I bet you won’t find one person in Poznan who ever had a fillet mignon or a porterhouse. They wouldn’t know what to do with it.

Yet another thing is the price of beef in Poland. Did you read the second post here? Cali-in-Poznan said he saw a T-bone on the menu in Poland for 110zl (~$33) and that's in a country where they average $2-3/h. Sorry to say that, but I doubt a stake house in Poland has any chance of successes.

yeah they do. poles do eat out and do other "out" stuff. but i don't think a steak house would be a go. beef isn't all that big in PL in the first place. if it's TX style, it may be too big and if the price is high, then good luck as poles are frugal. ;)

If it's already on sale then there is a market for it. Open a place in Warsaw. More people can afford it there.

it'd be expensive for some people....stake dinners are expensive in general everywhere... but i guess, it's what everybody has said already... i heard that Krakow needs a good stakehouse...

btw, there is no better stakes then in TX...not even in Cali ;)

Thanks for your opinions folks. I've seen PL people eating out everytime I've been out to eat. There are a lot of people with money in Poznan and I usually see them in Dom Vikingow or sth similar.

Wroclaw, you may be right. Do you think this would be more to accomodate foreigners rather than Poles?

Enjoy the match everyone. Good luck to you all.

lol.. just because TX is bigger surely doesn't mean it's better. :rolleyes:

:P :D

It doesn't follow unfortunately, especially in Poland.

cmon plk....just admit it... the best steaks you can only eat in TX.... and not because they are big... they are delicious, even tough it's not my favorite dish ;)

Also bear in mind that many Scots live there. No, not stingy people, but those with businesses and dying for a good steak. We have great steakhouses in Aberdeen, maybe not as good as American, but chunky and full-flavoured. The Poles love their grills and, after grill season, want at least to have the option of eating a rump steak.

Sorry Dice, plk123 is right. Businesses near ryneks do a roaring trade. It would provide much needed variety. It's a goer in my book.

I never eat dead cow but if I did I imagine it would taste a lot better than a piece of wood that was sharp at one end. I don't eat wood either btw

She is right I spent about 8 months in Dallas/Ft Worth, There is no better steak than Texas but I hear Argintina is very very good. That is the problem in Poland as they just don't breed cattle for beef they do more Pork (I have heard as a joke I think that the beef here is when the dairy cow stops giving milk) May be true. Most of the better resteraunts in Poznan have Steak but it is usually the filet as it's the only decent cut of beef you can get here. A good Filet MIngon here is about as good as a bar food sirloin in Texas.

I have had a couple good T-bones here but they are imported from Argintina (so not fresh) but decent and pricey.

The best in Fort Worth Texas is Del Monicos Double Eagle. You wont get out of there for less than 300 Zl a person but damn is it good.

Also the resturants are usually packed here on the weekends in the summer. In the winter it may be hard to break even unless your in a nice warm Mall

Yes, steaks are better than toothpicks :)

I'll take your word for it ;)

If the menu is expensive there are plenty of Poles who can afford it.

But if I opened in Warsaw I would be hoping to cash in on business travellers and wealthy tourists too.

A good steak is difficult to resist.

It's not because Texas is bigger it's because it's one of the primary industries there and they do one hell of a job.

Texan's breed good beef and Poland breeds beautiful women!

I can do without their beef...............

Bottom line :)

thank you

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WI has a sh.t load of cows. not too many steer though.

This may be a little late (6 mts), but I still hope it gets to someone interested in this thread.

I just moved to Poznan from South Texas at the beginning of December. I'm originally from the Rio Grande Valley (great barbeque and genuine Mexican) and moved to Houston (great steaks and smoky cookouts) for about 3 years. I'm a barbeque fanatic and love really smoky and awesome-smelling cookouts. Grilling's one of my favorite things to do and would love to hear some feedback on the barbeque scene in Poznan (if there's one, or if there's a possibility of having one). If you all think there ain't a market for this sort of thing, how about a simple hamburger joint? I know there's a healthy amount of foreigners in Poznan due to the schools here, including a number of Americans longing for some homestyle cookouts. What do you think? Get back to me.

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Be careful, there's not as many foreigners here as you might think. I thought so too, but I'm finding that I'm going weeks at a time without hearing any native English speakers - in fact, the last one I heard was a rather wasted Scottish guy during the climate conference.

However, a proper, American owned and operated burger grill could do a trick. If you think about it, there's all those places around Stary Rynek offering American style food - but most of it appears to be overpriced rubbish designed to attract stupid tourists and idiotic Poles. I'd certainly visit a proper American-run place - especially if it was proudly so. Such a thing might just take the trick in Poznan, as it's a business city and therefore more travelled.

Actually, do a proper burgers and ribs style bar/restaurant and I'll be one of your best customers :)

I attended a couple of backyard BBQ's when in Poland last May. The meat was always way overcooked. Besides, the most popular is pork and chicken, so I guess, they have to be cooked well, but overcooking makes them dry and tough.

Therefore, I don't know if a true steakhouse would survive in Poland, or maybe not just yet. I don't think diners are ready to see blood on the plate when you cut into a rare or medium rare steak...

Burgers and ribs have a chance.

Problems with a steakhouse in Poland.

Poles aren't into beef as a rule, even very good butcher shops don't always have it. A natural result of this is that the beef isn't ..... great quality. I'm guessing that most beef on sale is from 'retired' dairy cattle. (when you travel you don't see herds of cows in the country side, there's an occcasional dairy cow staked out to graze).

So supplying a steakhouse won't be that easy or cheap and the prices needed to make it profitable will scare many away. Yeah, a lot of people in Poland have money but the people with the money to spend on imported quality beef are going to want an upscale establishment. And the number of foreigners (who spend a lot of time going out) outside Warsaw just isn't that big.

Real, quality hamburgers would have to contend with the debasement of the term in Poland. On the one hand, there's the ghastly memory of Polish "hamburgery" of the 90's (breaded) pork with raw cabbage(!) and a rock-hard bun or the present knowledge of McCrapolds.

I've done homemade hamburgers that have convinced a few Poles that hamburgers can be well-made and taste good but it's generally a hard sell.