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Permit of residence in Warsaw?


wot30  
11 Dec 2007 /  #1
Does anybody know where in Warsaw I can get a permit of residence and what I need to bring to get it? I'm from the Netherlands. Thanks!
telefonitika  
11 Dec 2007 /  #2
read that: PERMIT FOR RESIDENCE in POLAND
OP wot30  
12 Dec 2007 /  #3
Thanks very much! These are the rules... complicated as always :( anyhow, I'm still trying to figure out WHERE I have to go. I'll live in śródmieście :) I saw that the Voivoidship office is at Plac Bankowy 3/5 (source: mazowsze.uw.gov.pl) Is that where I need to go?
Zeze 9 | 79  
12 Dec 2007 /  #4
hey i see you ducth ? what you doing in POland ? do you work here ?

if you want to live in warsaw where I work they are lookig for ducth speaker no polish need english is the working language is an IT firm just giving you a tip here if you need more info contact me

regards
wot30 3 | 20  
13 Dec 2007 /  #5
yes, i'm dutch. interesting. maybe for me, but more likely for a friend of mine. i tried to contact you, but it says i have to post three useful messages first... hope this one is counted as useful

For those who are interested. I found out where it is: Dluga 5, in the old city center.
This is a rather good description:

cpe.sggw.pl/socrates/students/comingtopoland/index-e.html
telefonitika  
17 Dec 2007 /  #6
its good for students to know :) the link that is!
wot30 3 | 20  
4 Jan 2008 /  #7
OK, I went to Dluga 5, and this is much more complicated than it looks like. The worst is that you have to ask someone from Warsaw to go with you to an office (if this person lives in the center of Warsaw: Nowa Grotska 47 or so). Why this is needed is not clear to me. I do not know anyone in Warsaw that well that I dare to ask to accompany me. So this is a problem. Nevertheless, the office was really helpful and EU citizens are handled with in a special part of the building (room 42) - you have to get a number with "A" at the entrance.

In any case, here is what you need (websites listed above are wrong):
- 3 Copies of your passport
- 3 Copies of the form they give you in Dluga 5
- Get registered accompanied by someone who lives in Warsaw in the office of the neighborhood this person lives in.
- A translated proof of health care insurance (approved by a sworn-in translator)
- 1 Copy of your credit card (bring it with you!) or other proof of having enough funds
steve d 3 | 17  
4 Jan 2008 /  #8
They've made it much more difficult since I picked up my residency card last year in Dluga ;-(
CaleyJags 1 | 38  
4 Jan 2008 /  #9
Yeah i went through all that when i was there last year.

When i went i also had to take a copy of my work contract.

When i arrived it was so busy and i thought that i would be there for hours, lots of Africans, Eastern Europeans and Vietnamese all sitting around, i got my ticket and to my joy i found out that EU citizens had thier own room and i was first in line, it made my day because i could get back to the pub alot quicker.
wot30 3 | 20  
8 Jan 2008 /  #10
Hm... next step... I heard I need a NIP and PESEL. Where can I get those???
zion 16 | 168  
8 Jan 2008 /  #11
hire a lawyer been dutch you probaly cheap as fcuk .....
CaleyJags 1 | 38  
8 Jan 2008 /  #12
Hm... next step... I heard I need a NIP and PESEL. Where can I get those???

You have to get your PESEL number from the town that you are registered in, i live in Warsaw but i am registered in Radom (cheaper tax).

You can get your NIP number in Warsaw, can't remeber the name as it's been so long but the office is dedicated to non Poles who require NIP numbers, you have to get a PESEL number first if i remember correctly.
wot30 3 | 20  
8 Jan 2008 /  #13
Ha ha, yes, cheap, and also a poor student ;-) Lawyer would be very nice, though :) - I hate arranging these things - already the 5th country I live in in 10 years and again and again the same fuss... for rich businessmen and diplomats it's easy, cause they hire lawyers - I think it should be easy for more normal Europeans as well. Hope my comments help for the next one in this situation (thanks, Carley, for the hints!):

- NIP is relatively easy to get. At Lindleya 14 (the street is a bit difficult to find, but very close to the central station - side street of Nowogrotska). You just fill-out the form you can get at the ground floor. Basically you only need your new address. And they will send you the NIP in one month :(

- PESEL - this is more complicated. At Nowa Grotska 47 (you have to take letter "F") -sorry, I didn't mention this step yet- you show your passport and apartment rental contract (the lady was very friendly and I did not have to bring anybody at all, as they told me I had to, at Dluga 5) and you get a tiny piece of paper with dates on it. For 3 months only. This you have to take back to Dluga (I didn't do this yet). Then after 3 months you can get a more permanent permit of residence :)

Cheers!
zion 16 | 168  
9 Jan 2008 /  #14
good to know you got your staff short it out ....

did you get my message ?
MoveOneRelo - | 3  
11 Jan 2008 /  #15
Hi,

If You still have any problems with all this paper work etc, pls contact me. Part of what we do is helping expats with Dluga Street Office isues.

...and remember,

In any case, here is what you need (websites listed above are wrong):
- 3 Copies of your passport
- 3 Copies of the form they give you in Dluga 5
- Get registered accompanied by someone who lives in Warsaw in the office of the neighborhood this person lives in.
- A translated proof of health care insurance (approved by a sworn-in translator)
- 1 Copy of your credit card (bring it with you!) or other proof of having enough funds

...this is just the begining, the second part is more difficult... THE QUEUE!
Harry  
11 Jan 2008 /  #16
...this is just the begining, the second part is more difficult... THE QUEUE!

A queue not helped by 'expat agencies' bribing officials to let them jump the queue.

Fortunately the queue for the office which deals with EU nationals has never (in the five or six times I've been there) been longer than 30 minutes or so. A couple of times there was no queue at all.
telefonitika  
11 Jan 2008 /  #17
been longer than 30 minutes or so.

this is where you learn patience ... :D
davidpeake 14 | 451  
22 Feb 2008 /  #19
eracareers-poland.gov.pl try here
jones101 1 | 349  
22 Feb 2008 /  #20
If you go to queue and the mafia is trying to cause trouble there call the Police. Contrary to some people's statements most Polish police are good folks and hate this kind of nonsense. Be polite to them and they will help you out.
Grounded 4 | 99  
22 Feb 2008 /  #21
if you want to live in warsaw where I work they are lookig for ducth speaker no polish need english is the working language is an IT firm just giving you a tip here if you need more info contact me

Hi Zeze, is that still the case?
zion 16 | 168  
22 Feb 2008 /  #22
Maybe I can ask if you want are you in warsaw ?
Grounded 4 | 99  
22 Feb 2008 /  #23
That would be great thanks. No I am still in Ireland with the intentions of moving.I'm flexible for Interviews as well.....

Thansk a lot :)
zion 16 | 168  
22 Feb 2008 /  #24
do you speak Nederlands ?
MareGaea 29 | 2,752  
22 Feb 2008 /  #25
I do speak Dutch yeah, so how many Dutch are there, here?
Godallemachtig Krachtig, Die Achtentachtig Prachtige Grachten :)

M-G (takes out his baseball bat)
zion 16 | 168  
23 Feb 2008 /  #26
not you I mean the guy looking for a job
Grounded 4 | 99  
23 Feb 2008 /  #27
do you speak Nederlands ?

I do although I must admit im not fluent. Used to live in Holland for some time and picked it up as it isnt too different from german
zion 16 | 168  
23 Feb 2008 /  #28
sorry mate just native speakers where I work !!!
MareGaea 29 | 2,752  
23 Feb 2008 /  #29
it isnt too different from german

I wouldn't say that to a Dutchman - there are some major differences.

M-G
wot30 3 | 20  
29 Apr 2008 /  #30
Ha ha, yes these stupid language sensitivities... never understood them. Yes, of course Dutch is similar to German!! (I'm "very" Dutch, so I am "allowed to" say) Difference... German is a bit more useful - but also not very much ;) And ... yes, also sensitive... Russian is a bit similar to Polish - very similar grammar and many words are practically the same. But I'm not Polish, so I'm not "allowed to" say, sorry!

So, the story of the permit of residence is not over yet. After 3 months I should have gone back and, yes, have a sheet signed by my landlord/landlady. Only then they will give you your PESEL. It will last 3 weeks or so before they give it to you.

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