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Joined: 17 Jul 2007 / Female ♀
Last Post: 11 Mar 2008
Threads: Total: 4 / In This Archive: 4
Posts: Total: 27 / In This Archive: 26
From: China(live in poland now)
Speaks Polish?: no
Interests: reading,thinking,cooking

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zhenzhen   
2 Feb 2009
Law / Setting up a Chinese Language School in Poland - good business idea? [41]

As I know, there are at least 3 chinese language schools in Warsaw, the market is not as big as english language school, but it is not so small as many people think, there are group of poles speak Chinese, even quite well, from my experience, within 2 months, I met 5 poles who speak chinese very well, and ofcouse, all of them speak english too.

Many poles I know would like to learn chinese, but the fee of learning chinese is much expensive than fee of learning english, for example, in Warsaw, 60 hours of engish course cost around 600 zloty, while 60 hours of chinese course cost around 1600 zloty.

By the way, I am a chinese who living in Warsaw.
zhenzhen   
15 Jun 2008
Life / Asian and Polish culture - how do they compare? [24]

if a polish person and an asian person were to be friends, would they have so many cultural differences that it'd be a problem?

From my own experience, it won't be problem if two person know well about both countries'culture and respect both culture.

If talk about Chinese culture and Polish culture, I can feel some common cultural features in both countries, for example, polish are more circle style than linear style , which is more similar to Chinese culture than western european culture; another intesting thing I found is that polish have similar behavior when they invite guests to home...
zhenzhen   
27 Nov 2007
Life / Cultural adaptation in Poland, which stages are you falling into? [11]

The idea of posting such a topic is comes from my recent thoughts. I am Chinese and grew up in Chinese culture background; I do deeply love my culture and also like enjoying different culture especially since I live in Poland. There are people from different countries in Polish Forum, from the posts I have read during few months, I realize that the cultural difference sometimes may bring misunderstanding and even conflicts. I think this is also one reason why there are sometimes many offensive words appear which toward other culture or nations they are not involved.

I am interested in philosophy and culture, I had studied philosophy in China and got my BA, soon I will finish my MA in Poland. I just post some basic things about culture adaptation here, if someone feels it is interesting and you can have a look. I also would like to make friends with those who are interested about philosophy and culture (you always can send me message from PF).It’s my pleasure to discuss sth about philosophy and culture.

Here are:

Cultural adaptation is not off/on phenomenon. Like many other human abilities it develops through stages. A good form of developmental thinking can be illustrated with the concept of cultural shock. This concept gained complexity as it was described in terms of U or W curves extending through time.

Ethnocentric and Ethno relative Stages are divided into 6 parts: Denial, Defense, Minimization, Acceptance, Adaptation, and Integration.

DENIAL
People at the denial stage are unable to make cultural differences in complex way. Either they do not perceive cultural differences at all or they can conceive only of broad categories such as ‘foreigner’, ‘people of colour’, ‘Africans’.

DEFENSE
People at the defence stage have more ability to construe cultural difference, but they attach negative evaluations to it.

People in defence consider themselves under siege. Their defence is characterised by the polarization of a denigrated ‘them’ with a superior ‘us’.

MINIMIZATION
People at the minimization stage try to bury cultural differences within already-familiar categories of physical and philosophical similarity. They recognize and accept superficial cultural differences such as eating custom but they assume that deep down all people are essentially the same-just human. As a consequence of this assumption, certain cultural values may be mistaken for universal desires.

ACCEPTANCE
People at the acceptance stage enjoy recognizing and exploring cultural differences. They are aware that they are cultural beings. They are fairly tolerant of ambiguity and are comfortable knowing there is no right answer (although they are better answers for particular contexts).

At this stage, people have moved beyond ethnocentric rules for behaviour and may not yet have developed ethnorelative principles for taking action.

ADAPTATION
People at the adaptation stage use knowledge about their own and others’ cultures to shift into a different cultural frame of reference. Most people at this stage are intercultural sensitive; they can apply skills of empathy and adaptation of behaviour to any cultural context.

Sometimes they are good at shifting between the two cultures they have internalized but they cannot apply the same skills to other culture (or groups they do not consider cultures-e.g.-gay).

INTEGRATION
People at the integration stage are attempting to reconcile the sometimes-conflicting cultural frames that they have internalized. They are inclined to interpret and evaluate behaviour from a variety of cultural frames of reference, so that there is never a single right or wrong answer. People in integration face the unending task of guiding their own behaviour along the ethical lines that they themselves have created.

According to my small investigation of my polish friends and friends from other countries, Majority of my friends fall into the ACCEPTANCE and MINIMIZATION stage, and then ADAPTATION. But the result may be different if make an investigation among common society.

So, which stages are you falling into?
zhenzhen   
7 Nov 2007
Food / We baked Polish Cheese Cakes! [19]

This weekend I plan to make chocolate cake with apple. Next time I will try the one you mentioned. Thanks.
zhenzhen   
6 Nov 2007
Food / We baked Polish Cheese Cakes! [19]

Mmmmmmmmm... Looks good!

Thanks, I like polish cakes, and I am learning more about it.
Frankly, all kinds of housework, cooking is the one i really like and enjoy.
zhenzhen   
6 Nov 2007
Food / Our Polish dinner today was delicious [26]

Its pretty popular here in the US also

Frankly , the Chinese food in US or EU are not the same as in China because of lacking of spice and vegetables . There is really a big difference, I had been to chinese restaurants in EU, but I didn't find sth is really the same taste as in China, so I prefer cook by myself and I enjoy cooking.
zhenzhen   
6 Nov 2007
Food / We baked Polish Cheese Cakes! [19]

First time, we baked cheese cake with raisin,second time,we baked cheese cake with peach. The first one taste better.


  • Cheese cake with raisin

  • Chesse cake with peach
zhenzhen   
6 Nov 2007
Food / Our Polish dinner today was delicious [26]

Have anyone eaten Żurek

we cooked many times, i like zurek and Bigos, Bigos tastes like Some Chinese food a little bit.

and truly "enjoyed" the next day :-)

yes, exectly, once we kept it on fire all afternoon and night,and eat the next day, taste good.

my favorite is kung po chicken or shrimp fried rice:)

I didn't know kung po chicken is so famous, many of my friends from EU said they like this food.
zhenzhen   
4 Nov 2007
Life / How much do you HATE POLISH PEOPLE and POLAND [1260]

[quote=Crow] they would learn one day in distant future, they would learn

You are completely right, and anyway this is some kind of hope,right?

Sometimes I think people may have too small contact about philosophy and they even do Not want to get down to think what's the wonderful value in their life and what's the most important thing they should achieve.

Ego,selflish and hate can not give people any REAL happiness, only some moment feeling...
zhenzhen   
4 Nov 2007
Life / How much do you HATE POLISH PEOPLE and POLAND [1260]

DaveInCal, thank you. I just wrote what i think and hope more people can understand.
I joined this forum because I Do love poland and wanna know more about it.
zhenzhen   
4 Nov 2007
Food / Our Polish dinner today was delicious [26]

Gotta say looks like a plate of Puke

I do NOT know what you meant, but i forgive you,boy...
Just please use other polite way to reply due to this soup is one of the best soups in poland, what you said may be a kind of offence of poland.

BTW, I am not live in the Wroclaw area, but if have chance, I would like to invite you for Chinese dinner.
zhenzhen   
4 Nov 2007
Life / How much do you HATE POLISH PEOPLE and POLAND [1260]

the love i mean it's a universe love . It's difficulty to come true, but it's enought if more and more people will understand it. However, sometimes i feel sad because i know people will never give up selfish,anger ,attachment and......EGO.....
zhenzhen   
3 Nov 2007
Life / How much do you HATE POLISH PEOPLE and POLAND [1260]

Why hate? I do Not like this word at all. People should love each other. With a open mind and buddha heart... the world will be much more beautiful...

I LOVE POLAND!!!
zhenzhen   
3 Nov 2007
Food / Our Polish dinner today was delicious [26]

I went to this Polish buffet by my house

hehe, we cooked polish food by ourselves, you like chinese food?I am a very good cook of Chinese food.Not kidding.LOL
zhenzhen   
20 Jul 2007
Life / Somebody from abroad married a Polish in Poland? [18]

ell, normally I only talk to girls I have a chance to eat breakfast with

That's a interesting point.
haha,btw,how many girls you already had a chance to eat breakfast?:)
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Kidding
zhenzhen   
20 Jul 2007
Life / Somebody from abroad married a Polish in Poland? [18]

Nah

Why not?:)
You can talk in old english,i can talk in maybe classic chinese.
In buddhisn,there is a belief that people's communication and understanding is not depend on language but your thoughts.
zhenzhen   
20 Jul 2007
Life / Somebody from abroad married a Polish in Poland? [18]

As long as it would be in English or Polish, why not? :)

How about in Chinese?

aybe they need a letter of no impediment from you

Thank you for your information.:)
zhenzhen   
20 Jul 2007
Life / Somebody from abroad married a Polish in Poland? [18]

In my opion,if you don't know or understand this person,i would suggest DO NOT give any judgement and commends.

I do not care about anything about work rights in EU,when i was in China ,i had good education and good job with good salary.I bought a big house which is about 120 square meter 3 years ago.I would say life in China is much comfortable for me than in europe.I am with my fiance 2 years already,because my fiance won't be able to find very good-paying job in China just now after he finish his master,the best choce for us is that i came to poland and study again .For myself,after master,probably i will continue my PHD or start to work.

With the growth of globalization,the movement of people between different country is a quite normal thing,if you have been to china,you will know how many foreigners work in china now,did we say sth to offense them?so far,we always say people should have a open mind.

Anyway,thanks for your attention.
zhenzhen   
20 Jul 2007
Life / Somebody from abroad married a Polish in Poland? [18]

I think i need write few thousands words then may enought to tell me how i know...

:):):)

If you are interesting,we can discuss it...kidding

But he is the best man i met in my life
zhenzhen   
20 Jul 2007
Life / Somebody from abroad married a Polish in Poland? [18]

You have to ask your Embassy for it

Thank you very much for your reply,I will call to chinese embassy next monday,hope everything will be ok.

After finish my study in Poland,i and my fiance will move to belgium (My fiance's family live in brussel)and later probablly french.After maybe few years we both will return to China.we perfer to live in China.About poland,i like it,in future i think we will visit again.
zhenzhen   
20 Jul 2007
Life / Somebody from abroad married a Polish in Poland? [18]

I and my fiancé(he is a polish gentleman with polish citizenship) plan to get marriage in Poland in this summer.

We both live in Poland right now.We got a paper about documents we must prepare from the local government in Poland.

There is one document i must have,but they didn't tell me from where i can get and if i can not get,what i should do.The polish name of the document is'document stwierdzajacy moznosc zawarcia malzenstwa wedlug prawa ojczystego'.

Does anybody know about this?I am waiting for the information from you especially those who got marriage in poland already.

Thanks.