History / Ancient Polish History thread [180]


Sure, my unknown friend (as, if)

... speaking about picture/coin on our right side (symbol on the edge of coin)

It's a symbol of light, of good, symbol that was created by culture strongly dependent on sun circle, solstice... farming culture.

... ancient symbol of our Slavic ancestors, from time of dignity, when Sarmatian name was universal Slavic name. Symbol which remind us on land of green and land of free, before era of slavery, when nature and positive human values were respected, time of pioneers, ... time before our civilization clashed with overwhelming foes so that today even symbols of our great ancestors represent target for degeneracy of same invaders.

About SWASTIKA we speak, ancient symbol of our ancestors. This is a symbol that belongs to us and it is time that it must be said. Evil Nazi ideology spat and spit on swastika, even metaphysically humiliates us. Enough with humiliation of our culture! THEY don't have right!

Freedom to Sarmatia! Freedom for our history and our future!

There are few more examples of swastika in Polish/Slavic tradition...



White swastika painted on Vikings shield (reenacting, Bielsko-Biaùa, Poland)

Boreyko Coat of Arms



Kroje



Trady

Drogomir

These are szlacheckie herby, meaning the coat of arms for Poland's old nobility.

I can make the logical connection that Poland stopped using the swastyka after nazis have defiled it, stolen and ruined dignity of ancient Slavic symbol.

Today, in time when Nazi ideology strenghten among young Slavic generations we must help to our children and show them level of Nazi delusion. Swastika can be used only as symbol of good, not as symbol of destruction.

Polish medal from 1918, there are many other medals

from Wikipedia (go see also in any other source):

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika


I must add one more comment on this...

As for using swastika by Slavs in modern time - NO, I won`t suggest that. We can only try to protect that symbol and try to expalin true (positive) meaning of it but, it has been deeply hijacked (possible permanently).

People are indoctrinated from birth to hate it and associate it with everything evil.

News / Polish Election Poll (according to PolishForums) [237]


I know what I speak

Racowie = Serbs

See >>>

Encyklopedia- Wirtualna Polska

encyklopedia.wp.pl/sz_tresc.html?encid=1730632&szukajEnc=racowie&enc_opis=1&score=&found=&szukane=&ticaid=14a27


Gear at Grunwald

archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/HERBARZ/2001-03/0983839431


So, if Kaczynski support creation of Greater Albanian caliphate (as I already underlined) he spit on Serbs (work against) - in other words. He should explain to Polish voters that Serbs has problems with Vatican and with Croatian Catholics but that there is nothing anti-Catholic in Serbian tradition, that Serbs were always brothers when Poland (and other Catholic, Protestant and Orthodox Slavs and, many other progressive nations/people) needed them— on Grunwald and during Kosciusko uprising (we would do even more if we didn’t had our own troubles), in WWI, in WWII, against Stalin. In middle age, from Ras, from center of Serbian Orthodoxy and statehood, Serbs (which were remembered as Racowie) came to fight for freedom of Poland and our nobility closely cooperated and intermarried. Serbs didn’t allow that division of Christianity divides us- Why would politicians of Poland accept that.

Serbs are proud to consider themselves as brothers to Poles and to Russians, in the same time. Kaczynski is against Balkan Serbs, with that anti-Lusatian Serbs, with that anti-Polish. We must recognize him as pro-German and we must ask- Where Kaczynski lead Poland?

Poland backs 'free and independent' Kosovo: Albanian president

kosovareport.blogspot.com/2006/11/poland-backs-free-and-independent.ht ml

News / Polish Election Poll (according to PolishForums) [237]

Luk

Will you please, in short, just inform me about current position of Kachinsky and his party (global image in public)? How goes name of Kach political party (just to check)? What`s the key argument of his political opponents?

History / Ancient Polish History thread [180]

Here are some uniforms of Polish Sarmatians (szlachta):

Jan Zamojski XVI AD
Uniform from XVIII AD
Uniform from XIX AD

News / Polish Election Poll (according to PolishForums) [237]

Yes, a good election tomorrow and dignity

God save Poland, save Slavs!

Good luck Poles

News / Polish Election Poll (according to PolishForums) [237]

''October 21 Polls Fast Approaching in Poland''

16 October 2007
pinr.com/report.php?ac=view_report&report_id=700&language_id=1

News / Polish Election Poll (according to PolishForums) [237]

Comments in Serbian media...

Poles start voting in early parliamentary election

B92
21 October 2007 | 10:03 | Source: Reuters
b92.net/eng/news/world-article.php?yyyy=2007&mm=10&dd=21&nav_id=44744

Fragments:

News / Poland 2007 Elections: PO Won, PIS second [232]


Hey, man is Kashubian?!?

Interesting

News / Third World War and the role of Poland [82]


... considering that they already atacked Slavic world- we should arange that it is their last mistake

So...

First, liberation of Lusatia

Second, liberation of all territories that are still under Turkish occupation

Then, who want Slavic Alliance/Union form Slavic Alliance/Union, who doesn`t wish Slavic Alliance/Union, never mind

All, who would support those goals would be definitely on the same side as Serbs

News / Third World War and the role of Poland [82]

If our brothers decide, who are we to judge. Only what we can do is to support them, there is no question about it

Look how so called West using double standards when spred its influence all over the world. They say that they spread democracy, human rights, multiculturalism but, that`s not true. Their greedy fingers are just in conquest for more and more resources.

I ask ... What if, by anology, when Slavic world consolidates, we start to spread freedom, democracy, human rights, multiculturalism all over the Europe from where our ancestors and culture was brutaly pushed and destroyed. If that happened, it would be by their standards and spiritual victory is already ours.

and, look brate what Lusatians say... they already, in agony, call us...

Lusatian State
geocities.com/free_lusatia/Lusatian_State



Sons of Poland, brothers! In the name of Christ, give chance to Russians, support them in their attempts to consolidate Russia, give chance that Slavdom survive and that Slavic children rule under Slavic resources, on behalf of whole free and progresive humankind.

Surrender your life to Slavdom, soul to Christ and honor to nobody!

Put Serbian (of all European Serbs) question on European table and push back any German atempt to expand further onto Slavic territories!

Free Lusatia!

Revange for Yugoslavia!

Slavia!

News / Third World War and the role of Poland [82]


Why you said that and in that tone? It`s ugly and nasty. What then Serbs need to expect, if you Russians behave like this with Poles?

`I was` spiritualy already in Lusatia and you pushing me back in idiotic Russian-Polish antagonism. You want that Serbs extinct waiting that you solwe all your problems?

I call you Russians to be aware of historic momentum and stop to behave like that other Slavs depend on you. We have feed-back, we are first line and Russia also depend on rest of Slavic world. Russia is stong only because Russia has Slavs on western and southern borders! ... and, we bleed and you make jokes just to prove how `grandioso` you are!

please, please

News / Third World War and the role of Poland [82]

You know what, if Russians don`t change their attitude, they would alone realy s*** Russia. They even don`t need any foes.

Greedy anglo-saxon and german (etc) fingers just wait to grab enormous resources for themselves. Truth is that only in cooperation between Russia and rest of Slavic world, those resources could be preserved for future Russians and other Slavs.

We need each others, its obvious to me but, how to beat f**** stupidity?!

History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]


In fact, Poland did a lot of for Russia and that Russia even never (as, if) nicely (!) asked for help. Poland exist on her ground and Russia is aware of Polish position and profits on that. That is ugly and complete Slavic world knows that. Russia is not biggest Polish problem but, biggest wound for sure.

Poles are Slavs and all invaders on Russia thru history from western side needed to count on that fact. It was never comfortable to invaders to try to reach Russia marching thru Slavic Polish land, because no matter all, always existed Poles which couldn`t accept that somebody march via Poland to exterminate Slavic children in Russia. And, you Russian know that and count on that!!!

Poland, Czeska, before them Lusatian Serbs, Kashubians, Pomerans, Prussians, Bavarians... (before germanization)- all were first line on western borders of Slavdom and were greately scatered.

Same was/is with South Slavs. One would hardly examine who suffered/suffer more and was more scatered, Western or Southern Slavs. Saying that, I in the same time don`t denied fact that Eastern Slavs also were greately scatered. We all have our share in great historical sufferings of our kind.

We must be aware of fact that Slavdom, on western side, retreated approximately (!) from territories of todays France, Swiss, greater part of Germany, Belgia, Baltic (in general). South Slavs retreated from territories of todays Northern Italy, Austria (there existed border line between Western and South Slavs), Northern Albania, Anatolia. Eastern Slavs retreated from Romania, Hungary (there existed border line between South and East Slavs) and also from parts of Anatolia. If we speak particulary about Serbs, from Baltic to Balkan, level of sufferings and scaterings is abnormal, behind worse dark imagination.

You see, Constantin

Enormous pressure on Western and Southern Slavs exist for minimum 2500 years. Eastern Slavs and especialy Russia also had problems but, had much more comfort if we speak about safety. True (!), Russia (or to say Russians!) often tried to help to their brothers on South and West but, also sometimes profits in deal with Slavic foes or faild to help or just couldn`t help.

I think that minimum what Russia can do now, is to stop to blackmail other Slavs with energy (for example). Let`s start from that little step and sign of good-will from Russian side. Then, maybe, possibilities for new agriements occure

History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

there is chance that Poland and Russia combine efforts arround at least one question!

I call my Polish and Russian brothers and sisters to arise their voice in protection of Lusatian Serbs which are in agony.

Serbian government initiated cultural project dedicated to Lusatians, as part of Rastko Project..

Introduction

rastko.org.yu/rastko-lu/istorija/eknox-destruction/eknox-destruction1. html


INVADERE ET SUBIUGARE

By E.L. Skip Knox

rastko.org.yu/rastko-lu/istorija/eknox-destruction/eknox-destruction2.html


EVELLERE ET PLANTARE

rastko.org.yu/rastko-lu/istorija/eknox-destruction/eknox-destruction3. html


CHAPTER 4: OSTSIEDLUNG

rastko.org.yu/rastko-lu/istorija/eknox-destruction/eknox-destruction4. html


Chapter 5

rastko.org.yu/rastko-lu/istorija/eknox-destruction/eknox-destruction5. html

History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

Situation is serious and only combined efforts of two biggest Slavic countries- Russia and Poland, can bring positive results...

Situation of Sorbs in Germany

rastko.org.yu/rastko-lu/istorija/savremena/schools2001.html

Mon, 08 Oct 2001 22:51:34 -0400

HELP US SAVE OUR SCHOOLS


Ludmila Budarjowa, President
Serbske sulske towaristwo
(Sorbian School Association)

EXISTENTIAL PROBLEMS OF THE SORBS

Summary about the existential problems of the Sorbs in view of the conditions in the Free State of Saxony

The Union, the Free State of Saxony and the Land of Brandenburg in their relations to the Sorbs

tcm-kp.de/schulstreit/existentialproblems/index.html


Cultural Genocide of Sorbs in Germany

"DOMOWINA" Union of Lusatian Sorbs press releases:

home.t-online.de/home/320051871311/presse.htm

History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]


energy issue is unfortunately in close connection with other opened questions between Russia and so called West but, I must say that i expected more from Russia

What I (for sure Serbian public in general) mean is that Russia can not fail as countries/powers of so called West failed. Double standards, unilateral pressures, illegal actions, state terrorism, economic and pharmaceutical sanctions... were/are forced by so called West in world’s policy, in last 15 years and Russia must refuse such behavior in international relations. Russia needs to find strength to resist on all pressures with attitude of one gentleman. Only that way Russia can deserve its position in international community and what is most important- in Slavic world.

Putin`s administration did a lot of to rebuild Russian strength/economy/social sphera/transition but on the field of image of Russia he failed in that moment when he accepted to behave according to savage rules of so called west.

I know, its not easy when you are overrun and, maybe i set too high standards for Russia. Maybe we Serbs expect some `idealism` from Russian side. Same idealism we would like to see in Poland, Czeska... to say in all Slavs.

Only when is really hard, one can demonstrate if one is worth enough


i always salute cooperation based on economic logic but remember, Slavs are gentleman’s too

History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]


neck? oh man, Serbs are in such a deep sh** that neck won`t be enough

Tell me, tell me exactly what you as Russian think that Russia immidiately can and must do to support Lusatian and Balkan Serbs?


Yes

what about monuments issue?

and what about Polish meat ban?

Why would Russia adopt in her policy pressure, violance and sanctions? Its perverse

If false West is perverse and manipulate with smaller countries that doesn`t mean that Russia need to do the same, to be perverse, because we know that its not normal to be perverse. If Russia go crazy who would be hope? USA, Arabia, Israel, Britain, Albania, NATO? God forbid!

Russia should consolidate and support true freedom, preservation of nature, tolerance and democracy in this world. But first evolve Russians!

History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]


But then, we know that Poland, Lithuania, Letonia, Estonia aren`t creators of NATO policy. Maybe members but, not creators

If Russia want to show strenght and to warn USA, Russia should deal dirrectly with USA (conventionaly, of course). Violant policy on weaker neighbors won`t help to Russian reputation and won`t stop USA. On the contrary, USA/EU/NATO just wait to push Russia in some stupid action and to point with evil fingers (end eyes :) ) onto Russia, while in fact they are self-proclaimed `world policeman`.


Polson is right hire.

Russia should have original and recognizable foreign policy, more in the Slavic spirit.


Hire, Russion side is right

but, methodology of Russion foreign politics failed

Instead of vilance, show batter face of Russia, give hope to people arround you. Do something for nature, for democracy, for tolerance, be batter on all those fields where so called West already failed

Life / Why are the Poles picked on there is no reason to do this to them [108]

on the first place, its about assimilation

you hold somebody in defensive, humiliation and as object of jokes and then, people become disappointed with themselves, foreign civilizations becoming more atractive

That is how false West destroying original West (Poles, Slavs in general)

History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

Strašno ;)

such an intro can turn Net enthity into muertos immortales of Net

History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

BDW, Lukasz you have nice avatar :)

somehow, democratic

History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

just to ralax this thread a little, when we are on natural beauties. hire is artistic vision of one ancient Slavic spirit `Rusalka`

History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]


not only mithology ;)

History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]


hmmmm, on the altair of ethernity, of all beauties

lucky you

:)

History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]


Yes, Serbs expect more then verbal support from Russia and, we would see about Putin- who he realy is, Slavic hero or great failure

United Lands of Serbs are on the way as respond on advancing anti-Slavic pressure on region. That`s why Bosnian Serbs (from Serb Republik) domontrate. They demand unity with other Serbian lands in Serbia and they refuse to live in state which is false creation of evil coalition.

News / Polish-German Relations in the Present [697]

Polson

its Germany all the time, trying to re-establish control over Balkan and divide region on two zones of influence- German and Turkish (Islamic). But, they miscalculates and pushed things too hard

As respond on German pressure and interferance in internal affairs, Serbia started to point on German internal organization. Few hours ago I heard statement on TV that `Germany should worry about Eastern Germany more then about Kosovo` [news is fresh, when i found it on the Net I`ll post it]

One article in case with events

Belgrade rejects Ischinger Kosovo idea

30 October 2007 | 13:41 -> 16:58 | Source: Tanjug

b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2007&mm=10&dd=30&nav_id=44978

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Poles, brothers, don`t be German puppet if they tries to use Poland (thru NATO) for their plans. Resist to them Poles and help us, as we- Racowie were with you in time of your need!

News / Polish-German Relations in the Present [697]

sure, for 15 years Serbia and Serbs were isolated and encircled with wall of anti-Serbian propaganda

Let`s say, things are `a little bit` different then was previously presented to Slavic, European and World public.

News / Polish-German Relations in the Present [697]


Ah, you didn`t understand Luk

its about Russia and all other Slavs joining (arround) Serbia, its about spiritual potential and fact that Serbia and Serbs represent last active center/population of ancient united Slavic civilization. That center and that people refusing to die, to forget and all the time screaming for re-union despite all ods

its not matter of size of country/population, just Serbs has potential to change things, to awake and that`s why we are target

Democracy, nature, tolerance, dignity, progress!

News / Made in Poland products? [66]

Polish and Czech products are realy good and i am very happy and proud when i can replace some German product with some product of our kin Slavic nations.

I use all sorts of Polish product, from food to automotive and metal industry.

Go Polish industry! Go Slavic products!

Life / How much do you HATE POLISH PEOPLE and POLAND [1260]


yes, you lost children of White Garden. You- Chartaginian, Moor, Egiptian, Roman and Teuton servants! Stop to serve Semitic culture and come back to Slavdom!

:)