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Sokrates   
27 Oct 2009
News / JEW YOUTH SHOULD CLEAN UP THEIR ACT IN POLAND [420]

Until we describe or find out what kind of young Jews made rasist remarks or left mess in hotels, the thread is pointless.

Why is it our duty to describe or find out? We are the Poles, this is Poland, Jews coming here are our guests, the entire weight of sorting this out lies with them, we should simply use the most severe legal penalties untill they admit there is a problem and get around fixing it.

Jews are not one strong tied up group, but they have orthodox, reformists and others denominations or can be nonbelievers so can behave differently.

Does not matter, Jewish kids who come here are racist, the problem is massive in its scope and any fact finding needs to be taken care of by Israel, we only need to ensure effective punishment in Poland untill Israel reacts.
Sokrates   
27 Oct 2009
History / Did Ukraine really "steal" Polish land? [302]

Local Ukrainian population should be moved to Ukraine.

So are you willing to pay local Ukranians for the property they built in their time in Lwów and the area? There's not that much of it but its still worth a fortune or are you just calling for us to steal from them.

Populated by owners of property stolen by Soviets

Those owners are dead and most Poles dont have the proper documents which means every Joe can claim his family was from Lwów.

who would like to buy property cheaply.

You realise the immidiate region is populated by 2 milion people? To have Lwów even remotely operational we'd have to uproot valuable personnel (sorry but country rednecks just wont do you need engineers, doctors and others) which would destabilise the countrys economy.

I disagree with your assumption about weighted down economy- first because is illogical :)

In other words you're advocatting theft, expulsion and racist policies that brought us and Ukrainians to the point of war so many times before, good work champ, i'm glad you're a minority.
Sokrates   
27 Oct 2009
News / JEW YOUTH SHOULD CLEAN UP THEIR ACT IN POLAND [420]

Maregea why are you spamming this thread? No one gives a crap about Demjanuk, this post is about Jews being racist towards Poles when they come to Poland, whats the connection between Jewish racist behavior and Demjanuk?
Sokrates   
26 Oct 2009
History / Serbian contribution to Poland's independance after WWI [70]

Related? no, but you have to give some credit to the guy,

Yes Serbs were justified in their violence against Albanians, no i cannot give any credit to Crow, he attempts to sell his (valid) point about Serbias position in a terrible way.
Sokrates   
25 Oct 2009
History / Ranking of the most dangerous and successful enemies of Poland. [32]

First, Khmelnisky generated a lot of troubles both to Poland and Ukraine .

Not really, he was succesfull as long as Poland was busy dealing with the big boys, Sweden and Russia.

You may call him a rebel but he managed to sell Ukraine to Russia.

Russia would have taken a chunk of Ukraine anyway, he just gave it a semblance of legality.

1654 in so called Union of Pereyeslav he did it and I think it's ridiculous that some Ukrainians consider him to be a national freedom fighter.

Well he was a freedom fighter to a degree but he was not a major threat, Pejersław legalised a move Russia would make anyway so i dont see how was his role so huge.

More, he tried for the first time in history the partition of Rzeczpospolita in Radnot 1656, together with Sweden, Prussian elector, Rakostsi and Radziwils.

He didnt try anything Swedes, Russians, Rakoczy and Radziwiłs tried, he just jumped on the bandwagon but given that Polish armies butchered Rakoczy, scattered the Swedes and expelled the Russians (Lithuanians dealt with Radziwill) he was again alone and incapable of doing anything.

The wars of the deluge period were a conflict of very big boys, Poland, Lithuania, Sweden and Russia, Chmielnicki was just a small fish trying to win what he could by the side he viewed as the most powerfull at a time, he'd join Poles after they defeated all enemies and try to play it with them, the problem was that the moment Crown would lay its hands on him he'd end up with his head on Warsaws ramparts.

As for August II, his buddy/buddy relationship with Peter I caused more harm to Poland than both Suvorov, and Muraviev Vieshatel.

August II was never a Pole, he was a king of Saxony and didnt care much for Poland but neither him nor Peter wanted to destroy Poland, if you're referring to collateral damage the country suffered, that was because of our internal weakness, kings of the time as of rule didnt give a sh*t as to what happens to the countryside, Frederick the Great burnt his own cities to the ground.

You cant really classify two guys who waged wars in Poland but not against Poland as such as our enemies.

Bismarck ... I even don't try to compare him with Hitler however he wanted to
"ausradieren" us.
So simple ... to cancel all Poles.

Naturally, much of Prussian lands were lands they stole from Poland about 100 years earlier, it was in the interests of Prussian Germans to Germinize Poles so we dont take our lands back, even today you can see BB crying about oh so German Greater Poland region we took back even though it was in Germany for only 100 years and they stole it from us in the first place.

But still he wanted to do it by germanizing Poles not sending them to gas chambers like his inheritor Adolf Hitler would and he wasnt particulary succesfull at destroying polish identity either so he's not so bad in what he tried to do and what he tried to do he sucked at.

Bandera gave the ideological background for ethnic cleanings in Volhynia.

Yes and it was horrible but on a national scale Bandera was never really a threat, at no point in its existence was pre-war Ukraine a threat to Poland simply because of the huge military and economic disparity between us.
Sokrates   
25 Oct 2009
History / Did Ukraine really "steal" Polish land? [302]

A purely theoretical situation, we get Lwów back, now i have a couple of question, what would you assuming you're in power do with the local Ukrainian population, who would you settle Lwów with and how would you deal with our economy being weighed down with annexing such a large and extremely poor region?
Sokrates   
25 Oct 2009
History / Ranking of the most dangerous and successful enemies of Poland. [32]

Wow, man, this sh!t you're smoking is like, far out, or somethig, bro, like, totaly.

Whats wrong with this thread except for you being an idiot?

3.Ukrainian leader Bohdan Kmelnitsky

9.Ukrainian nationalists' leader Stephan Bandera

Those two guys dont even deserve a place here, one was a glorified rebel and the other a murderer, neither a threat to us as a nation.

8.Chancellor of Germany Otto von Bismarck

He didnt like us because we dared to demand our country back and he didnt relish giving back what his gramps stole but Bismarck while disliking us cant be exactly put in the same league as people like Hitler and Stalin, lets not slander him.

5.Polish king August II Elector of Saxony

How is he our enemy? He just didnt care.
Sokrates   
24 Oct 2009
History / Forgotten heroes - PZL angels [17]

There were only 9 built. And no September Campaign:

Then there appears to be a mix up, thats the info i got from the site admin along with pictures and permission to use them (i'm not into non-military pre war hardware) but thanks for straighting it up.
Sokrates   
24 Oct 2009
History / Serbian contribution to Poland's independance after WWI [70]

As far as I’m concerned we were talking about the potential of Slavic coalition forming within the structures of the EU

Yeah i'm sure the mighty Lithuanians and the gigantic and powerfull Czech Republic will rush to our aid against the evil backstabbing Germans.

Slaves at the moment are very much fractured

Slavs, slaves are people owned by a master, Slavs are people of Slavic ethnicity, and we've been very much fractured for the last 1100 years just like every other ethnicity in Europe.
Sokrates   
24 Oct 2009
History / Forgotten heroes - PZL angels [17]

RWD-9 was a sport plane built in a small series for the Challenge in 1934 (which btw. was won by Poland). No military use at all.

Sorry mate approximately 20 9s were used as recon planes in 1939 including the one pictured mainly because the new RWD did not roll down the factory line in time.
Sokrates   
24 Oct 2009
History / Serbian contribution to Poland's independance after WWI [70]

So the sentiment on the street is of no importance in your opinion.

The sentiment of the street is completely different, EU is widely accepted.

I never said it is, but you are looking for perception, one can find it if one looks hard enough for it.

Yeah if you look for something hard enough you can find anything that way, it doesnt mean Germany is our enemy, its definitely not our friend but we have common interests and prospects for not only proper but actually good and friendly relations in the future, i just cant see the ulterior motives you suspect them of.

all I’m saying is that the perception of Germany running the show within EU is there

Germany has the most powerfull economy, the largest population and is smack in the middle of Europe, their GDP is six times larger then ours (courtesy of America) and 30% larger then any other European state, you cant expect them not to have a major role in any European organisation they're in.

and as soon as that will be seen as a threat the Slavic coalition will emerge to counterbalance it, is that what really bothers you?

Slavic coalition of whom? Czechs will remain neutral, Ukraine is so poor they cant afford toilet paper and wipe with stray cats, Romania and Hungary have no business in engaging in a conlict against Germany unless they're threatened by Russia.
Sokrates   
24 Oct 2009
History / Forgotten heroes - PZL angels [17]

where did you get that photo from? !!!!!

Sent to me by a friend, he gave it to some site, its also in the national archives supposedly, the officer in the sunglasses in the back is his great great grandfather.
Sokrates   
24 Oct 2009
History / Serbian contribution to Poland's independance after WWI [70]

I know many of you are a doubting Thomas types and you want polls and statistic,

Well yeah facts do help form an opinion you know.

but that does not mean I’m wrong

The problem is there's not even an implication that what you say is true.

to see what the true perception of the populace is

The vast majority of Poles (according to polls) are pro European, thats what the true perception of the populace is at the moment.

It gives the perception that Germany is not really on our side.

Naturally, every country is on its own side which does not mean that Germany is against us, they and by extention Europe gave us money that propelled our re-development over a decade.

I dont really love Germany either but lets not give in to sentiments, there's reality to hang on to.

it’s the reluctance of allowing Polish workers to compete on the German or French job market that will be remembered by many.

Its not the reluctance, its the awareness that we having a superior work ethic and getting less for that would simply win any market, just like in UK where we basically conquered the job market on every possible level, but that doesnt mean they're against us, EU is not ideal and no one claims it is but eventually those markets will open to us.
Sokrates   
24 Oct 2009
History / Forgotten heroes - PZL angels [17]

I hope you dont mind if i butt in with some pictures Derek? (if you want i can send you a few).

RWD-9 recon plane in flight.
Pzl - £oś (moose) arrayed on an airfield.
Pzl-11 fighters on an September airfield.
Pzl-11 before or after combat mission, September 1939.
Wheeling on an airfield.
Female pilot next to her recon plane 1938.
Pilots probably in Poznań, my great uncle probably among them (he was a distant relative and confirmation is not really possible at that point).
Surfing on a sea plane, Baltic (probably 1937).
Karaś tactical bomber.
Airforce higher echelon officers.
Mechanics.
Young flight school cadets.
Sokrates   
24 Oct 2009
History / Serbian contribution to Poland's independance after WWI [70]

Not the demographic hole(they use third worldlers for that).The hole in quality manual workers,technicians etc.

Same thing, brain drain is even worse but like i said they're not doing it now and speaking of Slavic alliance, all countries around Poland are either large but pyss poor and unstable like Ukraine or small like Czech republic or Lithuania. There's two countries that we could use for a stronger position, Romania and Hungary but neither of them is Slavic.

Maybe so, but it’s the view of many that EU is nothing more than a private playground of the Germans.

No its not, Germans might want to dominate it but they have to contend with UK and its definitely not private.

precisely those policies that will eventually backfire on you

Which policies precisely?

many it’s crystal clear,

Its not crystal clear to me and i'm an euroskeptical Pole.

that’s not the way it’s perceived by many.

No i stated that its not happening, it might in the future but then we can talk, right now its just not happening.
Sokrates   
24 Oct 2009
History / Serbian contribution to Poland's independance after WWI [70]

We are talking about hypothetical future events

The only point where such an alliance would be warranted is if EU goes into division between old and new, there's a lingering risk that Western countries will use us to plug their demographic hole and as a dump market but thus far they're not doing that or even hinting at doing that so there's no real need to worry, besides who're you going to ally us with?

and it’s the policies of the EU itself that is unconsciously bringing possibility of such reality.

What policies? We're losing our shipyards because of the incompetence of our own government, EU gave us a fair shot and those cvnts in Warsaw screwed it.

There is a distinct possibility of EU turning malevolent as the West faces a crisis but right now its a fairly benevolent structure that helped us out massively.
Sokrates   
24 Oct 2009
History / Did Ukraine really "steal" Polish land? [302]

oh, so now you going to solve the Ukraine economic problems, although many other Poles have failed in the past - they just wanted to exploit it.

Oh thats easy, just kill enough people untill there's jobs for everybody! God you're dumb you cant read sarcasm when it slaps you in the face.

I think he's gay

I think you dont think, ever :)

not just something that was stolen from Poland

Quite a lot of Ukraine is exactly that, something stolen from Poland and made independent, however we recognize the nature of the situation and respect their sovereign existence, even if its on what was our lands.
Sokrates   
24 Oct 2009
History / Responsibility for Murder of Catholic Poles during WWII ? [172]

What if I would say that I don't like Poles?

Exactly! Nothing! Its your god given right and as long as you dont pull off Harry and mindlessly spit at everything its ok so stop spreading hysteria.

Be anti-Polish, if a Pole stole your girlfriend, took your work i dont care, i mind point out that you're anti-Polish but i'm not going to start spreading hysteria, its OK not to like people, its OK not to like Jews if someone has valid reason and there's loads of valid reasons not to like them, stop forcing people to be politically correct you twat.
Sokrates   
24 Oct 2009
History / Responsibility for Murder of Catholic Poles during WWII ? [172]

Of course, just admit you don't like Jews

Whats wrong with not liking Jews? I dont like them because of their religion, i dont like them because of their fascist little shythole in Palestine, i dont like them because of their approach to Poland, i dont like them becuse they teach their kids we worked with the nazis, i can think of at least 10 perfectly legitimate reasons why i think they're little bloody pricks.

It doesnt make me an anti-semit or a nazi just a guy who doesnt like jews, its perfectly normal not to like jews, cold tea or anything else, stop villyfying people for their personal views especially if they're based on legitimate reasons.

There's enough terrorising people with anti-semit smear on American forums.
Sokrates   
23 Oct 2009
Love / All Polish girls are like that? If you were her would you do the same? [62]

sleeping with different people is civilization?

No, its called sex. Btw did you know that approximately 40% of muslim men had a homosexual experience? Basically your civilization represses your natural instinct and makes you fags.

As i said before many times that i never forced her to change her life style, so it really doesnot mattter how is my culture cuz i adjusted to her because i dont want to loose her.

But you're expecting she will eventually and then you can love her so very very much, apparently though she has some survival instinct, good for her.
Sokrates   
23 Oct 2009
News / BNP far right in Poland [116]

No. It makes him a criminal.

It does? As far as i know there's no laws that regulate holocaust denial in Iran and since abroad he's protected by diplomatic immunity whats he's doing is completely legal.

Let's just say that Sokrates is actually a fascist

Borderline, in that i believe in disciplined society, i dont believe in the racial/totalitarian aspect though, call me heavily authoritarian if you will but i'm not going to run off with a bunch of baldies to beat up the first black guy i'll see.

Of course Sjam will not mention that since he's basically an anti-Polish racist bugger who'll grasp at every straw :)

He doesn't preach hate and prejudice?

Nope, he never called for any sort of repressions against Jews.

to hide behind so-called "facts".

Ah because facts that are uncomfortable for Mare-Gea immidietaly become the "so called facts" :)))

He calls Jewish people the enemies of Christ.

Given that their religion openly denies the Godhood of Christ and a fair amount of them do insult our faith and Jesus then yeah its an accurate description, of course it would be more accurate if he spoke of specific groups or people but its not without basis.

I don't defend this mad man, or slandering of people who happen to have different beliefs.

I'm not defending him i'm pointing out that using double standards you brand a guy who's not a nazi a fascist or even an anti-semite, he's got controversial views but they're not without basis.

It's easy to pinpoint the anti-semites and racists here on this forum.

All the people who disagree with you or with the Jews at large, amusingly the only openly Jewish guy here (Yehudi) was much more pleasant and rational to deal with then the Torah fan-club we've got here:)

You can call me an idiot all you want, but it's obvious that Nazi's have had massive support from within the Catholic Church.

Did it?
Sokrates   
23 Oct 2009
News / BNP far right in Poland [116]

Iran has Ahmedinejad talking about wiping another nation of the map and he is the LEADER of that nation!!!

Does not believing in the holocaust makes him a worse leader? Where does he talk about wiping out the whole nation?

Interestingly why dont you condemn Israel which does the talking and the whipinhg but are quick to jump on Irans head of state? Double standards perhaps?
Sokrates   
23 Oct 2009
News / BNP far right in Poland [116]

No, he just denies the Holocaust, and he calls Jewish people the enemies of Christ.

Yep, and neither of those makes him Nazi, in fact the guy despite being controversial and politically incorrect is a good Catholic and never preached hate or prejudice against any group.

He believes Jews are the enemies of the Christ and aim for world domination and wants them to ... convert to Catholicism. While ceirtanly controversial thats hardly a malevolent and hateful rhetoric.

Compare that to Hitler or Himmler and reflect upon your idiotic statement.
Sokrates   
23 Oct 2009
Love / All Polish girls are like that? If you were her would you do the same? [62]

My question to all Polish women, are you all heart breakers?

So if a Polish woman refuses to conform to your standards she's a heart breaker? Despite the outwardly loose approach to religion its a big thing for many Poles, if you're willing to drop it all for her, get a divorce, convert to Catholicism and try from there.

The way i see it you're a f*cking self centred hypocritical piece of shite (provided you're not a sock account) your entire posts screams "if she conforms to my standards i'll love her" which is typicall of the muslims really.

Newscast for you, if you indeed come from one of the goatloving states with arranged marriages et cetera then for a civilized European woman you could as well come from Mars, just being with you speaks volumes since i imagine the background you came from shows up in your everyday approach to women.

Leave her, leave Britain and get back to your country where you can find a woman who will accept you and everything you carry in your head, i sincerely doubt any civilized European girl can be happy with you long term.
Sokrates   
23 Oct 2009
News / BNP far right in Poland [116]

Nazi into the Church.. Mr. Williamson.

Sorry buddy, Williamson never even hinted that he's following or even remotely symphathetic to the Nazi ideology.
Sokrates   
22 Oct 2009
History / Poland Around 1883 [30]

Softsong Today, 19:40

You've got a point.

posen-l.com

Better way is to call the archidiecezja in Poznań and check the birth records that would match his grandfathers birth and name and roll from there.
Sokrates   
22 Oct 2009
History / Poland Around 1883 [30]

it will be listed as Posen,

I daresay that the name the cities primary inhabitants and true owners call it is more important then what the occupying force used to name it?
Sokrates   
21 Oct 2009
News / BNP far right in Poland [116]

You confuse SSPX and sedevacandist sect. The second are outside of the church. They don't recognize modern Popes.

My bad you're right.