Law / Renewing Karta pobytu in Warsaw [35]

There IS no info that Americans don't need the permit...not that I can find. The first I heard of this was in a post here but that person won't respond and say how they know this. The "law" doesn't say this anywhere anyone can show me. I asked a few people in the Immigration office and one guy said 'sometimes' it is true but others flat out said no you MUST have it...well it can't be both. It is or isn't ALWAYS required. If it is not...there has to be a criteria.

I need to know before I start this...as if it IS needed I will go another route.

Last week I went and was told to go today and ask for a certain person. I went today and the jerk shift must have been working as a few people told me "WE CANNOT CALL THIS PERSON..GO TO THE INFORMATION!!" Well the Information TOLD me to ask for this guy. It's ridiculous.

They wonder why people flip out and go on rampages in government offices.

Law / Renewing Karta pobytu in Warsaw [35]

Well....I showed the link to several Poles and they said it didn't say anything about American's not needing the permit. Explain to me how that is my fault or me not coping if I was given bad information? I can only know what I am told or experience...

I find it ridiculous that you can be angry at ME for the system being broken. I assure you I am not the only one having these issues.

Your reaction is typical here. People can't figure something out and they take it out on the person trying to sort it.

You tell me to stop bothering people? How about people post reliable TRUE and complete info rather than more ambiguity? I'd loved to have only asked once and gotten the true response...just like people would love to only have to go to the offices ONCE and not 20 f'ing times.

Put the blame where it belongs.

Law / Renewing Karta pobytu in Warsaw [35]

What is it with people here and the personal attacks?

If it makes you so angry stop replying. You are making excuses for Poland's faults and blaming it on me. I would not presume to blame you if you were in the US and some idiots or contradictions blocked you from accomplishing something. Typical for here...don't know something or feel stupid yourself?? Well the answer is to turn it on the other person and treat them like crap. See it all the time in shops.

And you insulted my friends too. That is disrespectful and you can't justify it.

News / Adult movie producers looking for 'actresses' in Poland or just a weirdo? [120]

djf don't worry...there are people who understand what you are getting at and are not getting their jollies on this site insulting others. It seems to be common here.

Law / Renewing Karta pobytu in Warsaw [35]

If you went into a shop and took some bread to the kasa and they would not tell you a price but told you must pay. What would you do? If you walk out they call the Police as you are stealing...if you leave it you don't eat.

How is this my fault?

I can't get true info from the people who make the process...so I thought I'd ask some people who have done it. Thats the only reason I asked in this "forum". Clearly that was a mistake and the problem is not the office but the attitude of the people here.

None of them answered with accurate info...and somehow I am the bad guy.

In "ROME" the "ROMANS" dont need a ******* karta pobytu!

The people who don't have a problem with this system have someone else arranging it for them. I don't have that luxury. You said 'many' people cope fine...well every single expat I know ******* constantly about this place...don't kid yourself that because they are polite in mixed company that they have no problems and everything works great.

My irritation stems from the fact that nobody knows answers to **** they require YOU to know.

Respect...help...and decency are in short supply in this country.

Thanks to those who were polite...and **** those who weren't. I extend politeness and respect as a matter of fact until people treat me like ****. I guess it is more fun to insult people than to help and be nice.

You can have your forum for Arabs to get dates and to argue about which girls are hotter. You have several posters here who are really poor quality people and say some awful things yet they don't get this much grief.

Generally I turn the other cheek. But I also believe in treating others the way you wish to be treated...but when they stop...I stop.

So to that end:

**** you mak****head. I didn't do a ******* thing to you yet you felt the need to berate me and insult my friends. Go suck a dick you arrogant ******* jack off. Ironically I will likely be banned and or the post deleted when those attacking me weren't. But at this point it doesn't matter as nobody here knows what the **** they are talking about anyway.

To the few good folks here like Sausage...no offense to you all but this site is overrun with people who are full of **** and get their jollies trying to knock others down. Usually it is a ****** minority ruining it for the masses. Here the masses are the problem.

Save your "see ya" and "good riddance" replies. It isn't clever nor bothering. Nor will I read them. But that won't stop you. "Internet" badasses just have to show how tough they are.

And you wonder why Poland gets so much grief...look in the mirror you twats. All you had to do was be polite. But that was too much to ask. Next time I see some dick shoving an old woman as they get off the bus I will think of you. Poland's finest.

Love / Help me: about polish girls [12]


I guess the load of Indian guys I see with Polish girls in Warsaw are a figment of my imagination?

Life / Buying a Phone in Warsaw - where to get English manual? [11]

If that is mandated it isn't followed. Most things I have purchased have at best PL, EST, LT, LV and CZ.

Law / Canadian applying for the European Residence Card in Poland [7]

The "girl" processing his file sounds like most of them I have met. They don't know the rules and make them up as they see fit. I'd ask a a couple other workers there and see what they say.

I have been flat out told something was impossible by one office multiple times only to have another office say "no problem" and do it in 5 minutes. There is no standard here.

You are kind of screwed trying to get the girl above to do anything as they will not make any effort to prove themselves wrong. I'd try to switch case managers.

Life / Buying a Phone in Warsaw - where to get English manual? [11]

Not the Orange salons in Warsaw. At least not the ones in the center. People think there is way more English info available here than there really is. I am noticing more and more young people who don't speak English at all too compared to a few years back. Could just be my perception but I have noticed this.

I'd also not buy electronics other than at a reputable shop as warranties and such won't be honored or valid at KDW or ebay etc. I know from experience.

Life / Buying a Phone in Warsaw - where to get English manual? [11]

Yeah prices are for sure better on Allegro or ebay...but I dont trust the sellers. Too many scams and fake products being sold. On ebay you can try to get a resolution if there is a problem but it is hit and miss...on Allegro forget it. I will pay more to have a legit item and safe warranty.

The prices in shops here ARE robbery and I only purchase what I have to here. I save important purchases for when I am out of Poland.

USA, Canada / No US Visa Waiver for Poles - 8/9/07 [96]

I am really not sure what the argument is here. There is a reason Poles are not allowed visa free travel to the US...it was said above.

There is a mininimum threshold for illegals from a country for it to be allowed visa free travel. Poland has a higher percentage if illegals in the US than is allowed. The countries that are allowed have a number under that threshold.

This is not some conspiracy against Poland. Does it suck for honest Poles? Hell yeah. But it's not some insult or scheme to keep Poles out. Once the amount of people overstaying their legal visas goes down Poland will be admitted to the program.

What is so complicated about this?

News / POLES STILL NEED VISAS TO THE U.S.A!! [84]

Can an admin delete this thread please?

This is blatant racism and should not be allowed one way like this or at all really.

This is about the third thread on this old topic the last days and they keep getting more aggressive and ignoring facts. This is NOT an anti Poland policy. Poland has to follow the same rules as anyone.

Every time this whining drivel is posted I will point out the facts...that Poland doesn't get free visa travel because too many stay illegally..more than the minimum. That is the only reason. It's not a conspiracy, it's not to snub Poland. Once the percentage of illegals is below the minimum Poland will be allowed visa free.

Real Estate / Building new house what are the prices like in Poland? [8]

I would get references and check SEVERAL examples of the work of whoever you hire as a builder as well...even talk to the owners of those houses and ask them if they were happy or if they had any problems. If the builder gets insulted by this or try to avoid the issue RUN AWAY. Any good craftsman would be happy to show his quality and gain another customer. Cheaper is NEVER better in this arena. I have heard people complain a lot of the general availability of good skilled labor the last years. It is going to be your home for years or for life so don't risk problems for a few zl.

News / POLES STILL NEED VISAS TO THE U.S.A!! [84]

So you are saying since sometimes laws are broken then it means we should just get rid of them?

You are Polish...tired of the US and trying to come back to Poland...it's pretty clear you are biased.

The USA has many problems just like any other place but overall it is a good place with good people. Poland has no moral or quality of life superiority...it's just your home and you will always have a special place for that in your heart.

I know it doesn't speak for all Poles...well I hope not anyway...but the one's who post here are VERY racist and egotistical generally.

Life / Paying bribes in Poland - necessity or a luxury? [41]

In Warsaw homeless or just less than clean looking guys hang around many of the parking areas and ask for money to 'watch' your car. If you don't pay this little bribe often something "happens" to your car.

I have had police outside of Warsaw play the bribe game when they pulled us over for speeding..which we were not..after a serious argument and us asking them to call their supervisor to come out or we would they let us go but acted like they were just giving us a warning this time.

I do have to say in the city of Warsaw at least the Police are generally friendly and upstanding in my experience.

I hate extortionists and corrupt idiots though.

News / POLES STILL NEED VISAS TO THE U.S.A!! [84]

So since lots of people want to see the USA we should allow even more people in there who will stay illegally and put more of a burden on the US?

The visa thing is reasonable. It's people who think they deserve something and refuse to put the blame on their own countrymen who are ruining it for them that are not.

I know that if a huge number of Americans were coming to and living illegally in Poland, and they had to get a visa and complained about it, that you would think very differently than you do now. The hypocrisy is astounding.

News / POLES STILL NEED VISAS TO THE U.S.A!! [84]

Warsaw...from the States though as I have mentioned.

I am not saying Poles shouldn't be allowed in the US or something stupid. Just saying everyone has to follow the rules and so many Poles think it is some personal insult.

I have had more than my fair share of trouble with immigration stuff here so I get that it is frustrating...but direct the anger where it belongs...to the illegal Poles mucking it up for the honest ones.

News / POLES STILL NEED VISAS TO THE U.S.A!! [84]

It is an attempt and stops more than if there was no barrier...you know that.

There obvioulsy is no perfect or even great solution at hand...but you can't drop the rules because some people are put off by them. It's better than nothing. This way they can TRY to filter out people more likely to stay.

I still say if the shoe was on the other foot this wouldn't even be discussed here.

News / POLES STILL NEED VISAS TO THE U.S.A!! [84]

No...I didn't mean that, I know what he means as I am on that side of things. I am saying the Poles wouldn't care in the least if Yanks were not allowed here (Poland) without visas. In fact when topics of Poland's inconsistent and unclear immigration policies come up those complaining about it get slammed and insulted. It is very one way here.

My point is the hypocrisy. I don't think most people complaining about this are interested in fairness...I think they just want 'theirs'. If another country was not allowed in without a visa I don't think anyone here would be upset at all or call it unfair. It is about their selfishness and refusal to admit who is responsible for them not being allowed in. I am pleased to see some posters here realize that.

News / POLES STILL NEED VISAS TO THE U.S.A!! [84]

This isn't about doing 'favors' for an ally. Latvia meets the threshold for illegals...Poland does not..it is simple. I'd say giving Poland special treatment because they are an ally would be unfair. Nobody cares about fairness until it affects them.

I also have no illusions that Poland is a USA ally because they love American and our ways...they do it because they KNOW the USA is the most powerful nation 'for now' that fits roughly into their belief system and they know it has advantages to be the big boys's friend. (ie I can't see Poland aligning with Russia even if Russia was the biggest power)

Nations are only friends for what they can get from others so it doesn't hold water to say that Poland is being a "friend" and not getting enough favors in return.

News / POLES STILL NEED VISAS TO THE U.S.A!! [84]

Not maybe...for sure. This is not an ambiguous issue. People generally don't care about the rules until they affect them directly. Had she followed the rules she would not have a problem now.

I don't like how hard it is to get things done here in Poland but I know if I don't follow the rules and stay illegally this can happen to me. Lot's of Poles go to the US with the intention of doing this...I know several myself.

If Americans in large numbers were doing this in Poland the Poles would be up in arms. Let's just be honest.

The guy who posted this topic is a Pole in Canada...angry the US is restrictive even though there is a reason...and he then says "@$#%@ the USA" and things like that. This attitude is ridiculous. It's not about Poland it is about selfish children not getting their way.

I don't understand how Polish people stand living in Poland if rules and bureaucracy bothers them this much...it is much worse here than in the USA.

News / POLES STILL NEED VISAS TO THE U.S.A!! [84]


So am I hearing you correctly that you think Poland should be exempt from the same rules every other country in the world have to follow? Because of perceived favors?

News / POLES STILL NEED VISAS TO THE U.S.A!! [84]

I just can't stand the notion that Poland is such a loyal and honorable friend of the USA that they deserve to be able to ignore the laws everyone else has to follow.

Poland uses the USA just as the USA uses Poland.

Funny how the missile shield was approved once Russia invaded Georgia..as I said nothing matters to anyone util they have something to gain or lose by it.

News / POLES STILL NEED VISAS TO THE U.S.A!! [84]

Fair enough.

But if the average person you say this bothers really thinks the USA as a whole cares that they think about this they are kidding themselves.

Just like Poland as a country could care less that I have trouble getting anything done here.

I think lots of people imagine themselves to be more important to others than is reality.

News / POLES STILL NEED VISAS TO THE U.S.A!! [84]

It't not a 'snub' to require people to follow the rules. That's the differentiation a lot of people can't get. They act like Poland is being abused or mistreated when they are simply being required to do the same thing EVERY OTHER COUNTRY is.

News / POLES STILL NEED VISAS TO THE U.S.A!! [84]

RIIIGGGHT!

Hard working has nothing to do with it. Poorer nations always flock to richer ones for money and work. Poland has people from poorer countries working in restaurants and labor jobs as well. It trickles down hill. There is nothing inherently more hard working about Polish people or Mexicans either. When a nation becomes comfortable they always hire out the less desirable jobs to people willing to take less pay and like I said above Poland it no different. Look at all the Chinese being hired to do construction etc here in Warsaw.

News / POLES STILL NEED VISAS TO THE U.S.A!! [84]


Wow you are insane. I never said that and do not think that.

You are clearly a racist and care nothing about fairness in this instance.

Just as some Americans act in ways that make the USA look bad you are embarrassing your country. I feel pity for the good Poles who have to fight the image people like you give to the world.

News / POLES STILL NEED VISAS TO THE U.S.A!! [84]

"Typical of an American....believe rules are from God"

Yep..racist...and incredibly hypocritical.

News / POLES STILL NEED VISAS TO THE U.S.A!! [84]

The missile shield was approved because Poland is scared of Russia's intentions. Poland said no to it until Georgia was invaded. You cannot tell me that is being a US lapdog...that is self preservation.

Poland buys what it can afford. How many F-22s (were they for sale) do you think Poland could buy? One? Maybe two?

The Polish military is in Iraq to get experience at warfighting which could be invaluable if Poland ever needs to defend itself. They also get a TON of support from the US financially, training and equipment wise. You act like they are there for some nefarious reason and the US is tricking them somehow. They CHOOSE to be there.

I don't think most of you would ever be happy unless Poland rules the world and everyone worshiped at the feet of the mermaid...errr...tail of the mermaid?

News / POLES STILL NEED VISAS TO THE U.S.A!! [84]

Hello you are not an expert on the American educational system. Your opinion is simply that.

If I said the things you say I would be told to "leave then" by people here...in fact I have been told that.

And...Poland IS a Russian target missile shield or not.

Strategically and out of Putin's grudge against all former Soviet areas.

Poland NEEDS help from more powerful nations but the ego makes it so hard to admit or accept.