Genealogy / Has anyone taken Genealogy DNA tests? [87]

I'm not sure where you tested but it's always good to find other databases. Check as many as possible. smgf.org Google mitochondrial DNA databases and see if you can search them. Not all mtdna's are on mitosearch. Nothing but an exact match will do with mtdna. Even with an exact match a common ancestor may be a 1000 years in the past.

Genealogy / Searching for information on Ryl &Gornicz surnames [3]

Brian,

There are two Uników's in Poland, plus two others that have other names associated with it. Each is in a different district. But all in southern Poland.

There are 25 SÅ‚upia's. Do you suspect your parent's would have lived close to each other? If it was earlier prior to 1900's I'd say they would have to be.

You can start on Ancestry.com, but the records you have are potentially not old enough. You may have to contact the local district administrator. Always good to see if the town or district has a webpage.

On Moikrewni.pl/mapa this information is available for 2002 census two forms of the name may exist Ryl and Rył. I looked up both. The information just provides and indication on how common the name is in Poland today and where "potential" living relatives may be concetrated. Not all Ryl's may be related. go to the site. I use this website to get the Polish letters I need.

W Polsce jest 537 osób o nazwisku Ryl.
ZamieszkujÄ… oni w 90 różnych okrÄ™gach i miastach. NajwiÄ™cej zameldowanych jest w s. £Ã³dź a dokÅ‚adnie 38.
Dalsze okrÄ™gi/miasta ze szczególnie dużą liczbÄ… osób o tym nazwisku £Ã³dź (26), Å»ary (22), s. WrocÅ‚aw (22), CheÅ‚m (17), s. WaÅ‚brzych (16), GÅ‚ogów (15), s. CheÅ‚m (15), Piotrków Trybunalski (14) i Warszawa z liczbÄ… wpisów 14.

Statystyka: Liczby do nazwiska 'Rył'
W Polsce jest 271 osób o nazwisku Rył.
Zamieszkują oni w 35 różnych okręgach i miastach. Najwięcej zameldowanych jest w Sieradz a dokładnie 60.
Dalsze okrÄ™gi/miasta ze szczególnie dużą liczbÄ… osób o tym nazwisku Wieruszów (30), s. WrocÅ‚aw (28), s. £Ã³dź (24), WoÅ‚omin

Genealogy / Looking for Jozwiak family history [4]

Number by variation in Poland (2002 census) Jozwiak (10), Jożwiak (3), Jóżwiak (93), Joźwiak (9) (moikrewni.pl/mapa)

Lower than I anticipated. Am I missing a variation?

Determine which variation is the ancestral spelling and it'll be a little easier to determine potential living relatives. But immigration records should have home town available.

Did Joseph come over by boat. Records may be available.

Genealogy / Bula surname [4]

According to moikrewni.pl surname map:

Statystyka: Liczby do nazwiska 'Bula'
W Polsce jest 1565 osób o nazwisku Bula. - 1,565 Bula's in Poland (2002 census)
Zamieszkują oni w 74 różnych okręgach i miastach. Najwięcej zameldowanych jest w Lubliniec a dokładnie 158. - 74 different locations in Poland with 158 located in Lubliniec.

Other towns include see below
Dalsze okręgi/miasta ze szczególnie dużą liczbą osób o tym nazwisku Katowice (156), Tarnowskie Góry (124), Bieruń i Lędziny (97), Chorzów (91), Tychy (88), Bytom (83), Siemianowice Śląskie (74) i Piekary Śląskie z liczbą wpisów 50.

Hot spots are in Southern Poland for that surname.

So are you sure its Bula and not Buła?

Genealogy / Has anyone taken Genealogy DNA tests? [87]


I suggest contacting all your high resolution matches (if you have not done so already) and see how your family tree matches up - if at all. Have you entered your results into mitosearch.org ? Public datbase where I found some additional matches. One person has a family tree going back to the late 1600's! I just found out who my great grandmother was and I've still got work to do. Hopefully this summer or fall I have the paper published describing the whole process.

Genealogy / Archives- I really need your help folks [14]

Consription records may be available. Each man had to serve in the military for the occupying country. Russians, Austrians, Prussians kept good records. Just need to know which partition the realtives were from. Often they list other family members.

Genealogy / Has anyone taken Genealogy DNA tests? [87]


It just goes to show that you really don't know your haplogroup until you test. I bet the family history is a little bit richer now with that information. Did you have the HVRI or HVRI and II test? If only HVR I then upgrade to HVR II and then you can find some exact matches that may be more closely related. The problem with mtDNA is that identical matches may be related from thousands of years ago.

I'm H2b and at HVR I (the basic test) I have over a 1000 matches, but at HVR II I had 9. I'm working on a paper to describe all this. I'm considering doing a Full Sequence MtDNA test to potentially find out more information.

Genealogy / Cupiał - a Polish surname? [19]


I could not find it in Hoffman Polish Surnames: Origins and Meaning, but he covers a majority of the more common names. And nothing even similar. Just being in the Krakow area could make it Góralskie but I can't say it is. In Polish the name kinda sounds cool prounced "chu pea ow"

Genealogy / Death Certificates best bet for genealogy search?? [10]

If you are in Illinois then join the Polish Genealogical Society of America. It's based in Chicago and has reasearch Saturdays that people can come in and get assistance. go to pgsa.org to look up that info. Also there is an annual conference in the suburbs of Chicago. Great place to find all sorts of cool genealogy books and people.

The PGSA has a number of church records from Chicago and also obituaries from th Dzienik Chicagoski (polish paper) for many years. Church records from Poland are a different story and you'll need to know ancestral Village and then you can fid the closest Church. Inofrmation regarding the church may be on the web.

Genealogy / Death Certificates best bet for genealogy search?? [10]

Any documents that you can get are valuable. Death certificates, birth certificates and census records can give you a lot of information. It all depends on how far back you want to go. Church records are also valuable. Every little piece counts in the story of your family history.

Genealogy / Cupiał - a Polish surname? [19]

Polack2 and Caroline11

On Moikrewni.pl
W Polsce jest 1608 osób o nazwisku Cupiał. (1608 people with the surname Cupiał)
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Zamieszkują oni w 102 różnych okręgach i miastach. Najwięcej zameldowanych jest w Myszków a dokładnie 232.

Most important for you asre the bolded locations (see attached map)
Dalsze okręgi/miasta ze szczególnie dużą liczbą osób o tym nazwisku Zawiercie (167), Sosnowiec (156), Chrzanów (138), s. Kraków (106), Kraków (93), Olkusz (67), s. Częstochowa (38), Dąbrowa Górnicza (34) i Będzin z liczbą wpisów 26.

W Polsce jest 1608 osób o nazwisku Cupiał.
Zamieszkują oni w 102 różnych okręgach i miastach. Najwięcej zameldowanych jest w Myszków a dokładnie 232.
Dalsze okręgi/miasta ze szczególnie dużą liczbą osób o tym nazwisku Zawiercie (167), Sosnowiec (156), Chrzanów (138), s. Kraków (106), Kraków (93), Olkusz (67), s. Częstochowa (38), Dąbrowa Górnicza (34) i Będzin z liczbą wpisów 26.

Yup, there are still some there in the ancestral area. Seems like the Kraków area is a hotspot. Start from your family and work backwards and then consider contacting potential lost relatives in Poland. Caroline11 or parents may still have contact with people back in Poland. Compare family trees.

• Attached file: Map of Cupia³ in Poland
  

Genealogy / tobur [11]

Before contacting anybody in Poland, you'll need to do some research in the U.S. (I assume) about when you relatives came here, and their ancestral town. So start with your family first to go as far back as you can, all the while writing this information down and starting a family tree. The site moikrewni.pl has an english version call itsourtree.com. You can do that online or buy some software such as family tree maker (there are several kinds out there). There are also several book on Polish Genealogy that will provide guidance for searching local and international archives. After you have located records that clearly state that you surname is spelled correctly when you ancestors arrived then you can seek the ancestral village. If its near where the current Poles are living on the map then you can consider contacting them. Someone will be able to translate a letter for you (perhaps even on this website).

If you really get into this like I have, consider joining the Polish Genealogical Society of America (pgsa.org) or any other local organization. We all need help with this genealogy stuff and there are lots of people willing to help out.

First find out if your surname hasn't changed and then where it originated. The take it from there. Start with family first. They may not reveal anything good at first but continue questioning until their memories are re-freshed.

Genealogy / Poris, any info on this surname? [11]

W Polsce sÄ… 32 osoby o nazwisku Porys.
Zamieszkują oni w 5 różnych okręgach i miastach. Najwięcej zameldowanych jest w s. Wałbrzych a dokładnie 14.
Dalsze okręgi/miasta ze szczególnie dużą liczbą osób o tym nazwisku Ropczyce (8), Racibórz (4), s. Rzeszów (4) i s. Wrocław z liczbą wpisów

Porys also comes up on Mapa Nazwisk in Moikrewni.pl . S. Wałbrzych is also listed for this surname variant.
The pronunciation would be almost identical in English and Polish. Good insight Syrena.

Genealogy / Konina, Poland [16]

Sutor

Stephen Morse's site is very handy. I met him last year at the PGSA conference near Chicago. I had a glitch with my laptop prior to presenting at the conference and he was able to get me going. Although I missed his speech (since we were on at the same time in different rooms) I heard that he has made it easier for lots of people doing searches.

Take a look at their website pgsa.org (which is ok). If you have anymore questions I'll try to answer them.

Genealogy / Poris, any info on this surname? [11]

Talk to your relatives and get as much information as you can from them. Prepare yourself first with questions so you can get what you need. Good luck!

Genealogy / Skrzynski Family from Chicago [6]

Anytime you feel there may be a potential for a family relationship consider having a Y-DNA test done (for guys only). This can be used to confirm familial ties.

I recommend Family Tree DNA - ftdna.com. They have a Polish Project where you can get a discount. I've been working on finding potential lost realtives using their testing.

Genealogy / Konina, Poland [16]

Wonderful. I am very happy for you! Keep going further back in time. This may be challenging, but worth it. If you ever wish to pursue genealogy for the long term consider joining the Polish Genealogical Society of America. They have great resources and a quarterly publication. I am a member.

Genealogy / Konina, Poland [16]

Deb21

Sutor has done some good legwork for you. Just confirm the names and dates so that he has the right information. There are occassions that people with the same first and last name with similar birth years may show up on the same ship. Otherwise, if the information is correct you should be very happy. Sutor should at least tell you which websites he gleaned the information.

Sutor did you use stephenmorse.com?

Genealogy / tobur [11]

Nope. And I have no Lis or Liss in my family tree. Czerwone Lis mean "red fox" in Polish. But if you know of any Sliwinski's head them over to my surname posting.

Genealogy / Requesting any information on surname Mielniczuk [13]

According to Hoffman (1998) in Polish surnames: Origins and Meanings Mielniczuk is listed and does refer to "Miller" but no derogatory context is listed. In his publication there were approx 2766 people with this surname in Poland based on the 1990's census.

As of the more recent 2002 census information 2793 people share the same surname in Poland. At moikrewni.pl the Mapa Nazwisk shows an high concentration of that surname along the south eastern Polish Russian border associated with several jurisdictions. With others spread out through Poland.

At mapa.szukacz.pl Krzememniec is nowhere near Tarnopol. However there are 5 places with that name (Krzemeniec) or variations of such. All located in southern half of Poland.

Using these resources may provide some insight when tied to specific information that you have. First the correct Krzemeniec location is the thing to find.

Genealogy / tobur [11]

Rare name in Poland, according to the Mapa Nazwisk at Moikrewni.pl there 5 people with the surname in southern Poland. So go to moikrewni.pl and at the bottom of the page you'll see Mapa Nazwisk a surname mapping search engine. Click. Type in your surname and click to the right and you'll see the two locations (not towns but like a township or county) s. Bielsko-Biała -3 people and 2 at s. Częstochowa

See if that rings a bell. Remember this is a more recent census information so people may have moved since immigration times.

Genealogy / Kochan and Mokowo, Poland [14]

Kohan does not show up on mapa.szukacz.pl a mapping search engine.

Please double check the name of place and origin of the relative it may be a germanize version. Just a guess.

Genealogy / Fabiszewski [5]

If you go to moikrewni.pl and go to the bottom of the page you will find Mapa Nazwisk. Click on that and you will get a surname mapping program. Type in your surname. According to the database there are 834 people in Poland with that surname in a relatively recent census. You will have to find Konin on a separate map and compare to where it is on the generated map. There are 12 places that have the Konin as place names in Poland. you can see that on mapa.szukacz.pl type Konin in the box under Miejscowość (top right) (when you get to the page that loads automatically). You can zoom in to any one of them. You'll have to compare maps.

Genealogy / Polish gypsies and the word "Mollyglassen (sp?)" [11]

Ligiejko is the only name that showed up in Mapa Nazwisk at moikrewni.pl.

Very rare name, but look it up on the site. Go to the website and go to the bottom of the page and click on Mapa Nazwisk and type in your name. A map will be generated. Doesn't mean they are related but it may provide some clues on locations.

Genealogy / Poris, any info on this surname? [11]

If its Poriz then there are two people as of a recent census that are from Wałbrzych area in southwestern Poland. Go to moikrewni.pl and go to the bottom of the page and click on Mapa Nazwisk. From there type in Poriz and up will come a map of Poland with that location.

There was no Poris in Mapa Nazwisk. I'll check one more source.

Genealogy / Has anyone taken Genealogy DNA tests? [87]

OK guys and gals. Witek has presented a lot of good information regarding haplogroup R1a. However, that is not the only haplogroup in Poland. There are many others and even if you find out that you are N, J, Q or any other group even R1b, if you consider yourself a Pole, then you are!

I am Y-DNA R1a1 (at 67 Markers) and MtDNA H2b (HVRI and II). My parents are from Poland. I was also curious to see if I was "Polish" genetically.

Go to the family tree dna website ftdna.com and search for the Polish Project. I'm a friend of the co-adminstrator and can tell you that he is extremely helpful to everybody.

Right now there are two people working on subgroups of R1a1 to determine even more deeper ancestral information. Currently I fit into a subgroup that may be the oldest and possibly related to the Sarmatians that lived around 500BC to 450AD.

R1a is widespread but there are historical reasons for this widespread group including alliances with the Vikings and Romans to invade other countries.

Ladies (and men also) you are able to have a mitochondrial test done to determine you ancestral haplogroup (clan). The results are not as sharp as for YDNA. My matches at high resolution resulted with people from Ireland, Norway and France.

Costs are relative to how much you want to get into this whole thing. Shy away from the cheapest test as they provide the most ambiguous information.

Genealogy / Surname: GRODSKI : Need help [7]

In "Polish Surnames: Origins and Meanings" by Hoffman Grodski may be taken from Grocki or Grodzki. Grod can mean to enclose or fence, or fortress, city.

If you can find the original immigration information on you ancestors it will help to see if their name was changed.

Genealogy / Poris, any info on this surname? [11]

Hi fly!

Looking at two resources Polish surnames: Origins and Meaning by Hoffman and Moikrewni.pl under Mapa Nazwisk page, I was not able to find that surname.

Is it possible it was mispelled. If they came to America through a port their data may be recorded on-line.

Similar surname could possibly be Popis, Poros and Poraz but they have different meanings. You definitely need to find some documents that have the name spelled out. Or you are right and Poris is not a Polish name.