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IronsE11   
3 Dec 2008
News / What did Poland get out of the wars and struggles for others? [1108]

falsely claiming a unique victim status, crying about how other nations should have dropped everything and saved them, a failure to accept that maybe other nations had other priorities at the time.

Nail on head.
IronsE11   
3 Dec 2008
Love / Why are Polish girls so emotional [16]

Whilst I am loathed to stereotype, I would be lying if I said I didn't recognise some of those traits in my girlfriend. I do however think it can be applied to a number of women, not only Polish.

Insecurity can sometimes be sweet, but at other times it can be a bit tedious. The only thing I find genuinely annoying is that it doesn't always work both ways...
IronsE11   
20 Nov 2008
UK, Ireland / What exactly is the process to get into the UK? [44]

I would ask the question:

'Is London at all easy on the natives'

You will find a number of places in London where the majority of people are Polish.
IronsE11   
18 Nov 2008
Life / muslim community in poland [430]

What would you say to someone who said the following:

I just do not like Poles, I do not like their values, I do not like how they look at others, I do not like their language, the pronouncaition and stuff. I do not like many other peoples, but Poles are on top of the list for at least two other reasons I have to tell here:

- the dumb among them have problems realizing the place god gave them in this live
- they are becoming too f8cking many around here. And I do not support drastic measures, but some day something will be done about that.

Do you realise how stupid your argument is? I very much doubt you have ever had any kind of personal rrelationship with a Muslim person, so how are you in a position to judge an entire culture based on your prejudices?

guess you could substitue polish for muslim

You beat me to it.
IronsE11   
18 Nov 2008
Life / muslim community in poland [430]

edit this now!!!............ troll ....but anyway who are you ? a second class citizens like mr asssssssh786 hole
my dog is more british than you two

espana in not understanding a post shocker... It was said with tongue firmly placed in cheek, but I suspect you know that anyway babes ;)

And what is your obsession with me not being English/British?
IronsE11   
18 Nov 2008
Life / muslim community in poland [430]

"No!" to Islam in Poland!

Nothing like a constructive argument.

F*ck it why not...

"No!" to Poles in London!

... Edit ... (itsa wortheless)

Too late ;)
IronsE11   
18 Nov 2008
Life / muslim community in poland [430]

All because I don't believe the ramblings of a dishonest, grief-stricken, senile sex pest. He's a Muslim by the way ;)

I don't believe all of the propoganda fed to me by the British/American/whatever government, but by the same token I don't believe every single conspiracy theory, unless there is some compelling evidence to back it up.

It's people like you that breed some of the anti-Islam sentiment evident on this thread. It's a shame because I have so many Muslim friends who would view you as a disgrace to their religion.
IronsE11   
18 Nov 2008
Life / muslim community in poland [430]

Quite the clown aren't you. Ok let's entertain your theory... so what if the driver wasn't drunk? Does that prove that it was all a conspiracy? Your theory is perfect with the little exception of having little or no evidence to support it.

As I have already stated, why would you believe the ramblings of a dishonest, grief-stricken, senile sex pest.
IronsE11   
18 Nov 2008
Life / muslim community in poland [430]

You mean: Jean Charles de Menezes?

I really don't know where to begin. He WAS innocent.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Charles_de_Menezes#Ticket_barrier

i bet you doubt the m15 and the monarchy didnt engineer the plot to murder diana aswell????shows your intelligence....

Do you realise what you have written? No I don't doubt that M15 and the monarchy didn't engineer the plot to murder Diana. In fact I'm pretty positive.

I am open to most theories, just not when the majority of evidence consists of the ramblings of a grief-stricken senile sex pest.

I hope that answers your question.
IronsE11   
18 Nov 2008
Life / muslim community in poland [430]

The tragedy at Omagh was perpetrated by opponents of the IRA, who had broken away from them some time earlier because they objected bitterly to IRA/Sinn Fein's part in the peace process. The bombers gave no warning. At least the IRA, despite all their evil deeds, and cruelty, had at least some basic standards.

That is true. The perpertrators weren't Muslim though, and they did target civilians (the blood of innocents).

Though back to Muslims in Poland (or rather Islamist terrorism), I remember that after the yellow emergency phones were installed on the Warsaw metro, the police reported that they were getting up to 30 calls a day, mostly from old ladies who rang to say they'd seen a black person.

That doesn't surprise me. At least they are vigilant.

Given Poland's role in Afghanistan, and especially Iraq, it is very good that there hasn't been an attack here.

It's a possibility. Actively supporting the USA's imperialist crusades in the middle East hasn't exactly endeared Poland and the UK to the average person, let alone Muslims with millitant tendancies.

if that had turned out to be an innocent young muslim going to work shot dead by about 15 bullets to the head guaranteed they would have fabricated everything and said he was a terrorist and the funny thing is you people would have believed it and today you would be saying"well what about that guy that london police shot dead before he could blow anything up".??SICK

I find that very hard to believe. I doubt Ian Blair would have possessed the nous to engineer quite such a cover up. I mean he did try first time round. JCM was a tragic accident, a victim of the climate of fear present at the time and police incompetence.
IronsE11   
18 Nov 2008
Life / muslim community in poland [430]

The issue of Islam, its presence in Europe and Islamist terrorism has polarised people.

True, the sensible thing is to maintain a bit of perspective. recognise that there is a problem, but not judge every Muslim as a terrorist.

Eta always phoned in warnings before it attacks . the muslims rat not :(

Same with the IRA. The Islamists just seem to want to see the blood of innocents.

Just like the Omagh bomb? I'm sure these honourable warnings are a source of great comfort to the families of those killed in the attack.

But like with Eta and IRA there are links to the country they are bombing..unlike these Islamists!

Of course, the links to the country... that makes it ok then, silly me. I guess the actions of Hezbollah and Hamas can be excused then? Let's have some consistency here.
IronsE11   
18 Nov 2008
Life / muslim community in poland [430]

The fact that a thread on the Muslim community in poland has been turned in to a debate about Islamic terrorism speaks volumes for a number of people on this site.
IronsE11   
18 Nov 2008
Life / muslim community in poland [430]

wahabhism is a extreme branch of islam that flows from suadi arabia.like aasmani said,why do you think the u.s is so friendly with saudi arabia yet all the 9/11 bombers were from saudi arabia,not 1 came from iraq or afghanistan..osama bin laden is from saudi arabia.the bin laden family have multi million dollar businesses in th u.s..and quite frankly bin laden is just a name used to justify launching attacks where ever the west feels like.

Yeah, why haven't the US done anything about Saudi Arabia, hotbed of millitant Islamic fundamentalism that it is?
IronsE11   
18 Nov 2008
Life / muslim community in poland [430]

you make a generalization of America.. dont include me in this, i dont/didnt/neverdid/against/opposed..

No, I was making a point that you CAN'T generalise like this. Jesus Pat, this isn't the first time you've responded to one of my posts without reading or understanding it properly. You made yourself look silly last time...

how can such a large alliance not be able to control the taliban and other groups with such a large number of fighters?
if you say that there is such low numbers of terrorists.. show some proof..

OH but you cant, because the number is alot higher then you thought!!
and this number has been growing since before 9/11.

Yes there are a large number of Taliban in Afghanistan. What does that prove. I was simply making the point that the average muslim is not a terrorist. Please please please read my posts properly.

It will not help him. He is already a blindfolded man.

*falls of chair*

Re-read some of your own posts.
IronsE11   
17 Nov 2008
Life / muslim community in poland [430]

there's this funny connection between islam and terrorism isn't there and you can't deny it.

Jesus JustysiaS, have you not heard of ETA, the Tamil Tigers or the IRA. Terrorism is not directly linked with Islam or vice-versa. As I have illustrated, you can find examples of such terrorist organisations across the globe. These terrorist organisations simply form the militant arm of political movements. Their methods are brutal because it is the most effective way of achieving their aims.

There are a number of people who feel sympathy with these movements, but do not support the methods employed by the terrorist groups. Just because someone believes in a united Ireland, that does not mean to say they condone the actions of the IRA. Just because a Muslims resents the actions of the US and UK in the Middle East, it does not mean they condone the actions of Al Queda and related organisations.

I have sympathy for the plight of the Palestinian people, I do not support some of the methods employed by Hamas.

obviously there are normal decent people among muslims but the baddies always stand out and there are a lot of muslim baddies out there plotting what to bomb next as we speak.

I think you grossly overestimate the proportion of Muslims who are involved with, or support such activity.

Just don't make all Muslims accountable for the actions of a tiny proportion of nutters. It's equivalent to someone holding you or I accountable for civilian deaths in Iraq.
IronsE11   
17 Nov 2008
Life / muslim community in poland [430]

you got it all wrong dude and i suggest you stop trying to read between the lines cos you're trying too hard.

Bless you dear, you completely misunderstood my point.

i was talking about were the muslim extremists who kill innocent people in the US and Europe just cos Bush sent soldiers to Iraq and Afghan

As opposed to the Christian country that started a war in Iraq, just because some Saudi nutters hijacked some planes and crashed them in to buildings?

you think im an enthusiast and supporter of the war in Iraq cos i think all muslims are terrorists and they ought to be killed?

Here lies the problem. You can't distingush between a tiny proportion of nutters, who twist Islam to commit these atrocities, and the vast majority of Muslims who are decent people, just like anybody else. From the way you bang on about it, anybody would think that every other Muslim is prepared to blow themselves up for the cause. I'm sorry, but it's just not the case.
IronsE11   
17 Nov 2008
Life / muslim community in poland [430]

prefer to stick to NOW rather than whine about what's been going on 50 or 100 years ago cos that doesn't really concern me.

Please stop. The more I read the more I cringe.

Do you think a little Iraqi kid, who has lost both arms and legs and whose entire family have been killed by an American bomb, really gives a flying f*ck about whether the guy who dropped it intended to do so? When you invade a country, you will inevitably take a large number of civilian lives. In the case of Iraq, the motives were suspect to say the least, so much so that the US and British governments had to lie in order to gain public support for it. America is a Christian country fighting Islamic Terrorism in the Middle East, how do you think the average Iraqi person views Christians? Probably as terrorists.

if islam is such a peaceful religion then why do you have so many extremists who use the words from koran, twist them so it suits their preachings and use them as an excuse to blow up buildings and planes full of innocent people?

I simply don't know where to begin. Honestly, how many Muslims do you actually think do this?

For the record, both Bush and Blair (Christians) referred to god when justifying their actions in Iraq.
IronsE11   
13 Nov 2008
Life / muslim community in poland [430]

And they were pandered to and the posters removed...for a MINORITY or people who were bothered and for a reason specific to their culture.

I didn't say I agreed with the decision did I. Only that they had a right to complain, that they were British citizens, and that most of them probably didn't even care about it.

That is shaping your host land to fit you not the other way around

I don't understand the concept of this host land! British Muslims are not guests in Britain, they have the same rights as anyone else! Their culture is as British as my culture! It's like me saying that Black American culture should be ignored as the whites were their first. Once you are a citizen of a country you have as much right to shape it as any other citizen! Let's not forget that India Pakistan and Bangladesh were 'shaped' by white Brits.
IronsE11   
13 Nov 2008
Life / muslim community in poland [430]

but please don't go working at tescos and then claim you were not aware you will have to handle alcohol and pork, and sue them for all the fecking 'distress' it caused you.

Or work for an airline with a strict no jewellery policy, then complain that you can't where your crucifix to work?

Picking out examples where someone has made a grievance due to religion is hardly a good indication of how 2 million people in the UK live their lives.
IronsE11   
13 Nov 2008
Life / muslim community in poland [430]

How about NOT asking us to change our rules and customs because it bothers you. YOU are the guest. The London Police were giving grief because of flyers that had a puppy on them (a Police mascot) because the muslim community was all upset at the 'filthy' animals image being around.

1. I bet you'll find the percentage of Muslims in the UK who actually complained about it was tiny. Most of them didn't give a flying f*ck.

2. They are British citizens (NOT GUESTS) with as much right to comment on a public poster as any other British citizen.

The Jerry Springer musical and The Life of Brian were widely condemned by Christians, frankly, I don't see what business they had commenting on them.
IronsE11   
13 Nov 2008
Life / muslim community in poland [430]

what kind of boredom makes some of you use every opportunity to insult islam.

It's not boredom, it's plain ignorance. We could just as easily be discussing the extreme, backward homophobic stance of the Pope and the Catholic Church but what would be the fun in that?
IronsE11   
13 Nov 2008
Life / muslim community in poland [430]

It's funny how so many Poles feel qualified to comment on the Muslim way of life. I was under the impression that there aren't many Muslims in Poland? If so, how do you all know so much about Muslims?

I'm from a part of East London with a great number of Muslims, Poles and South Africans. There are a large number of Muslims who play cricket at my local club who I am friends with. There are also a number of South Africans who play there, although I am yet to come across a Pole. To be honest with you, I think it's pretty disgusting that the Poles who come to East London don't integrate properly by engaging in the English tradition of cricket. How dare they.

The majority of you who bang on about integration make me laugh. Most Muslims are decent family people who get on with their lives much like any other nationality or religious group. When Polish people in London live together in tight knit communities, shop at Polish shops, socialise with other Poles and speak Polish to each other then that is ok? But when 'dirty Paki Muslims' do it then they are the sort of scum that we don't want in the country?

Labelling all Muslims is extremists is just plain ignorant, bit then you'd know that if you actually knew any Muslims personally.
IronsE11   
13 Nov 2008
Life / muslim community in poland [430]

have you read the story of joseph smith who founded the mormon religion? if not, check it out and let me know if you think he is a prophet or fraudster.

Or just watch the South Park episode. Hilarious and educational.
IronsE11   
12 Nov 2008
Life / muslim community in poland [430]

No Im not joking - do you know how many rapes have been carried out by asian taxi drivers in the last 12 months?

1
2
3
4
5

These are just 5 - there are plenty that don't make the news - these frustrated men who see white drunken women as easy game! You should think twice when your g/f goes and gets a taxi home :)

Funny you should say that. My g/f is frequently followed by strange Polish men, who think they have a chance because she looks Polish and can understand some of the sh*t they come out with. I was walking with her last week and some utter freak starting saying 'don't be scared little girl' in Polish over and over again. I asked him who the f*ck he was speaking to, he said 'The girl, she looks like she speaks my language'. Anyway, I digress... The point I'm making is that I don't judge all Poles based on these rather disturbing experiences. You shouldn't judge all 'Paki' cab drivers based on what are essentially isolated cases.

My local cab firm in East London employs nearly all Pakistani and Bengali drivers and we have never heard of an incident like this.

Your prejudice astounds me.
IronsE11   
12 Nov 2008
Life / muslim community in poland [430]

Taxi drivers come in all shapes and forms not all are asian - I for one wouldn't get in a taxi with a paki driver, I read the news - rapists!

The sad thing is, you're clearly not joking!

You are total scum.
IronsE11   
11 Nov 2008
News / Is it time to tighten gun laws in Poland? [146]

Good video on UK:

Cheers Dawid, I haven't laughed that much in ages :)

I particularly like the gun owner who said the following in response to giving up his gun:

'It's the feeling of being a Jew in Nazi Germany'

You couldn't make it up!!