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Joined: 14 Feb 2008 / Male ♂
Last Post: 3 Oct 2008
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From: Los Angeles, CA
Speaks Polish?: a little
Interests: Poland, sports, literature, movies

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EbonyandBathory   
10 Apr 2008
Love / BLACK GUYS POLISH WOMEN [809]

given prison sentences 4x longer

I can't speak for Britain, but this happens every single day in America. Plus, Poles know as well as anyone that history weighs upon you every day no matter if you went through it or not.
EbonyandBathory   
10 Apr 2008
Love / BLACK GUYS POLISH WOMEN [809]

Also, Poles may blame history for institutional failures in their country but I'm not aware of any of them blaming history for any individual disappointments they experience.

I'm not aware of any blacks who blame history for individual disappointments, only institutional failures, both in history and on going.
EbonyandBathory   
10 Apr 2008
Love / BLACK GUYS POLISH WOMEN [809]

It's just that white people, and I am no exception, really have no idea of the inconsistencies in our society. We're so privaledged that we can't see beyond our own noses. This is natural but it doesn't make it right. Two years ago, white people in America were polled and 75% believed that blacks had an equal chance to succeed in America. That might not seem outrageous until you consider that 40 years earlier in 1965, the same poll was given and the same results were found, that 75% felt that Blacks had a fair shake. In 1965! I mean, if we were so wrong then, what's keeping us from being just as wrong now?
EbonyandBathory   
21 Apr 2008
News / Why does Poland love the US? [144]

Expatriot, I don't understand you. You abhor the US for selling Poland to Communism but instruct the Poles to align with the very nation that was implementing that communism. You detest America for putting in missile sheilds that have resulted in Russian missiles aimed at Poland and yet you want Poland to become allies with the same country that would so rashly point it's bombs at its neighbor. You talk about Poland's history and yet you want her to become partners with the country that has caused the most pain during that history. Yes, when Poland made unions with its neighbors she was strong, but Russia has never offered her hand in unity and Poland's strength was meant to protect her from Russia. The only pacts Russia has made as been with other countries...to destroy Poland. I have no desire to become allies with such a nation. Poland wants to stand on her own. She needs help. Even though America has been far from perfect, she'd prefer to get her help from the states then from Russia.
EbonyandBathory   
21 Apr 2008
Life / What do Polish people think of burning the national flags? [58]

While I could never condone the criminalization of the burning of the flag, I'm not sure I could condone the actual activity either. Freedom of Speech allows us to express our opinions and burning the flag certainly does that, but Freedom of Speech also allows us to use our words to express ourselves, to use nuance and irony and layered argument, it allows us the freedom to strive to make our voices heard more intelligently than simply setting fire to an object that means different things to many.
EbonyandBathory   
22 Apr 2008
Love / BLACK GUYS POLISH WOMEN [809]

this dosent' sound very PC but maybe its true, you don't know!!!! there are other differences in ethnic groups, skin colour, culture, religious beliefs, physical make up, thought processes so why not intellegence???

Would you care to elaborate and mention which ethnic groups are "more intelligent" than others?
EbonyandBathory   
22 Apr 2008
News / What do Polish friends think of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton? [226]

That article is despicable. That rant of racist filth is an insult to Slavs, Blacks, and all immigrants. How blind are some whites that they can't see their own priviledge?It makes me feel very ill, indeed. This faction of people that seem to think that Barack Obama is "lucky" in his position, or that Blacks in America are being handed wealth and opportunity would be laughable if it wasn't so sad. My God, how delusional is that woman? I don't care who you vote for, but to fall into that line of thinking is truly madness.
EbonyandBathory   
22 Apr 2008
Love / BLACK GUYS POLISH WOMEN [809]

Not only is that a simplistic example it's also a bunch of hogwash. This sporting insult to Black intelligence is not new. Since sports have become globalized and integrated the line has always been "White Athletes are smarter, Black Athletes have 'natural, inherit, God-given athletic ability.'" It's fooey. It's a white rationalization on why they're getting beat at the sports they invented.

You're not a racist, Tornado, I don't use that word lightly and I wouldn't lob it your way, but that is some flawed thinking, however it is shared by many. I can't speak much for European Football but some of the greatest Black baseball players were maligned in their heyday as being "naturally talented, but not 'baseball smart.'" You can't be as great as Hank Aaron and Willie Mays were without inherent "baseball intelligence." This is the same line of thinking that keeps blacks from being quarterbacks in American football.

I'm extrapolating here because I'm not in expert in world football but perhaps the way the African teams played seemed different because they learned the same game a different way. What I mean is that, an African fan might watch a European team and note what he thinks to be poor form because he was taught football in the African mold.

When the Canadians invented hockey in the late 1800s, it went through many rule changes and incarnations that were designed to make the game better, but the Canadians naturally held on to some of the bad habits the new rules were designed to remove. When the Soviets picked up hockey in the 1950's they didn't start with those bad habits so their game became superior quickly. Is this to say that the Canadians had poor "hockey smarts" or that the Russians were "hockey geniuses?" Of course not, it was just a different way. I'd be careful before labeling such subjective things as unintelligent.

By the way, who won those matches you were talking about?
EbonyandBathory   
22 Apr 2008
Love / BLACK GUYS POLISH WOMEN [809]

The ones that have better access to education have better chances of being more 'intelligent' but I don't think that it is an inherent quality.

Exactly, Mali, there's nothing inherent about it. Before slavery and imperialism when everything was on an even keel there were great civilizations of learning in all cultures. Not just Europe.
EbonyandBathory   
22 Apr 2008
News / What do Polish friends think of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton? [226]

I take it you are voting for Obama? What do you feel was the purpose of the statements made by him?

I'm sorry if it offends you, have you seen the house being built for Obama's pastor? Comments made by Obama did nothing to satify me that he does not hold the same belief system. In fact,statements he made in defense of the church were "understanding" what "Blacks in America" feel, yet others do not hold this right?

That article would offend me regardless of how I'm voting. The purpose of his statements, to my ears anyhow, was to reflect that the world is not black and white, as Ms. Grabar presents it. That sometimes people we like say things we don't agree with, that to him, friendship and loyalty have precendence over political gain. As I said before, I don't care who anyone votes for, but to assert that white immigrants "have it worse" than "lucky Black Americans" is ludicrous. If you want to disown Obama for the thoughts of his preacher, I can't tell you not to, but I can alert you to some quotes from people John McCain has called his spiritual leaders:

– Reverend John Hagee has called the Catholic Church the "Great *****." He has said that the Anti-Christ will rise out of the European Union (of course, the Anti-Christ will also be Jewish). He has said all Muslims are trained to kill and will be part of the devil’s army when Armageddon comes (which he hopes is soon). John McCain continues to say he is proud of Reverend Hagee’s endorsement.

– Reverend Rod Parsley believes America was founded to destroy Islam. Since this is such an outlandish claim, I have to add for the record, that he is not kidding. Reverend Parsley says Islam is an "anti-Christ religion" brought down from a "demon spirit." Of course, we are in a war against all Muslims, including presumably Muslim-Americans. Buts since Parsley believes this is a Christian nation and that it should be run as a theocracy, he is not very concerned what Muslim-Americans think. John McCain says Reverend Rod Parsley is his "spiritual guide."

– Jerry Falwell said America had 9/11 coming because we tolerated gays, feminists and liberals. It was our fault. Our chickens had come home to roost, if you will. John McCain proudly received his support and even spoke at his university’s commencement.

I'm not telling anyone to not vote for John McCain, either. These people aren't on McCain's payroll, they don't speak for McCain, neither did Obama's preacher so I don't hold any of these qoutes (including the outlandish one's by Obama's preacher) against the candidates. My point is, before you start thinking about how lucky Black men are, especially in politics, ask yourself why Obama's preacher was all over the news and none of these qoutes have seen the light of day.
EbonyandBathory   
22 Apr 2008
Love / BLACK GUYS POLISH WOMEN [809]

True. Although I believe that slavery was involved in building many of these civilizations. However, it was from within so it was a class thing rather than a racial thing (not that that makes slavery any better)
Egypt
Maya
Ancient China
Aztec
the one from India (I always forget what they were called)
etc

Greece as well.
EbonyandBathory   
23 Apr 2008
Life / What do Polish people think of burning the national flags? [58]

That's what makes it worth doing. As opposed to flag burning which is easy, pointless, and crude. Again, I'm all for freedom of expression and there are times when I can see flag burning as a necessary sign of defiance but it's not a instigator of real change, just a display.
EbonyandBathory   
25 Apr 2008
News / Polish Embassy in Baghdad under Missile Attack [4]

A rocket hit the Polish embassy in Baghdad yesterday. One worker was wounded and there were no deaths. The foriegn minister says this will not effect the speed of Poland's withdrawl from Iraq. This is the second attack in the last 6 months or so. I'm not going to add a political opinion but certainly open the floor to any thoughts you might have on this.

wbj.pl/?command=article&id=40941
EbonyandBathory   
28 Apr 2008
Life / Poles' tolerance towards other Races [190]

For the US it has been massive immigration from the Mestizos of Mexico, the poor people of Mexico, which are basically Indian people, who are very different from the Original Americans who settled the US (Northwestern Europeans mainy, and the Blacks in the South).

This is one of the more hilarious sentences I've ever read. Hilarious, sad, terrifying, all of those. First, the phrase "Original Americans" used to describe Europeans is pretty funny, ESPECIALLY when used to contrast Indian people. Also, it's cute you think the Blacks "settled" in the South, like they were on a pleasure cruise or something.

The Europeans are a distinct race of people who have contributed greatly to the world, and are highly admired.

Those contributions are the direct cause of mixing cultures, races, and ideologies. The mixing and sharing of as many different ideas is nearly always good, and that is now different now.
EbonyandBathory   
29 Apr 2008
Life / Poles' tolerance towards other Races [190]

Better not ask how, better just to say 'how!' Miranda, LOL

Offensive. Hilarious. Offensive AND Hilarious.

z_darius, while I truly am saddened by that story and picture, judging people by their worst traits is hardly productive, or relevant.
EbonyandBathory   
29 Apr 2008
Life / Poles' tolerance towards other Races [190]

When will it be time for OUR people to be worthy of being preserved, protected?
When we have become a dying out minority???

Are you REALLY worried about this? Seriously? Oh, please, who will protect the white people? What will happen to white history? Will somebody please think of the poor white people? We're the victims! What will become of our history, that has been taught from our point of view for thousands of years? What will become of us? Poor, poor white people.
EbonyandBathory   
29 Apr 2008
Life / Poles' tolerance towards other Races [190]

I'm as tolerant as they come but radical Muslims really get up my nose.

Bad people get up my nose, regardless of race/gender/creed. Also boogers.

z_darius, I see what you're saying and I nearly agree. We're not disagreeing per se, but it's a complicated issue with many shades. You seem to have your head on your shoulders and I respect your opinion even if it's a differing degree from mine.

And that's whats good about intelligent disagreements and dialogue, you get all kinds of opinions and world views. See? Diversity, working for you.
EbonyandBathory   
29 Apr 2008
Life / Poles' tolerance towards other Races [190]

You are not white, aren't you?

I'm as white as a cue ball, BB. But just because I'm white doesn't mean I can't see the inconsistancies in our society.
EbonyandBathory   
29 Apr 2008
Life / Poles' tolerance towards other Races [190]

Bratwurst Boy

My "own people" have done enough disrepectful things to others, a little back from withen isn't going to hurt anybody. I don't speak "derogatory," I try as much as I can to speak the truth and I call things the way I see them. Race mixing does not bring "racial heritage" under attack. I wouldn't dream of forcing it on anyone, nor would I condone resistance to it. White people have been privalegded for thousands of years (myself included) and a little race mixing isn't going to change that, because that's been going on for thousands of years as well.
EbonyandBathory   
29 Apr 2008
Love / What is Sexy to men and women in Poland? [101]

I wouldn't like to be a model - they're stupid tarts.

Plus, you can forget about eating anything for the rest of your life.
EbonyandBathory   
29 Apr 2008
Love / What is Sexy to men and women in Poland? [101]

I can't tell you how embarassed I am as an American by this. I take great pride in knowing where things are on a map and to see a fellow country woman crap all over that is disheartening ("I thought Europe was a country.") The only saving grace is that she is thought to be an idiot by most people (hard to argue), and not somebody to be imulated. Either way, it's very sad. Especially as she is a decently successful recording artist/model.
EbonyandBathory   
29 Apr 2008
Love / What is Sexy to men and women in Poland? [101]

Merci, Polson. Vos mot aimables sont bons pour mon coeur americain. Beaucoup de benedictions!

Allons enfants de la Patrie...
EbonyandBathory   
29 Apr 2008
Love / What is Sexy to men and women in Poland? [101]

If were talking French films there is no finer than "Le Quatre Cents Coups." One of the greatest of all time in any language. And just to keep on topic...um, I find that movie sexy.
EbonyandBathory   
29 Apr 2008
Life / Poles' tolerance towards other Races [190]

The fact that you come from a nation that had colonized a new continent, slaughtered its native inhabitants and brought hundreds of thousands of slave labour from Africa, doesn't give you the knowledge and the right to teach Europeans how they should behave against other races (or even other nations of the same race) on their very own soil.

Where do you think the people who "slaughtered [the] native inhabitants and brough hundreds of thousands of slave labour from Africa" came from? I'm not telling Europeans how to do anything. If you or anyone are against race mixing that's your perogative. However, that doesn't mean that historically race mixing hasn't had positive results. Listen, I'm all for "friendly guests" but I'm also for friendly and accomodating hosts. People for the most part move to make better lives for themselves not worse lives for the people their moving next to. But both parties have to meet each other eye to eye.

And, no, we (as the white race) have never been privileged.

Rubbish. Plain and simple.
EbonyandBathory   
29 Apr 2008
Life / Poles' tolerance towards other Races [190]

You're saying that whites aren't priva

I will tell you what...the advantage was hard worked for and deserved.
Remember...we all started out from the same valley somewhere in Africa! But it's the whites which did most for the development of the world in the history of mankind...did you ever asked yourself WHY???

Even, if I grant that argument (which I don't), you say that whites had to earn their "superiority" but that was thousands of years ago. If you're not privileged, then what have YOU specifically done to "earn" the "superiority" that you claim. This question goes to Krzysztof as well.

Listen, I'm proud and happy to be white. But were lucky, plain and simple. And we haven't a clue what it is to be disinfranshised.