Life / Retire in Poland - Good or Bad Idea? [74]

:)it is quite funny be Polish and English are little moaners just moaning about different things. I think Shelley that you can miss a little if you don't speak polish- it is difficult to explain but it is easier to get to know other culture by learning their language. My husband is English and doesn't speak polish and sometimes I can't explain him things.

But....polish like moaning about money( English not at all) the wealthier they are the more they moan and politics , so often. Especially older generation.

English moan probbaly about some inconvenience.
And it is quite strange but I have impression that old people in England are so cheerfull and young moan and moan - opposite that in Poland.

Maybe except Victor Meldrum:)

[bJust because we expect a certain standard??? what do expect us to do, just take bad service (weather is easily dealt with we go away several times a year to enjoy the good weather),

Weather!!! It is great subject for little chit-chat if we don't have much more to talk with someone- like queueing at dring machine at work.

I like it and I do it- I am just wondering if I start doing it in Poland?:) :)

Service- I think that you don;t complain enough about servicxe all this english politeness....
I like it but ... I am not really complaining person if | don't like restaurant I will not go there againg that is all.But as nearly noone complain loudly I would feel really bad to do it.

I went once to coffe-bar -Caffe Nero- in Peterborough and girl servse me coffe but already silt quite much on the saucer she noticed it but didn't bother to wipe. Little thing. BUT IT IS BAD SERVICE FOR ME.

Love / I love a Pole, but they say our relationship won't work.. [30]

Arien, you are nice guy, don't be so impatien right girl will come along ar right time

I don't completely agree with you- not everyone is so happy in relationship, some people have bad experience, we can;y assume that if someone is single is miserable.

maybe because i am female- I must admit that I prefer situation of English independent women that polish. It is ok in big towns. But in small places this mentality is annoying if woman of certain age( 25-28?) is single it means " noone wanted her" They will not say the same about man.

Love / I love a Pole, but they say our relationship won't work.. [30]

Thats a certain age in Poland??? Jeeeezz 70% of my friends are single in their mid 30is all professional and of course whilst we're single we would like a relationship but with the right person but I dont think anyone of us feels that we're "not wanted" fussy may be but not wanted - god thats a horrible situation to be in - i'm glad I live in a large city

I know, I hate this attitude in small towns, villages in Poland- I suppose it is slowly changing now. In Poland there are also many single women in their 30 attractive, educated, independent- and exactly they prefer to be single than just marry for the sake of marriage.

it is difficult to explain as in general english women are not much different from polish but they seem to be more independent ( not about money, education ...) but about their social position in England.

Life / Polish Mass traditions [17]

I has similar situation but opposite when I was at English mass.I bought The Sunday Missal in one of these shops with religious books but I don't think if they have anything in polish. I suppose if you treat it seriously the best would be to ask polish priest after the mass and he can provide you with something.

Life / Polish Mass traditions [17]

dont understand - is this guy going to mass to imperss a girl??? if so I think thats pretty poor and if he is he's not really getting the whole reason of going to church

I don't know but if he wants polish transcription it seems that he makes some effort.

News / OK, how bad is the economic situation in Poland? [47]

You know my blood boils when I here this type of nonsense, boom, boom, boom, well tell me my good wujek why are so many people leaving poland for a better way of life and why are so many people struggling to make ends meet (poverty increasing rapidly) sorry wujek, I don't want to stretch the friendship but please........

I don't know numbers but why so many English people leave England and move abroad ( quite big percentage ) if England is so rich country. people migrate for many different reason.

And for lots polish going west for work is like mirage- they imagination which is not true. Lots of them didn't find work and came back another realised that theya were doing better in Poland and came back.

Life / Polish Men and Fashion [90]

:)such a big treat we can see part of Wujek dobra rada.

UK, Ireland / Stop the exploitation of Polish workers in the UK [101]

The employers seem to be the people benefitting most from the influx of Polish labour.The problem now is that some companies are recruiting new workers directly from Poland and not offering the jobs to local British people.This is understandable (the Polish work harder) but it is not good for some locals

I rememeber like tesco was opening big warehouse in Peterborough they put advert in local paper but but didn't get enough applicants so they started looking for people in Poland.

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I was referring just about those workers getting tax credits.Much of the money they spend will actually be money they get from the UK taxpayers.

yes but it is your law problem why - not change it that only people with british passport are entitled to it or people from EU but after certain time of staying here ( like 3-5 years)

Life / Polish Mass traditions [17]

sorry if my previous posting sounded stroppy

I am not upset , I think that you are just fiery girl- good for you.
it is better to have temperament than being bland.

I suppose I look at it from different point of view. My husband is English and I would be quite happy if he wanted to go sometimes with me for polish mass. Just as a nice gesture. He only goes once a year for basket blessing in Easter.

News / OK, how bad is the economic situation in Poland? [47]

Poland has very little lamb, veal or beef.

Where do you have this information from??????

So instead of working 2 years in the UK and then returning to Poland with 10k or more sterling it would of course be better if they spent 2 years unemployed and earning nothing?You might think that Lef but nobody else does.

exactly in krakow or Warsaw 10k is not much but if someone os from small town he can probbaly buy small flat for this money ar built small house. it is lots. if it is young couple they can start life without mnortgage

News / OK, how bad is the economic situation in Poland? [47]

2 sorts of English people move abroad.

1.Retired people.They like England and have worked all their lives but they do not want to spend every January-May shivering indoors worrying about the heating bills,so they go to Spain,Australia for the sun and cheaper costs(especially if they sell their UK house they will have plenty of money)

2.Whinging Poms.You know these people-they have a good life-even easy life but they are always complaining and see USA etc on TV and think everything is better there.I know a

couple without children here in the UK with a joint income of £100,000,nice house,many holidays etc but they always complain about taxes,quality of life etc.They want to go to USA etc and I tell them to try it.The problem in Britain is many people are spoilt and expect too much (materially) from life.

truebit,

I agree let's be honest averyone likes money and comfortable life but yes English are very materialistic and comfortable - I have impression more young generation. They want everything, nice cars, holidays abroad, house....

But unfortunately not everyone can afford it but of cource can afford lots credit cards and debts. I don't understand it . When I was to buy my first flat( with big help of my parents) in Poland I didn't go for bigger holiday as wanted to save money.You can't have everything life is full of choices.

I would say that there is maybe 3d group of emigrants - people who want to live in less crowded and commercial country sometimes even with less income.

There is quite a big English community in France, Italy.

Life / Are Polish People Racist? [1037]

what an ignorant bastard.i drink vodka and enjoy it much more than some australian beer which tastes like kangaroo pee live alone cheap and disguisting australian wine. i would rather drink my urine than that stuff.

POLISH VODKA 40% RULES!

Rafik,

w r o n g
Everything australian is the best!!!!!!!:) :)

News / OK, how bad is the economic situation in Poland? [47]

think most would like this, some more than others....(I'm sure most poles would like a new house. car, trip etc) I would.

of course they would but not everyone can afford everything in once.

UK, Ireland / BEWARE when coming over UK [363]

don't feel sorry for the polish people who came here and had to go back penniless to poland.this is a free job market here in the uk and if someones skiils are not needed here or they haven't got any they shouldn't be cried for.i find disguisting what job agencies are doing at the moment.they take virtually everyone on the board without proper checking a few things like:if they have an experience for the jobs they r offered,if they can speak even a few words in english so that they can do simple things on their own ie.if they are thretened,exploited,can they report it to the police?if their behavior and personal hygiene is up to standards.my company is quite ok in this matter.most of the polish people broutght in here from agencies are young, skilled and hard working but a few times i saw a few smelly DRUNKS who were allowed to work in food industry.unfortunately this kind of people are most likely to stay in mindes of some english poeple and there you go that's the picture of the whole society so i'd rather see them go back to poland.

so i think that some kind of natural selection is good for everyone.everyone should be given a chance but for their own risk

I know what you mean, but there are so many polish in England that you will always find a few "black sheep"
I never worked with polish people here but when I moved to England my first job was in a shop and few english guys working with food were quite...unpleasant and not very clean.

So it is everywhere.

I don't think that polish are exploited here. I am not at all. In my company I have exactly the same opportunity for promotion like everyone else.

Love / Do Polish guys have a different approach to dating than others guys? [50]

I would imagine they're the ugly ones who are not getting any regardless!

I met few people who didn't have sex before marriage. They were not ugly or weird. I think that it is just someone's principle.

Work / Pay, salary in Poland. [54]

I agree with you. These benefits are disgusting - make people lazy and slobbish.

Real Estate / Real estate in poland - how an average Pole can afford such prices? [78]

wujek,

May I ask you a question.Little stupid one. I think about buying property in Krakow- maybe next year.I will buy it by cash no mortgages- How do people pay now?

I mean buyer and owner must sign ovnership deed at notary and buyer must pay money to seller. How do they do it the same time to be safe?

Do I need the lawyer to do it for me?

UK, Ireland / Stop the exploitation of Polish workers in the UK [101]

So how do you all feel fellow british people that your tax money is being given to immigrant parents working in UK they can claim benefit for children living in their home EU country.Well documented that 50,000 Poles have slapped in claims are you all happy bout this?

Firstly it it British law if it is some people take advantage of it.Whose fault is it?Your government decided that every UE citizen who has childern can claim it. Even if children don't live here.Whom do you blame?

Secondly - what is the purpose of tax credit- as I understands it is to help for parents so they can afford child care and go to work. What if grandparents look after child ?Money is not used as it purpose was.

Love / Do Polish guys have a different approach to dating than others guys? [50]

I was pissed because you were generalizing. You can't take it out on everyone beacuse of a few people. We're a large country and we have many different views on life. I'm over it though. I realize there are bitter people out there.

I think that bitterness is temporary.
If you have bad time you blame everyone. When I moved to England and started my second job ( first was about 7 month) I met quite unfriendly peoplei n my team . And I felt qite bad there- It is like 8 hours everyday to spend with people you don't like. I was moaning Briitish are awful, unfriendly. That is not true- it is just generalization when we feel bad. Since then I have met lots of nice, warm ,funny people here.

I think that in USA there are lots great men. It is so big country full of people from all over the world.

Real Estate / Real estate in poland - how an average Pole can afford such prices? [78]

You see that there is a real estate angent attatched to each property - and this is how it should be, cose its - legal and safe.

No, you don`t need a lawyer - you`d need a lawyer only if something goes wrong.

There is also a point where you`re going to have to sign an agreement in the preasance of a notary. [/b]

I know little about it - I bought my first flat about 10 years ago( sold now) and bought directly from private people I checked -ksiegi wieczyste- and they gave me all last paid bills.

I know there are lots cheaters But I can;t assume that everyone wants to tricvk me.
people who sold flat were in their 50 livoing there for about 15 years.

I knwo that everyhing is changing in Poland. I asked about lawyer as in England he is doinh everyhing for people - Like estate agent in Poland.

I can see that in England Estate Agents don't do much at all they just took over proplerty market and charge people.

But in Poland- As you said they will do all checks for me. Do they organise preparing notary agreement? How much do they charge for service ( mor less?) Do I have to pay money to their account first?

Life / Are Polish People Racist? [1037]

It's amazing really, I spent a good time living in Munich 10 years ago and the attitude of the Germans is completely different. From my own personal experiene i found that the youth of Germany do nothing but appologise for their counries behaviour during the war. So much so you get bored and have to tell them to shut up. I'm sure the Poles here would agree that the horror the Nazi's caused during the war can not be matched and for you i'm sure it would be very hard to forget. At least the Germans take responsibility for their actions and don't try to justify it just to make themselves feel better.

I am not so sure about it. There are still lots extreme right-wing racist there.
I would describe German attitude to Poloand as patronising and not very friendly. Far away from any apology.

Real Estate / Real estate in poland - how an average Pole can afford such prices? [78]

poland has silly rules regarding real estate.

In oz land if you have no conscience you become a real estate salesman.. I carn't understand that in poland real estate agents can act on on behalf of the seller and the purchaser (what about conflict of interest)????

not different that anywhere else- except some law requirements in Poland ( ownership dees, notary contacts...).

News / Poland- Visa Waiver Program [55]

responsibilities. Hope it works out well. Any suggestions to better her chances? Yeah man I'm all for it. I just don't see it as fair. my GF is trying to get a tourist Visa now. I hope it will be a little easier. I sent a letter and filled out a form with my financial status and

It should help- if you have good financial situation and offer to look after your girlfriend in USA.

I applied for visa about 7 years ago- I got 10 years touristic visa. I brough with me all paperwork showing that I was independent in Poland - my flat ovnership deed, confirmation from my work about slalary, bank statements. They are afraid that too many polish people will go to USA stay for longer work without paying taxes.

But it has changed now- it is better to look for legal work in Europe, and yes USD seems to be quite weak now.

UK, Ireland / Stop the exploitation of Polish workers in the UK [101]

But did they they have to or wanted to earn more money?

Life / Are Polish People Racist? [1037]

Now more than ever in today's global economy you will find that intelligent,open-minded young people are similar throughout the world.In fact,you will probably have more in common and a similar outlook on life with intelligent,travelled young people in India and China than with less intelligent,less travelled people in your own country.Its mostly ignorance that causes problems

I agree with you. I didn't want to write it not to sound a little snobbish but it is true.
It is strange but open-mindeness and education make people so similar.
And you always find bigots, racists people with narrow minds.

When I hear about polish in England- some people opinions are so.....bad.
I agree as there are so many of us here that not all are perfect you find few thieves, rough people. But in general we easy adopt, learn english , work hard have good education and skills.

Few days ago there was article in Daily Express that polish workers cause unemployment in England? Where? I thought they fill workplaces where employers were struggling to find someone. Another thing is if some some polish people work better than English - I thought that in England it is free and competitive market so employer choose better person.Just capitalism.

I can only speak from my own experience. They were the people i met.

I suppose you are right younger generation is different.Older people feel maybe some bitternes, they were brought up in different way.

Life / Are Polish People Racist? [1037]

Well most of dont believe that - but there is the fact that some companies will pay Polish workers less and it's a competitive market and this will drive wages down in a country that has high taxes and a inflated house prices - it's difficult.

that is true but it is difficult to control it.
It is the same in USA lots illegal workers who don't pay taxes are paid less than minimum.

Love / Gift for Polish girls - question [56]

I think flowers, books, CD are more indifferent gifts- for friends , girlfriends
Jewels, clothes- if man buys it for woman it is becoming more private- it is more for closer relationship.

UK, Ireland / English people attitude towards Poles? [761]

ola,

I have been living here for 4 years and I think that British are quite tolerant nation.
If you want to move abroad I suppose England is not bad place.
It depends how easy you adopt to different environment- Some people do it quickly some slowly some never and come back.

UK, Ireland / English people attitude towards Poles? [761]

Ola,

I wouldn't believe much what people say on some forums in general . There are lots weird, frustrated people writing lots of s.....
I sometimes open our polish ONET- some people there are so horrible. I would not say that they are really good representation of our nation.

The best for you- come to England for few weeks, months and see how you would feel.

I didn't have much problems to find a work here similar to what I was doing in Poland - working in a Bank.

Your English is good I don't know what is your education or work experience but you shouldn't have much problems to find work.

To be honest during my interviews noone judged me by my nationality but by experience, education.