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Jozef Pilsudski   
15 Mar 2008
News / is the Czech Republic economy stronger then the Polish one [25]

I have no problems with Czechs. The Czechs have a great culture, certainly better than that of the Slovaks, and they make beer that is on par with the Germans. Prague is among the most beautiful cities in Europe.

However, Czechs do need to get over their denial on this issue. Poland has the 24th strongest economy by GDP after Saudi Arabia and before Norway. The Czech Republic has the 41st strongest economy by GDP after Chile and before Israel.
Jozef Pilsudski   
15 Mar 2008
Life / How do Polish people view themselves? [92]

they regard themselves as being somewhat superior or at least better than other cultures and countries

...

You seem unjustifiably surprised.

This is true of everyone, from the Portuguese to the Chinese.
Jozef Pilsudski   
18 Mar 2008
News / Should we change the rules to let Poles join the British Army? [119]

I have to agree with the post above mine. I am neither a British citizen nor a Polish citizen, but even from over here in the United States, I see little sense in the proposal. Poland and the United Kingdom are traditional allies, yes, but so are the U.S. and Canada, and I don't think such a plan should be applied there either. Every nation has their own army. These young men should be satisfied by serving in the Polish Army.
Jozef Pilsudski   
18 Mar 2008
News / How to call non-Poles ? [32]

Heh, I suppose you could say that!

I just wish my other half was Slav = (
Jozef Pilsudski   
21 Mar 2008
History / Comment on YouTube regarding Powstanie Warszawskie [32]

I will never show any form of automatic respect to Russians, who have been the historic enemy of the Polish nation, crushing all chances of Polish statehood for centuries, along with the Kingdom of Prussia.

Russians in World War II were no better than Germans, if not worse. It was the Soviets (Molotov) who signed the pact for the division of Poland with German Foreign Minister Joachim von Ribbentrop, seized the eastern half of the country, and then, during the Warsaw Uprising against the German occupation, allowed the brave Polish insurgents to be crushed as the Red Army twiddled its thumbs outside of the city with the hope that all Polish notions of independence from Moscow would be eradicated by the Wehrmacht by the time they finally arrived.
Jozef Pilsudski   
22 Mar 2008
History / Comment on YouTube regarding Powstanie Warszawskie [32]

The Soviet Union and the Red Army liberated Poland only in the sense that a slavemaster purchasing a slave from another slavemaster liberates said slave. Of course, the Germans have collected so much hate for themselves over the years, that people are too blind to see that. Russians and Germans in the World War II era may have been a world apart ideologically speaking, but when it came to unjustified brutality and the suppression of Polish independence, they were two sides of the same coin.
Jozef Pilsudski   
23 Mar 2008
History / Comment on YouTube regarding Powstanie Warszawskie [32]

I don't think that isthatu actually disagrees with that. He just stated the obvious, that without the Red Army’s help the Germans wouldn't be out of Poland in 1944. Nor in 1945. Nor in the 50's…

He seems to think though that the Polish people owe the Russian people some form of thanks. No more thanks than a slave owes his new master. Yes, the Russians kicked the Germans out of Poland to establish their own tyranny in a country which they had absolutely no right to occupy in the first place. It was Molotov that divided Poland like cattle with von Ribbentrop in the first place. This is not commendable. This is not honorable. If the Poles should thank the Russians for keeping the Germans out, then the Poles should thank the Germans for keeping the Russians out; It's equally illogical.
Jozef Pilsudski   
23 Mar 2008
History / Where do Polands non Jewish victims go? [64]

So don't.
I know that Poles were also getting killed and not just partying and I know that warsaw was blown up. But the germans put all the jews (not the poles) in a ghetto and then exterminated them. They didn't gas polish kids. You didn't find Poles escaping the Aryan side and trying to pass as Jews. Why would that be? and if the germans stopped at killing jews, christian poles would have been ok with that (except for a few good hearts) just like the ukrainians and the lithuanians.

This is because the Jews were viewed as the number one ideological and racial enemy of the German government and the German people. Poles were just a step down on the pecking order. Jews were killed because Nazi ideologues truly believed they, as a race, were the catalysts of all European disease, medical, political, and otherwise, and that they were a corrupting influence for all nations. Poles were killed because Germany wanted to expand its territory and rather than rule over foreign lands, as it had done in Silesia throughout the interwar period, it wished to kick what were seen as the occupying races out (Poles, Czechs, Russians, Lithuanians, and others) and repopulate said territories with ethnic Germans. Jews and Poles were killed on a large scale for different reasons, but neither group deserves more recognition than the other.
Jozef Pilsudski   
25 Mar 2008
Life / Germans and Poles - Fiction or Myth? [127]

Nobody asked the Silesian Germans if they wanted to leave. They either expelled them or raped/killed them. This is actually not a very nice part of Polish history, I wonder if the Poles consider their behaviour towards the Silesian Germans in the post-war years still as being justified or do they look back at this episode in shame?

I don't believe there is much to be ashamed about. Most every nation in history has performed some form of ethnic cleansing. Berlin thought nothing of cleansing traditional Czech and Polish lands and replacing the people with ethnic Germans. What Poland did is also no worse than what the Russians did, stealing Konigsberg from the Germans in East Prussia and transforming it into Kaliningrad. The difference between the two actions is that the Russians stole a historic German region. Poles reclaimed a region (Silesia) they had a historic right to.
Jozef Pilsudski   
7 Apr 2008
History / What Happened in the Danzig Corridor 1939? Poles Slaughtering Germans? [133]

In fact, it was ethnic Poles massacred in various areas of Silesia throughout the interwar period, not ethnic Germans in Danzig. This sounds like old war propaganda used by the German government at the time to justify the Wehrmacht's invasion of Polish territory and the destruction of Warsaw.
Jozef Pilsudski   
8 Apr 2008
History / What Happened in the Danzig Corridor 1939? Poles Slaughtering Germans? [133]

Yeah...well...so was the whole polish campaign! : )

From the German perspective, I'm sure it was. However, you folks should not be took quick to go on such wild sprees in the future. You already lost Konigsberg to the Russians and have been immasculated as a nation.

How much more? Some more of Lithuania? Some more of Ukraine? Some more of the Czech Republic? Why not some more of Germany?

It is not enough. There should be no Germans or Czechs in Silesia; it is a Polish region.
Jozef Pilsudski   
8 Apr 2008
News / Polish Japanese relations (history and present time) [90]

Nothing unusual about the high level of respect between two great cultures.

It's unfortunate that, due to circumstances, we ended up on opposite sides during the war, but that doesn't mean that Poles can't still learn alot from Japanese culture, and vice versa.
Jozef Pilsudski   
9 Apr 2008
News / Polish - French relations [41]

Finaly we have Silesia and you have Alsace ;) everything is ok :P (there is small difference Silesia was at the begining Polish ;) ... who cares :P )

Prussia (and subsequently, the German Empire) stole Alsace from France (under Napoleon III) after the German victory in the Franco-Prussian War.
Jozef Pilsudski   
12 Apr 2008
News / Polish Japanese relations (history and present time) [90]

You lot are obviously bleedin clueless when it comes to the history of ww2!!!

You quite obviously are clueless as to the depth of my knowledge on the subject. Then again, perhaps it will be more entertaining to play and fulfill the role you welded for me:

"Japanese atrocities?! Gee...what are those? I just thought the Imperial Japanese Army picked flowers and ate chocolates during World War II!..."

grow the fek up and learn a little about Japanese "civilisation"

I am well versed in Japanese history from the feudal era to Akihito's ascension. Please provide the credentials that render you an expert on the details of Showa nationalism.

I'll be waiting.

and stop p issing on the graves of your own ancestors

My ancestors taught me the value of respect. An intelligent mature human being respects his foes as well as his friends and allies. Of course, you don't have the emotional discipline to display respect toward an anonymous internet user, so perhaps I'm wasting my time trying to change your reprehensible attitude.

comparing the divine wind nutters to the PAF, friggin absurd and obsene!

No, what is absurd and obscene is the amount of disrepectful vitriol you are displaying toward the war dead, civilian and soldier, Polish, Japanese, or other. Every man who fell in that conflict was a better one than yourself.
Jozef Pilsudski   
12 Apr 2008
News / Polish Japanese relations (history and present time) [90]

You sir are a nutter,a sick and twisted one at that,grow up.

Real intelligent discourse; such an open-minded chap you are.

the loony tune who thinks I should show respect for the death march murderers,th rapists and the torturorswhat a twisted little man he seems to be.)

A warrior who fails to respect his enemies is simply ignorant, and a dead man walking. Dehumanization of your opponents leads to underestimation, which is a sure way to throw any battle. I have the utmost respect for the Japanese war dead, soldier and civilian, as should you, and just as I have for any other people who suffered through that horrible conflict - Polish, British, German, American, Italian, Dutch, or whomever.
Jozef Pilsudski   
12 Apr 2008
News / Polish Japanese relations (history and present time) [90]

So you feel sorry for the SS war dead do you,you have lots of respect for them do you? How about the NKVD soldiers who died,going to defend their honour are you? Im afraid your argument is morraly bankrupt.

I'm not sure if "feel sorry" is the correct terminology. I don't feel sorry for any who died during the war - People die in wars, from World War II to the Hundred Years War; that's just how it is. However, if you're asking whether they have my respect and admiration, yes, any fighting man (or woman) does, regardless of whether or not I agree with their political ideology or the ideology of the head of state they are serving. In the example you provide, my strong disagreements with certain parts of the philosophies of Hitler and Joseph Stalin do not minimize my respect for their combat forces, regular army or otherwise.

Would you say the same if Japan would have been Polands neighbour instead of Germany or Russia?

Yes, I would, because Japanese actions in World War II were not motivated out of the desire to eliminate any specific group, but out of a nation's natural and healthy drive for expansion. Japan was only playing the game that England, France, and Spain had been playing for centuries. After all, the first nation to use concentration camps was the United Kingdom - on Boer men, women, and children in South Africa.

Would you say the same of Germany? *waits expectantly*

Yes, I would. I respect the combat forces which fought for Germany in World War II, regardless of their aggression on Polish soil. I have no respect for some of Germany's political leaders at the time, but soldiers are men who follow orders out of love for and devotion to their country: That is true whether the blood which flows through one's veins is Polish, German, or Japanese.

It should also be noted now that I do not dislike Germans; I admire many aspects of German culture. However, I do tend to get fed up at times with the immature state of relations between Germany and Poland.

Heres the thing JP, The british soldiers who fought against the germans dont tend to hold grudges,in fact,just last week there was a reunion of British bomber crews with a group of german night fighter pilots. To this day,any British former soldier who saw what the Japanese issen goren did in the far east will have absolutly nothing to do with Japan or the japanese people.

I do have ancestors who served in the Polish armed forces during the war, and know many who lost family during the German occupation, so if you're going to attempt to make the "Japanese atrocities made the Germans look like innocent schoolboys!" argument, you're not going to get very far. ALL sides in the war committed atrocities, Axis and Allies.
Jozef Pilsudski   
12 Apr 2008
News / Polish Japanese relations (history and present time) [90]

bathed in admirable sentiments,but still a completly psycopathic view point imho.

You're entitled to your opinion, but I find that you're being a bit judgmental of a view point which dares to wander outside of your sphere of morality.

you are an american yes,right,how do you feel about those issen goren who murdered your fellow countrymen on the Battan death march?Or lets bring it up to date,are you quite so gushing in your admiration for the soldiers of the Iraqi resistence?

Do you want me to speak honestly? I abhor the atrocities, as they are unnecessary and do not achieve stated war objectives, but are simply mindless brutality. However, I do not abhor neither the people nor the army which commits those actions. I'm no peacenik; not even close. I support the ongoing occupation of Iraq if it will bring economic benefits, but at the end of the day, the average Iraqi militant has my respect as much as anyone else. He has family and friends, and he fights for a cause, the same as anyone throughout history.

but Ive met plenty of your type,most of whom have an admiration for hitler and a swastika blood banner hanging in their garage......

I don't think the Nazis would take me, due to my (proud) Slavic heritage, nor do I wish to be associated with their politics or their history. You're simply slinging mud with this comment.
Jozef Pilsudski   
13 Apr 2008
News / Polish Japanese relations (history and present time) [90]

Yes,I am,and for that I apologies,way outa line. The more you write the more I appreciatte your view points and infact share many of them.

Apology accepted. Don't fret; I enjoy passionate debate as much as anyone = )

He's a good contributor isthatu2. For an American (no offence intended), he offers broad and well thought through accounts of many matters, not tainted by bias. I admire his individualism the most. This was how Americans were supposed to be but the Jewish media pulled the wool over many of their eyes. Hats off to his rational, largely unprejudiced analyses.

I appreciate that sentiment, Seanus.

I shall hopefully get the opportunity to expand my mind even moreso, as we all should, as I travel a bit more in the years to come.

Anyway, let's get this thread back on a positive note: It's a celebration of the positive state of relations between two fantastic cultures!
Jozef Pilsudski   
16 Apr 2008
News / Yitzhak Shamir - prime minister of Israel with anti-polish sentiment [41]

A Jew will always be a Jew just as a Russian will always be a Russian.

There had been too much of a negative stigma over the years; the Jews will never fully integrate into modern European society again, they now have Israel, and Poles can't let these things get to them.
Jozef Pilsudski   
17 Apr 2008
News / Yitzhak Shamir - prime minister of Israel with anti-polish sentiment [41]

when was the last time you were actually in a modern european sociaty then Josef?
Plenty have "fully integrated" here in the UK........

I've never lived in Europe, I will admit, though I have visited many areas and I can speculate that many European nations have similar issues as what we face in the U.S. with certain groups promoting strife and sectarian divisions. In all impartiality, the Jews have always been rather tribal.