UK, Ireland / 13,000 Polish births this year, in the UK [180]

Well, Wroclaw boy, if I were as boorish and callous as yourself, I could say tons of nasty things about your own country - about its, let's us call them gently, shortcomings. I choose not to do that, but focus on positive things instead. And, based on my extensive travels in UK, I can tell you plainly: you have no real reason whatsoever to put down my country and puff yourself with pride about your own country.

UK, Ireland / 13,000 Polish births this year, in the UK [180]

It seems not just this forum, but also Poland somehow attracts some psychopaths from the British Isles. The Poles are one of the few nations still friendly towards the British, but this may change soon.

And we too should head out of UK, en masse. That's what I've been telling Poles I meet during my travels in UK, and that's what I'll keep on repeating.


- Yes, you should get out as soon as possible, with your wife, or solo, who cares - but please YOU do get out.
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UK, Ireland / 13,000 Polish births this year, in the UK [180]


- What are you talking about, pal? This is really deranged stuff. Better think of how Germans treated the Czechs during the war. Are you into the German Nazi revisionist movement, or what?


- Who the hell are you to make demands on Poles what they should be?

I'm starting to see now the other face of England with creeps like you. You're certainly promoting a good image of the English in Poland.



- Yeah, you should get the devil out of Poland right away, along with your little wifie; there will be two Polonophobes fewer there.

News / How does Poland imagine other countries see her? [84]


- Are there? I haven't met any personally; instead I've met folks working hard on any menial jobs you can think of.

Genealogy / strange Polish mixes [116]


- It appears so, and it's weird.
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News / How does Poland imagine other countries see her? [84]


- This one is a rough English 'cwaniak,' and not fond of Poland and Poles at all. And I once called this type 'friend of Poland and Poles.' Shame on me.


- Like fewer thieves in US than in Poland?
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News / How does Poland imagine other countries see her? [84]


- Not as much as Americans.


- Didn't you know that? They go to UK because there's unemployment in Poland.


- He says he's in Poland because 'fun' is cheaper there than in England or America.

Genealogy / strange Polish mixes [116]


- Yes, it is. And it's weird - why not call yourselves simply Americans?


- Hm, so your heritage and background, and identity aren't simply American?


- Do you suggest I haven't?

USA, Canada / Roads and Driving rules in Poland versus America [63]


- It was The Times. 'Huge rise in foreign lorry accidents blamed on difference in road rules.' November 14, 2007.

Strangely enough, the 'ten countries ranked by highest rate of increase in collisions caused by foreign drivers in the UK' are all 'Eastern European' countries plus the Republic of Ireland.

Of course, it's the Poles who are listed as having the highest number of lorry accidents in UK. The source of the info is given as 'UK Green Card Bureau.'

It all looks kind of fishy to me.

USA, Canada / Roads and Driving rules in Poland versus America [63]


- You coudn't make more in England or US?

USA, Canada / Roads and Driving rules in Poland versus America [63]


- Which media hacks? Daily Mail? The Sun?

USA, Canada / Roads and Driving rules in Poland versus America [63]

Wow, it seems Poland is bad for you to live in. Why suffer?

USA, Canada / Roads and Driving rules in Poland versus America [63]


- And the revelation comes from...?

USA, Canada / Roads and Driving rules in Poland versus America [63]

re: tzcew, wehjerowo

- Never heard about such places. Would you mean Tczew and Wejherowo?

I visited Gdansk many times, but never noticed 4 lines of traffic on any of the roads.

So those alleged four lines of traffic are due to 'careless driving' or to something else, e.g. narrowness of the road, too many cars? E.g. in your native England I've seen lots of weird driving, including driving on the sidewalk by two passing cars, but it was many times due to the narrowness of roads there.

What else, apart from road accidents, has increased in England because of the Poles? Crime perhaps...?

USA, Canada / Roads and Driving rules in Poland versus America [63]


- So why are you laughing?


- Do you mean that road accidents went up 15 % in the UK because of Polish drivers? Where did you take this news from?


- Which specific city would that be, which road? Sopot?

Genealogy / strange Polish mixes [116]


- Are you intellectually capable of identifyng that 'some reason' for which the Polish and Irish 'mix' should appear odd to you, oh ye Irisheyz from USA?

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PS. When I lived in North America (US and Canada), I met lots of people calling themselves Irish, even though they actually were Americans and Canadians. Many of them appeared to me extremely arrogant and prejudiced towards us Poles. Actually, I thought all Irish were like them, until I came to Europe and lived in Ireland for some time, and found that real Irish are in Ireland, not in the US or Canada, and that, unlike the fake 'Irish' from America, they are fabulous people, not Polonophobic at all - in fact the least Polonophobic people in Europe.... I also found that quite a few real Irish aren't too fond of the 'Irish' from US.... :)


- Save us God from 'Poles' like you.

USA, Canada / Roads and Driving rules in Poland versus America [63]


- What is so funny, pal? And which country has more car incidents - Poland or USA, or your own country? By the way, I have seen with my own eyes how some folks drive in the latter....

USA, Canada / Roads and Driving rules in Poland versus America [63]


- What do you mean that 'Polish are crazy drivers' and that they they 'just seem to take it to extremes'? Can you give any specific examples of this alleged 'craziness' and extremism, ye 'Irisheyz' from USA?


- So according to you all the Polish don't bother to observe 'the rules of the road'?

History / WW2: Britain Declares War on Germany to Save Poland [290]


- Good God, that is a very good very eloquent post, Dan. I'll be awaiting isthatu's reply with great excitement.

Cheers.
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- Looks like the usual westernist putting-down-the-Poles propaganda. It used to be quite naughty (and silly) in Britain and US. I remember something similar - the claims that the Polish-Russian war of 1920 was won thanks to the French. Norman Davies has demolished this myth in His White Eagle Red Star. Perhaps the Polonophobic Cassino myth needs a similar treatment?

Life / Polish Parents are controlling [58]


- I wish it were always the case! Unfortunately, it often isn't.

History / WW2: Britain Declares War on Germany to Save Poland [290]


- Very true, brother.


- No hard feelings or bad-mouthng on our part at all. In fact, in Poland we admired you for giving a good thrashing to Stalin's Russian army. You beat the crap out of them. A brave nation you are, real warriors.

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- Come on, Greg, there's no reason to be so offensive. Especially because isthatu is a really good guy - cool, knowledgeable, and not Polonophobic at all. You've shot some Britophobic crap at him; should he now reply in kind with some Polonophobic crap? He'd have the right to do that. Let's be friendly and respectful or less so towards the right people. It's definitely right to be friendly and respectful towards isthatu.

Cheers, Greg and isthatu.
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PS. Greg, isthatu. - God bless Her Majesty for Her kindness towards the Polish people.

And God bless English tea - the best tea on earth.
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News / Poland turning into a religious state? Polish politic and Church. [96]



- What does it have to do with the power of Church in Poland? Do you mean that FATHER Rydzyk (that's his title for you - Father Rydzyk) is the Church? Besides, Father Rydzyk is disliked by many Catholics; he is in a sense on the margin of the Polish Church, not in its centre.

During the recent elections, Radio Maryja and Nasz Dziennik (two - very good, actually - media connected with Father Rydzyk) supported PiS, but PiS lost.... Would you say the Polish Church isn't powerful any more? Or would you argue that PO won because Father Rydzyk-the Church supported them, not PiS?

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Great Heavens, it's nearly 2 am, and I've got to get up at 6 am and write. Bye, Polsonek.
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News / Poland turning into a religious state? Polish politic and Church. [96]

Well, Polsonek, you're a nice intelligent dude, but you've got to question both what you get from others and your own convictions. Always ask yourself: 'And what if this isn't true?' in regard to other peoples' statements and your own thoughts. And learn as many facts as possible. Then you'll be a really bright guy.

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News / Poland turning into a religious state? Polish politic and Church. [96]


- Good point, Filios.
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News / Poland turning into a religious state? Polish politic and Church. [96]


- Really? What do you mean by 'friend'? E.g. what do they do together?

So if President of a given country befriends a priest this means that the church the priest belongs to is necessarily powerful in the country?


- How would the visit be evidence of the power of the Church in Poland? Well, the first - if I'm right on this - visit by Tusk was to Lithuania. Is it evidence of the power of Lithuania in Poland? :)


- Is this also hard evidence of the Church's power? Why?
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News / Poland turning into a religious state? Polish politic and Church. [96]


- Are you implying I've ever said the Polish Church isn't powerful? When, where?

But you're saying that the Polish Church is powerful, aren't you? If so, then you must know some facts on which you base your opinion. What are those facts? Can you give them?

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News / Poland turning into a religious state? Polish politic and Church. [96]


- What do you specifically mean by my alleged 'stirring'? So the Polish Church just wants to have some great power, but doesn't have it, is that what you mean? Have you got any proof of this alleged big appetite of the Church? So according to you the Church had lots of power during communism? How would you then explain the persecution of the Church, including imprisoning and killing of priests, its being controlled by the communist authorities to the extent that they had their say in who should be made an archbishop, etc.?

You know, miranda, I'm not surprised you're defending Polson, as you and him appear to be kindred souls: you both repeat cliches you've unconsciously have picked from the media hacks - empty cliches, not supported by any hard evidence.

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News / Poland turning into a religious state? Polish politic and Church. [96]


- Who are those Christians and what are those ideas of theirs you're criticising?

News / Poland turning into a religious state? Polish politic and Church. [96]


- And why not? There are other compulsory subjects too. What's the difference? Why should knowledge of Christianity mean not to let live? And Poland is still a Christian - Catholic country; Christianity is closely connected with our national culture and values. If the majority wants the knowledge of Christianity to be a compulsory subject, what's wrong with that? Does democracy mean the rule of majority or minority, Polson? How should knowledge of Christianity hurt atheists or non-Christians? Does e.g. physics hurt those students who don't believe in physics? Or does it make any one of those who study physics a physicist?

News / Poland turning into a religious state? Polish politic and Church. [96]


- Are we all obligated not to be Christians? Are we all to accept as only true your idea of 'freedom'? Why? Why should your view be better than that of Christians? And do the Christians criticise you as you're criticising them? Live and let live, mate.

I'm still waiting for a proof from you that there's too much religion in the Polish government....
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