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What did Poland get out of the wars and struggles for others? [1108]
Because when I give you the finger you want to take the whole hand!
Well, considering I am not Jewish....
When I say yes it was an important victory a Polonius would make it to a singlehanded battle which saved the whole of Europe!
No, but simple acknowledgement of these victories would suffice.
You do not even acknowledge that they had
partial importance in European history...
I will never forget how Poles are so readily ignore that the battle against the Turks at Vienna was a JOINT fight, without the allies, without the brave Viennese who suffered so long at the siege the Poles would have won nothing.
Yes, it was a joint fight, and yes, these allies were there. They were protecting their own interests. The well being of their own people.
But you seem to forget that Poland was only bound by a scrap of paper to save these brave Viennese who were defending THEIR OWN city. Sobieski could have just as easily sat at home and rested his horse, and waited for the Turks to overstretch themselves before attacking. Sobieski and the Poles possessed the most effective tactics against the Turks from experience, something that even your dear Germans could not match. Without them, Vienna would have undoubtedly fallen into Turkish hands. I doubt you will find a historian who would agree that the Turks would have kept going and taken all of Europe... that is rubbish. Their empire was already in decay before they attacked Austria...
Too weak to keep going, but strong enough to have been able to hold Vienna and the territory around it.
Hell, here's a thought. Why didn't Poland negotiate a treaty with the Turks to backstab Austria? We all know what Austria did a few decades later...