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Ironside   
4 Sep 2009
News / Poland Remembers start of WW2 [200]

I am sorry that the Dutch army didn't come to the rescue in September '39. Not that it would've been of much use, but it's the idea that counts.

Do you have an army?
Never heard about it!
Well, I guess Holland have you......killer:)
Ironside   
4 Sep 2009
News / Poland Remembers start of WW2 [200]

whenever you'll discuss WWII with Poles, say - I'm sorry we fukked it big time, shouldn't give you any promises, as we couldn't keep them !

In 9 out of 10 he/she will shut His/her gob no time!

I think you have missed above from my post.

One more thing, people discussing WWII and Poland generally tends to forget that Poland in 1939 were fighting against combined German and Soviet forces.
That change a bit equation, don't you think?
In 1939 considering that Poland done very well, if not better then anyone else until 1943, when tide of the war changed.
Ironside   
3 Sep 2009
News / Poland Remembers start of WW2 [200]

as i said the British army was rebuilding

So why did they promised military help to Poland if they were not able to deliver - they lied ?
And Who's fault is it in the first place that they had not army ready ?

believe me if the British had an army of that size and strength, there would have been no failure.

What stopped you?
I mean you had an Empire for about hundred years, you invented a tank - and then what, some German state (started from 1870) bettered you, so you fuckked up badly !

excuses, excuses, the state of the British army at that point is well documented!!!!

Yeah? Whose fault is it?

drives me nuts when Poland has so much potential to forfill.

Well, I have an remedy for that ...whenever you'll discuss WWII with Poles, say - I'm sorry we fukked it big time, shouldn't give you any promises, as we couldn't keep them !

In 9 out of 10 he/she will shut His/her gob no time!

However in the face of danger they stood their ground on another nations territory, that themselves had quit.

Stop whining and bleeting about it !
You lost that one!

the German war machine is the 2nd best in history as far as i'm concerned

Sure, wimps talks !
Since 1939 you doge( or lose Greece etc), then you make a stand in 1941, after that the big boys USA and Soviets help you !
Ironside   
1 Sep 2009
News / The most spectacular errors in Polish politics. [264]

But point 1 requires certain development. The annexation of Zaolzie was a result of Polish government`s silly shortsightedness. If they had been really wise, they would have set a military alliance with Czechoslovakia against Germany. Polish army was obsolete but numerous, Czechoslovakian was little but perfectly equipped. Together they would have posed a hard nut for Germans.

You should be silent in matters of the politics. Soviets must be proud to grow in Poland such clueless creatures.

i must notice Pawiane, you are crazy as electricity

I concur!

[quote=southern]You were not able to cause any major damage to Germany.Germany feared only red army at that moment as an equal force.[/qu

As a stronger force you mean !
Ironside   
31 Aug 2009
History / US snubs Poland over WW II ceremony? [75]

Poland should not get in a fizz over WHO the US sends to a commemorative event. That is petty. Period.

But I want Arnold ........uhhhhh!
Ironside   
29 Aug 2009
History / WHO WILL REPRESENT THE USA AT WESTERPLATTE? [28]

What ideology ? You don't even know what you are talking about!

I don't discourage you, carry on ....talking :)

And as long as I'm around nobody will brainwash my children!
Ironside   
29 Aug 2009
History / WHO WILL REPRESENT THE USA AT WESTERPLATTE? [28]

In Poland there is no free market for sure. Corporations are interested to keep socialist state because it is easy to corrupt. They don't want to be just a subject on free market. Thus this is obvious that they would not control free market as you claim. Otherwise they would be interested to introduce liberalism instead supporting socialism.

they don't care which as long as there is safe profit for them and safe means they're in control.
They can always corrupt regardless system !
And state is not socialist but banana republic&socialist mix

Transaction is finished and planes belong to this company. The best way of privatization (possibility of corruption highly reduced) would be auction with some minimum price. Even Ukraine managed to do it right!

really ? In my opinion its wishful thinking !

Of course this is wrong but still a sacrifice worth final effect. Better to let them to do it once than witness never-ending parasitism. At least my long term goal is to change the system in opposition to you. You accept the system, so take it with all its pathologies.

Your long term goal is gather listener to you preaching free market and other theoretical bull.
I know the reality and I can play along or **** them - no mercy, no regrets!
You will scream and talk but in the end you will achive nothing as you are wrong about how the world is moving !
Ironside   
29 Aug 2009
News / The most spectacular errors in Polish politics. [264]

The bolsheviks offered you all the land you wanted and much more and you fell in the trap.They gave you it to stop annoying them knowing that they would get everything soon back while you would have problems with the minorities.

Poland was not in shape to fight it out !
Commandant tried it and couldn't push it anymore ......
As for Ukrainian state it hadn't been question of recognition but of fighting and building that state from scratch....

Why?Stalin offered you alliance and you refused after british consultation.Stalin was terribly pressed and sent Molotov to sign the pact with Ribbentrop only after you rejected his proposal.

Sure, and asked for Red Army to have an unlimited aces to Polish territories, no way...to fall for it would be idiocy!

They would laugh at you.You lost the moral superiority.

What moral superiority ? Its not Poland but Soviet zone !
You don't know that ?
it was Poland under Soviet yoke ?

they can kiss our ass, we own nothing to Czech or Slovakia ?
Ironside   
29 Aug 2009
Life / Public Swimming Pools in Poznan [12]

there many others depend which part of the town you live
Why don't you try find one on the Internet?
Ironside   
29 Aug 2009
News / The most spectacular errors in Polish politics. [264]

1. Polish annexation of Zaolzie 1938, the tiny part of the pre-war Czechoslovakia.

Well, that the tricky one its really difficult to judge, anyway Czechoslovakia had it coming !!!

2. Warsaw Uprising 1944 - Poles should have never trusted Russian commies.

Better fight that be timid victim!And who trusted Soviets ? Roosevelt!

3. Polish support for Kosovo irredenta (separatism).

I agree

1.No recognition of independant ukrainian state in 1922.

you are an ignorant

2.No alliance with Soviets in 1939

idiot and

3.Invasion of Czechoslovakia in 1968

clueless prick
And your treads about girls suck big time#
Ironside   
29 Aug 2009
History / US snubs Poland over WW II ceremony? [75]

I don't like to see Poles looking stupid. Every time their master (the USA) shouts, the government and a lot of the people jump. But the USA doesn't give anything in return.

They should be sent to Madagascar

Got to love that one! The USA snubs Poland by refusing to send anybody important to a very important event and you accuse me of 'a provocation'! Perhaps that bit about constant attempts to insert the national tongue into the anus of the USA has left you feeling personally wounded. What happened? Did you have your visa application for the USA accepted recently?

In the light of your constant bashing of Poles and Poland I find it hard to believe that you actually care!
As for national tongue. Whats that?
You seems to be international and national thingy being the thing you care not one bit
I don't need visa to USA ...
Ironside   
29 Aug 2009
History / WHO WILL REPRESENT THE USA AT WESTERPLATTE? [28]

They will steal something, this is their job but later this company will be less dependent from their meddling. This is step in good direction. As a client you can expect LOT to become more competitive on the market without state protectionism.

They would steal something.?
What the fokke wrong with you - its not all right in the first place!
Secondly Polish taxpayers paid for a new Boeing planes - do you think you'll get it back?
Anyhow taxes in Poland and specialty financial and banking system are the points where the most of rip of taking place.
Your simpleton's advice wont help to improve life of average Polish taxpayers.

There no such thing as "free marked" someone is always controlling it, if not government then bankers or really, really rich (international corporations)!

And said corporations have all the advantages in Poland and are not interested in changes - so your little sale out scheme make no change at all!

I wish it was all that easy !

However how would this state look like if we would follow your logic? Take us back to 1989 when almost all companies are state owned. You coming out with similar statement, I'm sure that all those idealistic communists would be glad to have such ally.

I think you go back to the past far too many times !
As being under Soviet occupation had to do with anything ....like economy.

Its seems that Representative of the USA at the ceremony will be gen James Jones !
I want Governor of California ..........Arnold where are you?
Ironside   
29 Aug 2009
History / WHO WILL REPRESENT THE USA AT WESTERPLATTE? [28]

How about quality and price? Till LOT wont be privatized political motivation always prevail.

What a bull! Who would be do this transaction ?The same politician you bash in every post - think it through, will you ?

..All 600 of them.

Its like 6000 American soldiers !

How

Don't worry they'll send Governor of California !
Ironside   
26 Aug 2009
History / Poland and Lithuania [161]

While you cannot seriously expect that those whom oppose both to your views and current system will remain passive as well.

Should be able to use the system.
What are you doing in practical terms? Talking !
Ironside   
26 Aug 2009
History / US snubs Poland over WW II ceremony? [75]

Looks like the constant attempts to insert the national tongue into the anus of the USA are paying off as well as usual!

What do you care? You being international and all?
So your post seems to be a provocation!
Ironside   
25 Aug 2009
History / Poland and Lithuania [161]

I am not calling all Wilenszczyzna people to be loyal to Lithuanian state. This is exactly for them to decide to whom they should be loyal. But nothing stops me to see to whom they a r eloyal to draw my own conclusions, for example considering is it safe for Lithuania go Quebec.

Go Quebec on Wilenszczyzna
And then you are safe, not other way around !
Can't you see it?

Poland should treat all citizens equally, no matter how other states behave regarding their own citizens.

Sure, the best system monarchy before Renaissances!
Central government is interested only in overall policy and people are ruling themselves and paid a little taxes for protection and enforcement of the locally amended laws.

I understand where you're coming from but to expect Poland to act according to your ideas is simply not possible in the modern world.

Do you find a difference between Polish people from Lithuania and Polish people from Poland, regarding Lithuania?.

Sure, people from Poland do not care and view Lithuania in the light of history books about Commonwealth.
Ironside   
25 Aug 2009
Genealogy / I have got alot of Polish DNA [51]

You

If that is correct and valid data its put a new light on the issue!
That comes as a shock that Hungarian who in years 500 or so come to Europe as nomads from the steppes (some say they are part of Huns) have a less R1A than Poles!

That means that Sarmatians question of origin is not so fantastic anymore - and it make a Crow wise person - almost :)

Genetically poles are closer related to indians, mongols and afghans than they are to western europeans like the british.

For a simple reason Nomi its A genetic map of the expansion - if data you have presented is solid!
Sarmatians have been important part of Roman cavalry contingent:)

Its means that our Ancestors or some of them kicked asses of the all tribes in Europe:)
No wonder they seem to have some problem with us :)
Right Nomi?
How is your ass?
Ironside   
25 Aug 2009
News / What needs to happen in the world so that Poland and Russia form alliance? [297]

Polish and Russian people need to stop taking opium for the masses and get rid of religion then they will become human beings and become equal then they can be alliance for one common good but now they are divided by religion labels as religion is poison

The worst treatment of Poles (genocide, ethic cleansing and totalitarian oppression) by the Russian were during communist times - that all for a common good :)! I don't see religion had much to do with it!

Or maybe you call Communism - a religion ?
I think that its your religion anyway - fool!
Ironside   
25 Aug 2009
History / Poland and Lithuania [161]

Again. If there is a group that openly expresses disloyalty to the state, we see them accordingly. There is no two ways about it. There is nothing wrong in preserving Polish language in the region, you can exercise that to your hearts content. The fact is there are still many villages in Eastern Lithuania where most people are bilingual or trilingual (people still speak Belorussian there) at the age long after the school. Certain person's feel and thought(you can call nationality) is highly predestine by the school one goes to. I can only to imagine what a dose of nationalism one gets in attending either Lithuanian or Polish schools in the region but such a feelings could be easily tune down outside the school walls. The thing is how to make them propoganda free?

What disloyalty ?
Your state is corrupted with legislation which is giving free hand to intelligence and special forces to spy on its own citizen.
You talk about loyalty - I ask you once more Why Poles in Wilenszczyzna should be loyal to you????
Loyalty you talk about is blind loyalty - thing from the past, in style of the totalitarian regimes like Russia or Germany.
You are not empire you have no hope of being independent country in this part of Europe without allies!
You should focus on your friends not looking for enemies, and Poland can easily be your best friend and than subject of "disloyal" citizen would have been very academic question.

You still linger in the past in nationalism of he 1930s - and you are not aware of it (if you are honest).
You should change your attitude for your own good.
As for others minority in Wileszczyzna I know that there also minorities in the rest of Lithuania - but we discussing main issue not a side onces!

As for language is often secondary to nationality or self assessment, as Irish or American speak English, yet there not English in the self identification sense.

You are highly deceiving yourself if you compare Lithuania/Poles problem with Poland/Germans problem.

The only similarity I perceive is that Poland's very good treatments of minorities German and Lithuanian is not mutual in each of the said country's!

It's unfairness of that situation I compare not country's - it should be tit for tat!

Of course it has it's similarities, but Lithuania today doesn't exersice its power on once historically or otherwise right Polish territory.

I could challenge that claim easily but I don't want to !
You have already sleepless nights:)
Just a tip - Constitution!
May 3rd
Ironside   
24 Aug 2009
History / Drang nach Osten. [79]

Neh....that would be Plastic Pole already...she won't give it up now...

Well, tell me what an Prussian fan-boy is doing with his fan?

The plastic pole thing. In all my life I have never heard of such a term till here on PF. It is unknown in Poland. Have Poles on emigration devised a derogatory term for themselves?

I think is a term devised for Americans of Polish origin - plastic as fake Poles ?!
Well, you should ask Plastic Pole about it .
Ironside   
24 Aug 2009
History / Drang nach Osten. [79]

Speak for yourself

A Prussia-fan boy

I knew it!
Pervert Prussian ........fan-boy you say, hmm......well, they should call you PP:)
Ironside   
24 Aug 2009
History / Poland and Lithuania [161]

What is the sense of concentration on this particular case if you don't want to understand how it look like in general?

What to understand? I know what you meant!

Now you change the subject, before you wrote about privileges.

Well, you can call it privileges - generally!
But you have a point - I guess?
I thought you know what I meant by privileges :)

In the end, Poland is not doing any special favour if provide Lithuanian language schools to Polish citizens of Lithuanian nationality. This subject is completely unrelated to situation in Lithuania. Lack of civilized policy in Lithuania, this is problem of Lithuanian citizens. They will not build decent state with such anti-liberal policy based on narrow minded nationalism.

Lets assume you are right, what about return of the property?
Should we say "whatever is problem of Lithuanian if they want discriminate some of their citizen is their business."?

Germans signed such agreement that they will let two Poles to parliament if Poles do the same? No! This is just another stupid initiative from Polish side and I don't see any reason why Germans should do the same. You are right, this is unfair that Polish taxpayers must live in such pathetic state. Poland is not "f***ed" by Germans or Lithuanians, this is Poland which "f***ed" itself and whinnying!

Who is whinnying ? Point is that nobody care one way or the other!
I think that least we can do is inform public about it !

Poland doesn't care about own taxpayers, neither the EU , thus I care less about their silly laws and won't criticize anybody who share my attitude.

you are being silly as if somebody care what you think!
But the fact remains that Poland got itself bad deal and something should be done about it!

assure

What labels?
Tell me what you think about issues I have mentioned and I'll listen.
Otherwise your smooth posts are .....groove, thats all!

What are you talking about?

I agree that the portraying Poland as an enemy somewhere in thirties was far from a good idea, but was Poland then behave any better?

What did you expect?
Try to claim Lida or Smolensk or Hamburg and wait for the reaction - you will see that Poland behaved with self restrain... 90 years ago.

I have said what I have said :0
I'm all ears, now!