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Bratwurst Boy   
8 Nov 2008
News / Candidate of "Hope and Change," Breaks Promise, Leaves Poland Defenseless [47]

He was speaking after Polish President Lech Kaczynski's office said a pledge had been made during a phone conversation between the two men

One of them is lying!
And I don't think it's Obama...

The technology has been proved workable over a decade ago.

Where? When??? Any iranian missile catched lately?

It will help both the [NATO] alliance and Poland and the United States respond to the coming threats

Well..she tells crap...she is with the old losers and liars Bush's team!
Bratwurst Boy   
8 Nov 2008
History / German POWs after WW2 - did the allies commit mass murder? [228]

Why what did the French do to you?

Not to me personally....

Raping, murdering, slave labor, using POWs at living mine seekers, starvation, taking the coal away in the deepest winter....the whole program.
The death toll between the civilians after the war was in the french zone the highest of all western zones...

I think one of the biggest tragedies caused by the Allies was the handing over of Russian , Ukrainian , Belrussians etc that had been freed from German prison camps at the insistance of Stalin...

It's got a name (which shows that the western allies knew exactly what would happen with these poor sods):

Operation Keelhaul

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Keelhaul

The name of the operation comes from the practice of torture, keelhauling. In his book Operation Keelhaul, Julius Epstein states: "That our Armed Forces should have adopted this term as its code name for deporting by brutal force to concentration camp, firing squad, or hangman's noose millions who were already in the lands of freedom, shows how little the high brass thought of their longing to be free."

Around 2 Million people...I doubt anyone of them made it out alive...
Bratwurst Boy   
8 Nov 2008
History / German POWs after WW2 - did the allies commit mass murder? [228]

I think the Wehrmacht behaved better in France than the French in their occupation zone.

The latest books and movies about german occupation in France picture an interesting image (after all that war time propaganda left behind)...
Bratwurst Boy   
8 Nov 2008
History / German POWs after WW2 - did the allies commit mass murder? [228]

But I would say rolling through Europe taking over nation by nation reduces the ability of them to claim any sort of moral high ground.

If it's the Germans that is...you mean!

I surely don't want to apologize for Hitler but to start a war with Germany about the invasion of Poland and then ally themselves to Stalin who just happened to had marched into Poland from the other side...welll...so much for the "moral high ground"...

Bratwurst, even if the majority behaved 'acceptably' whatever that means, then a minority in as large of an army as Germany's still constitutes a huge number.

Yes...but it still means that 99 percent of the german forces "just did their job", that's all. Something alot of people don't care to accept.
Bratwurst Boy   
8 Nov 2008
History / German POWs after WW2 - did the allies commit mass murder? [228]

They had to make a deal with Stalin to win this war....what do yo expect?

But I believe the majority of Allied Forces from all nations behaved acceptably.

Well...so did the majority of the german forces but you wouldn't know it...
I once read about the Wiesenthal center (can't find the reference right now) which stated that the war criminals made less than 1 percent overall of the whole of the german forces.

After TV and Cinema you would think they were all baby killers and rapists....
Bratwurst Boy   
8 Nov 2008
History / Sarmatia Europe - Could it be political reality? [183]

This is different issue.

No it's not! It just proves that most people are quite happy about how things are.
(They could have done without the serbian agresssion though..)
So,what US and EU "did" can't have been that bad...

Serbia did many despicable things and got punished (as was Germany 60 years back).
They should accept, apologize and move on to make it better.
About Kosovo, maybe you can offer a solution which DOESN'T is about ethnic cleansing and expellation of 98 percent of the population?

The US was created in completely different way. Slow process lead them to current status quo.

Of course, but in the end they made it...I don't see why we shouldn't!

Instead of saying "good bye" to EU you should help to make it better...just sitting grumpy in your corner and talking about coming armageddon, doom and gloom and what not - join the living!

I'm quite the nationalist and a german patriot, but that doesn't stop me from seeing the good and the advantages the EU brings my people! And that's what a nationalist should care for in the first place!

Apparently spin doctors in Brussels think that small group of people like myself will be eliminated by lack of opportunity to debate publicly.

Well..you are here debating freely!
And I don't think the internet will ever leave us again...:)
Bratwurst Boy   
8 Nov 2008
History / Sarmatia Europe - Could it be political reality? [183]

However the EU and the US just helped to create such outcome.

And most seem to like it (beside the usual serbian whiner here)
I haven't heard any wish from the new countries to reunite with "greater Serbia" again lately, did you?

I'm aware of this, however if the ball moved to the higher level I must react. The EU bureaucracy is much stronger enemy than Warsaw.

Well..the US manages on an even higher level than the EU currently...and they do quite well...so what...

I hope that your understanding of politics will develop above colors and sounds :)

At least I keep my conspiracy paranoia in check! :)
Bratwurst Boy   
8 Nov 2008
History / Sarmatia Europe - Could it be political reality? [183]

Playing ethnic card is a bit of Machiavellism, don't you think?

Nun ja, it were exactly the yugo-ethnics who couldn't stand each other since centuries and once the strong chain got lost (Tito, communist dictarship) they couldn't wait to pack their bags.

Nothing the EU invented, it was all there for centuries already.

And for your tiring rants against "devilish" EU:
Actually you could blame ALL state governments being something of a shady dictatorship as they steal all the power from the regions...just look at Germany..we have the Länder with the gov in Berlin. I wonder why they all aren't always demonstrating for secession!!!

The same in Poland...aren't they all opressing the regions??? :)

In longer run they they want to create European nation,

I like the idea..(and we already have a nice flag and an anthem)
Bratwurst Boy   
8 Nov 2008
History / Sarmatia Europe - Could it be political reality? [183]

just side in the conflict which serve their interests in longer run.

Following their interests is a logical and natural thing I would think.
Nothing wrong with that!
...but what interests would that be in your opinion?
Bratwurst Boy   
7 Nov 2008
History / Sarmatia Europe - Could it be political reality? [183]

Life will go on. We all die eventually, even the optimists.

Now you are getting morose...wait...I have a bottle ouzo for you somewhere...

*goes searching*
Bratwurst Boy   
7 Nov 2008
History / Should we use original name of Berlin - "Kopanica" [103]

Maybe they were "Germans", but they were migrating from Germany to Poland for a reason ( Same with the jews )

Crap!

Germans were sought after farmer and craftsmen! Often they were invited (or they just took it)!!!
So not as the Jews...

After a while the only thing that divided them was their surnames.

Well, my family lived for centuries in Silesia and they saw no reason to become polish. As they for the most time lived in either Prussia or the German Empire.

About your polish nobles...we all know that nearly everybody could call himself an aristocrat after polish law...it is hardly comparable to Europe!

Well..much of the old Reichstag got destroyed...lot's of other architects where about it later...what about them? And what do you want to say with that?

If a jewish architect plans a huge skyscraper in the midst of Warschau does that make the city jewish??? :)
Bratwurst Boy   
7 Nov 2008
History / Sarmatia Europe - Could it be political reality? [183]

I have a feeling you don't understand the term "direct democracy". None of the countries you named have direct democracy. They are all electoral (aka representative) democracies.

Jaaahaaa...I admitted it already...I misunderstood you...:(

Too many security holes .

That's why it is right now no real alternative...but what about in 50 years?
Bratwurst Boy   
7 Nov 2008
History / Sarmatia Europe - Could it be political reality? [183]

Germany? France? GB? Austria..etc.etc.etc. Most european countries (with few exceptions)
The US, Australia...actually most of the western world and then some...Canada, Poland...

Referenda simply take too much time and cost too much money. IMO they're OK on occasion but not as a regular, day to day form of government.

Well..I see online votings as a quite easy thing...:)

edit: Darn...bad me...you meant "direct" democracy, right? I just saw democracy...sorry!
Then you are right...direct democracy right now seems only to work in the Swiss....

This round is on me!

Another European country infested with immigrants, with its history in the back seat in the drive for wealth?

Immigrants are a problem which needs tackling!

But there are worse things than a "drive for wealth"...most people are
just that way...it's natural!
Bratwurst Boy   
7 Nov 2008
History / Sarmatia Europe - Could it be political reality? [183]

Would a few years of blood and unrest, be worth going through to save future generations from infinite misery?

No! ABSOLUTELY NOT!

Every dream which makes pain, death, destruction and misery seem "necessary" isn't worth it!

PS: And most people would just disagree with you in seeing a future EU-Europe as "infinite misery", sorry!

As for the direct democracy, it's been kinda tried and failed miserably.

Disagree again! It works quite well IMHO...
Bratwurst Boy   
7 Nov 2008
History / Sarmatia Europe - Could it be political reality? [183]

It isn't everybody...it's actually only a few posters here...Lukasz, Crow, Filios...maybe a handful!
These are people who would actually be glad to see the EU destroyed, people becoming unhappy, unrest, war.
Only then they see chances that their perverse ideas will find a following...and they
are right with that.
Bratwurst Boy   
7 Nov 2008
History / Sarmatia Europe - Could it be political reality? [183]

Well said....but I think it will need another generation or two for those "transition"-pains to vanish.

But compared to Europes past the present is a good time already for most (at least in the Euro zone)...IMHO of course only...
Bratwurst Boy   
7 Nov 2008
History / Should we use original name of Berlin - "Kopanica" [103]

He...they look happy! :):):)

As you mentioned my "blood"...during the third Reich at latest my family
would had found out about any jewish or slavic background....

edit: Why did you delete the dance?
Bratwurst Boy   
7 Nov 2008
History / Sarmatia Europe - Could it be political reality? [183]

Well... frankly speaking your government would love to see Russia torn apart

You misunderstand our society Sasha.
Germany is a country which invents, develops, produces and sells.
We NEED to sell to stay rich!
But we can only sell to people who have money. People get only wealthy enough to pay our prices, to buy our products when they live in a half way secure, safe and stable environment.

What would a torn and poor Russia mean for us? Not a reliable market, that's for sure. Millions of not-to-be-consumers of german products! A continous threat and what not.

We so not need nor want that!

Germany (purely from a logical point of view if you don't believe my promises) needs you stable, reliable, prosperous and bourgeois...with money to spend! And the same counts for all EU-members and also the Balkans. We so not need unrest or civil wars! It's bad for business.

Yet many doesn't agree to exchange Kosovo for EU

It's not as if they have to chose between "EU" or "Kosovo".
It's "EU" or not "EU", that's all...

And you still didn't tell me how you would handle the Kosovo if it were for you...

I don't the idea of election everyone over 18 can take part in.

Hmmm...you are right in some ways.

I would prefer a more direct democracy which works through referendum and petition, where only people can take part in which can show through a test that they have enough knowledge to make a judgement.

But we are just not that far gone already (maybe something for the online future? Once everybody is able to go online and personalities can be checked securely)

Till then we must take what we have with warts and all....and compared to the past it's the best we ever had!
Bratwurst Boy   
7 Nov 2008
History / Sarmatia Europe - Could it be political reality? [183]

If you don't take some basic things I am of none help to you.

Well, believe this too...you can fools some people for long but not all forever!
Some facts are just that, facts! And no amount of media brainwashing can them make true or go away for always!

Not every uncomfortable facts and events are the fault of some conspiracy of western govs and media...

I don't want to boil everything down to the total guilt of the West

*phew*

:)

Don't forget "might gives a right"... You had a might and you divided Jugo.

Crap!

If we then in the 90's had this power what could we do now?
Hmm....let's see...what to destroy and divide next....hmmm...

If Serbs once happen to have a might

Well Serbia is invited to join the EU once they fulfill the requirements. Alot of Serbs would like that....

The winners write the history. Forget about the justice, in the world scale it has never existed and never will.

How came you are being so bitter and cynical?