News / Poles Ranks First in Computer Coding [47]


Let me rephrase what happened:

scorpio: Poles Ranks First in Computer Coding
welshguyinpola : I am not arguing about Poland having some of the best coders in the world, but can someone tell me why recently (since WW2) nothing highly advanced has come out of Poland?

z_darius: [see the list I posted, research what these achievements are if you have a trouble understanding]

welshguyinpola: Poland still makes a rather insignificant impact on the world even considering those things you mentioned. (this coming from a guy from Wales, of all places. And who the fvck is welshguyinpola?).

time means: (to z_darius, surprisongly, not to welshguyinpola) and what part have you played in any of them? blow your own trumpet.not some other persons.

My achievements, or lack thereof, proves nothing in the context of this thread (see the first post). Have you asked welshguyinpola the same questions?

Hence a clear sign of your desperation, unless you are under 13 years old. In which case... well, go and get yourself an ice cream.

News / Poles Ranks First in Computer Coding [47]

You asked questions, I provided answers.


No doubt. But the topic is computer science.

Whatever you think I have proven myself to be, you have proven yourself to try and belittle Poles. when that fails you resort to a personal attack on the grounds that your answers have been answered to your dissatisfaction.

If you really want to know answers you do your own research. It's not hard these days. Use a computer.


I didn't, and I regret. If you ask questions expect answers, not a candy and a pat on the back. So not only do you deserve to be called a kid, but a spoilt one at that.


As a matter of fact I do not feel as a person without culture (if you come even close what culture is). Now, what is yours? What are your achievements other than being under English rule?


That's a pretty desperate comment :)

Let's say my part was not bigger or smaller than what welshguyinpola contributed to the wonderful inventions by the nation that has been ruling his for centuries. And whatever I did or didn't has no bearing on the fact that welshguyinpola knows squat about the topic he decides to keep alive.

News / Poles Ranks First in Computer Coding [47]

From [topcoder.com/stat?c=country_avg_rating] the organization responsible for the competitions and the stats.

Computer programmers can. Attention to detail is critical in this field. It's their job to be precise. Did you already forget what is being discussed here?


It did. You simply don't know because you are a young kid interested in games, which btw. are coded by quite a few Polish programmers, who acquired their skills in Poland. You may have heard about siliconknights.com/main.html Silicon Knights Inc and their latest game "Too Human". I happen to know the owners of the company and at least a dozen Polish programmers working for them.

The fact that you don't know this or that, or that you haven't heard about one thing or another only says something about you.

Now, on a more serious note, Poland was penalized by the USSR for its slow pace of communist developments. The punishment was designation of Poland as an agricultural country withing Comecon. Bulgaria was name an IT centered country within the Soviet block. You are certainly familiar with some of Bulgarian programmers' efforts, at least indirectly. Up till about late 1980's about 50% of comuter viruses came from Bulgaris.

I wonder how many of the inventions below have you heard, and how many of them do you even understand.
Henryk Magnuski - inventor of Walkie Talkie, which, eventually, has evolved into cellphone.
Mieczysław Gregory Bekker - one of the key designers of Lunar roving vehicle.
Stefan Kudelski- inventor of Nagra audio recorders
Tadeusz Sendzimir - invented revolutionary methods of processing steel and metals used in every industrialized nation of the world
Henryk Zygalski - designed the "perforated sheets," also known as "Zygalski sheets". Variation of these were used for a couple of decades in computers.

Jacek Karpiński- responsible for the construction of the first transistor-based differential analyzer and for the development of one of the first machine learning algorithms and techniques for character and image recognition. He is also the designer of one of the first minicomputers - the K-202. The computer was ahead of its time and probably the fastest.

Wiesław Romanowski- the first commercially feasible rendering software system called ARTS (Accelerated Ray Tracing System), based on ray tracing technique.

Andrzej Trybulec - developed the Mizar system

Jan Węglarz - discovered the so called two-phase method, but unfortunately he published his discovery in a Polish newspaper, so it was ignored. Western scientists received accolades instead. He refused many offers from the west and opted for his own research team in Poland.

Michał Zalewski- one of the tope "white hat" hackers.

I'm too lazy tonight to post names of Polish mathematicians whose work make a lot of computer advances possible. I'll leave that exercise as your homework. I am certainly not interested in computer games, with their half life of about a year or two.

Life / Are the Polish the most proudest people you have encountered? [51]


So who invented the slogan "Deutchland Uber Alles"?


You must know mostly the Reformed Church Dutch people. If they could they would outlaw smiling.


Because it doesn't. It comes from Latin via French.


So you obviously haven't lived in the US or Russia.

News / Poles Ranks First in Computer Coding [47]


Then Russians should be on top of the world in Bridge - especially those in Siberia.


Of course there are more Russians. After all there are over 4 times more Russians living in the world (even though some 5 percent have cirrhosis from alcohol). And yet, there are only twice as many top coders in Russia as there are in Poland.

Rank Name Member Count Rating
1 Russian Federation 617 2912.79
2 Poland 309 2903.37
3 China 4261 2766.36
4 Ukraine 200 2511.95
5 Canada 100 2482.09
6 Japan 250 2426.17
7 United States 483 2292.95
8 Netherlands 25 2252.11
9 South Korea 146 2248.69
10 Slovakia 45 2230.05

Now schools. Warsaw on top, and Wroclaw in the first 10.

Rank Name Member Count Rating
1 Warsaw University 50 2691.66
2 Tsinghua University 78 2509.77
3 Moscow State University 54 2441.20
4 Saint-Petersburg State University 36 2335.35
5 Saint-Petersburg State University of Information Technology, Mechanics and Optics 33 2217.58
6 University of Tokyo 37 2187.85
7 Kyiv National Taras Shevchenko University 38 2179.95
8 Zhejiang University 158 2167.84
9 University of Wroclaw 26 2120.62
10 Saratov State University 19 2057.13


Poker is not a game of intellect. It's a game of instinct.

News / Poles Ranks First in Computer Coding [47]


actually, there are two Poles in the 1st top 20:

Cezary Balicki and Jacek Pszczola. The list doesn't mention Michal Kwiecien who was Pszczola's partner and won numerous international prizes, or other great Polish bridge playes from yonder years.

Bridge is very popular in Poland. No, not as popular as soccer, but there is a great following. Surprisingly, any card games were forbidden in Polish schools, so as a teeneager I played bridge with friends during classes - from memory. We dealt cards during a short break and then using a system of subtle signs we played the game with cards in our pockets, instead of listening to idiocies of our Russian language teacher. (I was a good player but no, I was not a bridge champion of any kind).

As for computer programming and computer course in Poland, well, I'm not sure if many from North America would be brave enough to study computer science over there. I went through the curricula in some Polish universities. Wow!!!.

They do North American graduate level work in undergrad schools. Very impressive.


India has a huge "mass" of programmers. They are competent, some are great. I worked with a few. One was really a good one, the other ones were OK.

News / US DOLLAR = 2.47 on 2 Oct 2008? [54]

I don't think Europeans (or Canadians) are worried about America. We're worried about how America's fvckups reflects on the rest of the world. After all, most of your country is owned by foreign interests, not by the US citizens who are in debt up to their eyeballs.

Life / Using of a handkerchief by Polish men... [15]


if the "green" technologies are for real then fabric handkerchiefs have brighter future than the more resource and energy intensive throwaway tissues.

Life / Doing laundry in Poland [66]


In the US bathing began to be common practice at the break of the 18/19th centuries. The christians first settled a couple hundred years before, and whole John Winthrop indeed mentions soap on his wish list of goods from Europe, America had a long was to go before it started to be obsessed with killing all germs (which in a long run may not be such a good idea)

Also, there was a heavy advertising campaign in the US in the first decade of the 20th century. The campaign encouraged people to bathe and use soap.

As for the washing machines mentioned here a number of times; in 1991/92 I went to Poland for Christmas, the first time in 5 years. My mom did the laundry and set my whites in the bedroom where I stayed. I thought these weren't mine as they looked too white, almost brand new. The trick was that in Poland the washing machines had a boiling cycle. Used for whites, it actually boiled them so the results were amazing. Certainly better than all the chemical garbage (bleach) that's supposed to help. It certainly helps the bleach manufacturers.

News / US DOLLAR = 2.47 on 2 Oct 2008? [54]


Have you been to Europe?
Try France. Norway. Heck, try UK.


Some stores are open 24/7 but in general I think it's an tad oversized myth.

News / US DOLLAR = 2.47 on 2 Oct 2008? [54]


pretty ambivalent. there are good sides and terrible sides in unions.

One example about workers in GM (true story): a friend's son got an intern job at GM. The first day he was shown how to sabotage machines so that workers could get extended breaks.

Genealogy / Do I look Polish? (Part II -- Much more detail than other topic) [109]

Do I look Polish?

News / US DOLLAR = 2.47 on 2 Oct 2008? [54]


I dunno. If they were so good I'm puzzled as to why American car industry practically lost to Japan, Germany and Korea?


He's as much Jewish as he is Irish.
He was raised as a Catholic.


That article makes sense and I am very much aware of the reasons for outsourcing. My post was kinda tongue in cheek.

Still, I have to wonder, what does "the best workers" mean?
Does it mean Polish immigrants or Mexican illegals?

News / US DOLLAR = 2.47 on 2 Oct 2008? [54]


Yup, they are so good it's becoming scary. In fact American employers became so scared of that "goodness" that they keep sending American jobs to China.

Life / Using of a handkerchief by Polish men... [15]


If you wash it regularly then it may have a future.

News / US DOLLAR = 2.47 on 2 Oct 2008? [54]


true.

Loco's optimism can be only compared to "Poland the Messiah of the Nation's" or the German "One Thousand Years Reich"

News / US DOLLAR = 2.47 on 2 Oct 2008? [54]


First BBoy wasn't even on a drawing board then.

Second, in 44-45 and the years following that American economy flourished. Are you saying we're in for WW3?

News / US DOLLAR = 2.47 on 2 Oct 2008? [54]


actually, it's not even paper anymore. Over 90% of money in the US are just computer bits and bytes.


Inflation is built into the American banking/treasury system. If the current system is maintained than inflation will NOT go away. In fact inflation in the US is fought by creating more inflation. Paradoxical but true.

Life / Poland peasant or noble tradition? [34]


Actually, bigos is a noble tradition in Poland. It was introduced to Poland by a royalty.
Pierogi are Italian ravioli. Doesn't ravioli sound classy, even if it's the same thing as the allegedly lowly pierogi?

As for Jazz... now we're talking "peasant" tradition.

So now, that we established that you mixed things up so badly are you of

Study / United States Education vs. Polish Education [19]


Again, that depends on a lot of factors. You can do it in a year, or you can take 10 years. Various universities set their own maximum number of years in which you must take the doctoral exam. If it's long term studies (ones where you need years to obtain data) they may extend it quite a bit. In other areas (like English lit) an idea strikes, you put a few things together, take a few compulsory courses and try to impress the old men (and women).

Study / United States Education vs. Polish Education [19]


Polish Universities are now among the best in IT around the world icpc.baylor.edu/past/default.htm


Generally you are correct, but it may also depend on what you need to do with the degree. If you want to continue towards PhD then most worthwhile universities around the world will recognize the degree. Ironically, less prominent school's won't, at least not readily.

A few years after obtaining a degree in English lit (in Canada), I wanted to take an extra course (in an unrelated) discipline just to update my skills. The university that granted me a degree in English asked me to take TOEFL test because I had a high school diploma from overseas!

I threatened a lawsuit and media coverage. They apologized.

Study / United States Education vs. Polish Education [19]


ca.youtube.com/watch?v=wCxr0a5Hr1kThis kind of computer graphics?

Study / United States Education vs. Polish Education [19]


Depending on the area of study you will get education that is either comparable or superior to that in the US.

News / CNN Special On Poland [16]

would be good to youtube the thing

Travel / Walks up the Beskids mountains [44]


If the friend is a bear then he'll have no problem hearing from that distance.

Still, a bear doesn't have to hear you though. They have an an extremely keen sense of smell - several times better than that of bloodhound. Some bears have been known to detect prey 3 miles away - upwind. Their ability to detect scent from 40 miles away is not uncommon. All I can say - respect the bear. We stand no chance against them wilderness, sometimes not even if we have a firearm.

Travel / Walks up the Beskids mountains [44]


There is only one species of poisonous snake in Poland, but the venom is not strong enough to kill a healthy adult.

As for bears... I'd be afraid even with a rifle handy.

Btw. The Beskid area is beautiful and the song below is probably the best popetry I ever heard about it.

btw. Polish for beginners is not enough to understand the lyrics. Heck, many native Poles will understand about half of it.

Travel / How can I stay for longer than 90 days in Poland? [26]


That's what America is for, boy. You do your job and as a token of gratitude you may stay in EU for 90 days at a time.

News / What is the future of Catholic church in Poland. [154]


Who says so? Jews?


Those gods were self evident, but apparently to the chose ones only. If you can't see them then you are doomed to eternal suffering.


So no prophets no god? Interesting.

I thought those words' were supposed to by god's words, like those Muhammad imposed on you.


No, actually Greeks did not have a concept of "belief" in gods in the sense Jews, muslims and you seem to have.


That's what Egyptians thought for some 5000 years - more than twice as long as christianity has existed so far.

News / What is the future of Catholic church in Poland. [154]


First, we need to decide which god is being rejected.


Christians rejected Zeus, Perun and others. Does it mean they have no morals?

UK, Ireland / What is in Poland that England doesn't have? [142]


That is certainly true but this:


shows that you meant medicine, not the actual prescriptions ;)