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United States Education vs. Polish Education


HereICome 2 | 2  
6 Oct 2008 /  #1
One of my set backs for moving to Poland is education. Can I get a good education in Poland vs. where I currently live in the US? Any answers welcome and appreciated...
z_darius 14 | 3,968  
6 Oct 2008 /  #2
Can I get a good education in Poland vs. where I currently live in the US?

Depending on the area of study you will get education that is either comparable or superior to that in the US.
Siegfried 1 | 100  
6 Oct 2008 /  #3
Well,I don't know anything about US but here are some of my thoughts about pl vs uk:

primary schools:
better in pl, polish kids coming to uk dont have any problems (except language), more: they are better than the native ones

college:
have no idea ;) probably similar to primary schools

universities (based on my discussions with people who graduated good london univs):
polish univs are based more on learning books and then passing the exams. If you are studying physics, don't expect dealing with hi-tech equipment (this is general rule - univs, except few, dont have money for good equipment). Better situation is with IT: all you need is computer, so we can produce good specialists.

I think that western univs produce real experts from one discipline (or part of it), where in poland you know a lot about many things but you are not real expert in one thing.

when I joined my company here in london, i didn't know much about industry I am working in. but I got few promotions rather quickly, while there were few english graduates which didn't last even a month (plus one "expert" who last 1.5 month).

and I dont have diploma from top polish uni (BSc, University of Gdansk, part-time)

regards
OP HereICome 2 | 2  
6 Oct 2008 /  #4
Thanks for the input guys! Helps a lot!
Siegfried 1 | 100  
6 Oct 2008 /  #5
here you have a link to article about it:
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-489793/Top-class-England--Polish-boy-goes-home-better-education.html

I've seen few articles like this plus I helped my neighbour's son with his primary school homeworks ;)

btw: what kind of education you are interested in?
I think polish technical univs are quite good.
OP HereICome 2 | 2  
6 Oct 2008 /  #6
I'm into photography, web design, and computer graphics... My boyfriend is into cars...

Thank you for the article btw!
z_darius 14 | 3,968  
6 Oct 2008 /  #7
computer graphics...

ca.youtube.com/watch?v=wCxr0a5Hr1kThis kind of computer graphics?
Siegfried 1 | 100  
6 Oct 2008 /  #8
we have quite good photography/actor schools in Lodz (I think). Gdansk - good tech univs with very good IT (but not easy ones - you will cry a lot) and good mechanical(?) department. Warsaw is probably even better.

One more thing - our Magister(5 yrs) is equivalent to Masters degree -or even a bit more - can anyone correct me if I am wrong?

few links to Gdansk:

pg.gda.pl/ Gdansk - main page- use links on left (wydzialy) to get to faculties(?) pages. most of them should have english version

eti.pg.gda.pl Gdansk - IT faculty

filmschool.lodz.pl Lodz - cinematography
z_darius 14 | 3,968  
6 Oct 2008 /  #9
Gdansk - good tech univs with very good IT (but not easy ones - you will cry a lot) and good mechanical(?) department. Warsaw is probably even better.

Polish Universities are now among the best in IT around the world icpc.baylor.edu/past/default.htm

our Magister(5 yrs) is equivalent to Masters degree -or even a bit more - can anyone correct me if I am wrong?

Generally you are correct, but it may also depend on what you need to do with the degree. If you want to continue towards PhD then most worthwhile universities around the world will recognize the degree. Ironically, less prominent school's won't, at least not readily.

A few years after obtaining a degree in English lit (in Canada), I wanted to take an extra course (in an unrelated) discipline just to update my skills. The university that granted me a degree in English asked me to take TOEFL test because I had a high school diploma from overseas!

I threatened a lawsuit and media coverage. They apologized.
Siegfried 1 | 100  
6 Oct 2008 /  #10
darius:
LOL! :D
this was quite funny :D

how long it takes to make PhD (total) ? In pl it's 7 yrs I think

edit:
warsaw 1st
wroclaw 26th
z_darius 14 | 3,968  
6 Oct 2008 /  #11
how long it takes to make PhD (total) ? In pl it's 7 yrs I think

Again, that depends on a lot of factors. You can do it in a year, or you can take 10 years. Various universities set their own maximum number of years in which you must take the doctoral exam. If it's long term studies (ones where you need years to obtain data) they may extend it quite a bit. In other areas (like English lit) an idea strikes, you put a few things together, take a few compulsory courses and try to impress the old men (and women).
Siegfried 1 | 100  
6 Oct 2008 /  #12
well, in Poland it's rather fixed (if you don't fail on the way):

Magister (Masters) - 5yrs
Doktor (PhD) - extra 2 yrs (or 3, I don't remeber, I am just BSc :D )

or
Licencjat (BSc) - 3 yrs
Magister - extra 2 yrs
Doktor - the same as first road

In Poland BSc is considered "not full higher degree" :/
tamboo - | 5  
6 Oct 2008 /  #13
um.... Poland has better education, better material and a better system then USA. USA through-out elementary and highschool, have a very crappy system. My mom complains about it all the time and i think its crap too.. But universities and college differ. that cannot be compared amongst the two countries.
polishgirltx  
6 Oct 2008 /  #14
and a better system then USA

i don't agree....i like better the usa' system...
southern 75 | 7,096  
6 Oct 2008 /  #15
I think Europe is better to study if you are average student.USA has much better universities if you are a top student.For example a top polish student will study in Warsaw or Krakow Polytechnik for example but who knows these schools?If he does the SAT exams,GRE,whatever,the same person will study in an Ivy League School in USA which offers far better opportunities.

But the average Joe will do the same in Poland and USA.
George8600 10 | 636  
2 Jun 2009 /  #16
Siegfried:

Gdansk - good tech univs with very good IT (but not easy ones - you will cry a lot) and good mechanical(?) department. Warsaw is probably even better.

Polish Universities are now among the best in IT around the world.

You mean Jan Madey, Coach
Filip Wolski, Contestant
Marcin Pilipczuk, Contestant
Marek Cygan, Contestant
Krzysztof Diks, Co-Coach the only people who competed are the best at IT? Yes, Warsaw University is known for IT work, but I would rather regard the students than these PhD's professors who competed.

And yes, it takes 7 - 9 years to complete a PhD in Poland for the total amount of time. But why does this come as a surprise to you? It's the same in Italy, Greece, France, Germany, Sweden, England, and in many areas in the US. I'm sure it's the same in many other areas too.
freebird 3 | 532  
2 Jun 2009 /  #17
I think that western univs produce real experts from one discipline (or part of it), where in poland you know a lot about many things but you are not real expert in one thing

you got that right brother, this is exactly the case
krysia 23 | 3,058  
2 Jun 2009 /  #18
In Poland you THINK you know a lot about many things
theblueenigma 3 | 188  
2 Jun 2009 /  #19
One of my set backs for moving to Poland is education. Can I get a good education in Poland vs. where I currently live in the US? Any answers welcome and appreciated...

The educational system in Poland and Europe in general is far superior to that of the United States. Im not just saying that because I am European, but it is a fact

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