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Lukasz   
14 Dec 2007
History / Should Germany claim to be the victims in Poland? [510]

Return Auschwitz to its owners.

you should be careful because last time it is noticable that some people think that Poles were Nazists and only smal part of German society colaborated with us ... :))) I think that in close future we will read in press about Polish Blitzkrieg :-) and French Bombarding London durring WWII (all in all German air bases were in France) :)))))

than you came across this:But that is highly controversial, and many politicians and other groups in Germany are opposed to the idea.as is the majority of germans...

yes but idea of this center is strongly supported by your gov ...
Lukasz   
14 Dec 2007
History / Should Germany claim to be the victims in Poland? [510]

"It's probably not well-known outside Germany that at the end of World War ll, around 12 million Germans had to leave their homes in the former eastern German provinces and elsewhere," said Wilfried Rogasch, the curator of the exhibition.

German way of thinking ... but they've forgoten how they becomed owners of this homes ...

(once again ;) )

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kulturkampf
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanisation

this one is good ... ;)

and I m not going to talk what happened durring WWII ... Germans victims pffffffff
Lukasz   
14 Dec 2007
News / Polish-German Relations in the Present [697]

lol EU godfathers are France Germany UK the strongest countries with the bigest influence ... ;) it wasny about race/nation
Lukasz   
14 Dec 2007
News / Polish-German Relations in the Present [697]

I dont know if we can call it progress ;)

but the fact is that those Poles who became submissive later changed into Germans or Russians ... and maybe that is why nowadays swashbuckler DNA ;) is so noticable in our nation ;))) you have to be rebeliant form your nature to be Pole :-)
Lukasz   
14 Dec 2007
News / Polish-German Relations in the Present [697]

ok so maybe what do we have now

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7138012.stm

Both Poland and Germany have promised a new chapter in their relations which worsened significantly under Poland's previous conservative government.

Warsaw wants Germany to scrap its plans to build a pipeline supplying Russian gas under the Baltic Sea which bypasses Poland.

It also opposes a plan to build a museum in Berlin commemorating the millions of Germans who were expelled from their homes at the end of the war.

I would like to see Brits reaction on project of museum of UK genocide made by RAF ... without showing bombardments of London ...

Sure. Progress. I'm glad you mentioned it. This "standing up" has brought us nothing but progress! Starting from partitions, through all insurrections & uprisings, WWI, WWII and over 40 years of communist rule. Nothing but pure progress.

from the other hand there were succesful actions too all in all without resistnce we wouldnt speak Polish we wouldnt have our culture ...
Lukasz   
14 Dec 2007
News / Polish-German Relations in the Present [697]

I strongly disagree. It is because of views like yours Poland always get its a$$ kicked. I say we should for once SIT DOWN and start being realistic about our situation in Europe. Poland is not a super-power and its foreign policy should be more realistic. Your view reminds me of Polish government in 1939. They would “stand tall” to everybody around and they were first to leave the country.

do you think the fact that we want to solve this issue means that we look for trouble ?

we proposse "zero option" we close history and move forward ... if Germans want to count money we can count (I would like to see balance) ... maybe small miniority of Germans want to do it but it is really annoying ... so official agreement would be the best solution

Not sure if this was mentioned in the past 23 pages, but apparantly Poland has been donating a lot of blood to Germans lately. i saw this on the news but no article ...sorry.

we cooperate on many levels and cooperation is really good ... but on some levels we just cant cooperate (look on previous pages)
Lukasz   
14 Dec 2007
News / Polish-German Relations in the Present [697]

ohhh yes american view ... Poles like indians or black americans ... no comment

What I want to add ...

becuse some people think that Germans apeared in Poland like vinkings in Europe, or English in north America...

I live in Poznan and there is little statue of poor German imigrants who found Poland safe place to live...

Poznan

later

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kulturkampf

After the Falk Laws (May Laws) had been passed, the Prussian authorities started to close down most of schools teaching the Polish language. Instead, the German language schools were promoted. In November 1872 minister Falk ordered all classes of religion to be held in German by the spring of the following year. The wave of protests on the side of Polish Catholics and the clergy was pacified the following year, when the Catholic Seminaries of Posen and Gniezno were closed down, and the state took up the supervision of education, previously carried out mostly in church-sponsored schools. The estate of the Church was confiscated, monastic orders dissolved, and the paragraphs of the Prussian constitution assuring the freedom of the Catholics were removed. In Greater Poland the Kulturkampf took on a much more nationalistic character than in other parts of Germany

hopefuly we have won ...

BTW We have dont what Irish should have done in Northen Irealnd ... and maybe Serbs in Kosovo ...

It is history ... I think we can go forward, but we have to close some issues.

I've forgoten to add quote about Poznan.

All in all, the policies of Germanisation of the Poznań area mostly failed. Although most of the administrative measures aimed against the Poles remained in force until 1918, between 1912 and 1914 only four Polish-owned estates were expropriated, while at the same time Polish social organizations successfully competed with German trade organizations and even started to buy land from the Germans. The long-lasting effect of the Polish-German conflict in the area was development of a sense of Greater Polish identity, distinct from the identity common in other parts of Poland and primarily associated with nationalist ideas rather than socialism, prevailing in other parts of the country in 20th century.

Lukasz   
14 Dec 2007
News / Polish-German Relations in the Present [697]

I think some people dont understand issue,

as to WWII ... in our courts we have several processes between our citizens and German one, in case of properies which belonged to German before WWII ... of courese they lost but it is annoying ... and it is bad for our citizens, how would you feel if Your grandfader would have been expeled by force form eastern Poland to nowadays Western Poland ... and now ansestors of some nazi F**** goes to court and you have to deal with it, you win but it isnt nice situation. What is the fact, there are thousends of such cases and it is bad for our citizens. Our gov wants to close this case, and Germans say that it isnt important. In my opinion it is important.

As the result some Polish organizations started to count how much Germans should pay for what they did ... The fact is that they have payed for French they have payed for Jews but they havent payed anything for Poles ... if Germans try after 60 years get some properties, why the hell we shouldnt try to get sth ... (way of thinking)

We have to solve this issue.

Yes most of nowadays Germans dont live in the past but this part which live in the past is really annoying... We want to close this issue ...

as to Polish/Czech reactions according to this center showing Germans as victims (this project is supported by German gov in cooperation with Germans citizens and their ansestors who comes from western part of Poland) we are simply against this project. What is interesting I have seen Brtis reactions when Germans wanted to show air atacks on their towns as genocide ... we react in the same way.
Lukasz   
13 Dec 2007
Polonia / Any Polish people in Libya? [8]

jesus is there POles on moon ?????????????

yes we are everywhere ... and one day we are going to catch you
Lukasz   
13 Dec 2007
News / Polish-German Relations in the Present [697]

the_falkster

I support EU, because I think next war between European states would kill Europe at all ... so we have to live together.

et over seems to be a common outlook. Get over or learn from? Carol

I think that idea of EU shows that we try to learn ... there is another discussion: what is proper directon of EU ... and who is going to lead ;)))))
Lukasz   
13 Dec 2007
News / Polish-German Relations in the Present [697]

you should check your information on this one mate...

Ive checked they want to build it ...

z-g-v.de/flashintro/eng/index_flash_eng.html

in english

western part of Poland is originaly Polish , not German.

and the fact is that Germans setled there and later started to expel Poles by force and didnt treat us equal ... it is historical fact

What can be interesting Germans living there very strongly supported Hitler they wanted to "race of lords" or sth like that ... SS was very popular in this region. They lost they were sended to their home land Germany. Yes I think we can live peacefuly, border between Poland and German is ok.

What is interesting a lot of Polish people buy properies in Germany (close to Polsih border) because it is chiper but they work in Poland ... after Schenegen it will be much easier so I think more of Polish people will buy some properies there ...

yes we can live peacefuly now :))))

okay... so you show an old map of poland here but at the same moment you state

because it is our first recognized border

Polish tribes come form here (Wroclaw, Szczecin, Poznan, Krakow, Gdansk)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polans_(western)

German HUNS have stolen this grounds but have been PUNISHED

... it is history get over it ...
Lukasz   
13 Dec 2007
News / Polish-German Relations in the Present [697]

ok so maybe we should discusse about problems we have with Germans.

1 Nord Stream (gas pipe)

2 They want to bulid kind of center in Berlin showing them as victims of WWII

3 case of western terytories of Poland

1) Nord Stream is gas pipe which avoid Poland is much more expenisve than the other projects.

2) The most interesting fact is that Hitler was supported especialy by Germans living in Wrocla/Breslau or Szczecin, and this gorund are traditionaly slavic ground where Poles were oprest by centuries ... yest this gorunds in first part of XX century were definately German, but it was the result of anty Polish policy in the past. In 1945 they were expeled (it was decision of Russian UK and USA not our) and Poles expeled form eastern part of Poland started new life there, and this ground are core of Polish origin.

about Germanisation

sss

so idea of showing Germans as victims is pathetic ... borders are result of their policy in the past. Just think what would happen if Hitler have won the war ...

3) Maybe it is connected to second point, but what is important:
We know that German gov dont support organisation which want our grounds for Germans, but the fact is that those organisations really exist and we have so many processes in courts with them in this case, that we decided to make pressure on Germans to solve this porblem by agreement. We want them to sign official document that their gov will take this all processes on their accout ... unfortumately they dont want to sign it. In this case we proposse them "zero option" we dont want antyhing form them and they dont wan anything form us. What is impotrant Germans destroyed Warszawa (95% was totaly destroyed) killed 6 mln of our citizens (3 mln jews and 3 mln of other religion) and havent payed anything for that. We havent particpated in Marshal plan, yes they have been paying big money for EU contries just after the war, but unfortumately we havent been in EU then ...

Shortly we want to close this case, but last time Germans started to think they are victims ... what is pathetic. And Germans live in the past not we ...

What is funny some German organisations dreamed that when we will be in EU they will simply buy western grounds of Poland ;) and what do we have now ... they cant buy it (we negociated it before accesion to EU) but last time what is really good sign Poles started to buy eastern Germany ... what means that we are ready to change our law and permit to buy "Polish land" ;) for EU citizens...
Lukasz   
12 Dec 2007
Travel / Going to Łomża, Poland for New Year, but how to get there? [28]

I've left it a bit late for booking, but I want to get to £omża sometime between Christmas day and New Year's Eve. I'm sure there are coaches from the United Kingdom to £omża, but by plane? Warsaw, then bus?

£omża ... take bus or taxi in Warszawa

when you will be in Warszawa take taxi to "dworzec PKS" (bus station)
Lukasz   
12 Dec 2007
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

ok maybe I will back to topic

There is official information, agricultural minister of Russia informed that there will be the end of embargo ...

(unofficialy as the result there will be the end of Polish veto on EU-Russia negotiations)
Lukasz   
11 Dec 2007
Love / Polish-Islam Relationship Union [450]

as to PL - Muslim union

XVIII - XIX century mosique in Poland (nobody wanted to burn it or kill musilms who wanted to pray there ... )

there is still smal musilm miniority (about 5000 tatars) as to other ntionality muslims it is noticable that last time there is more new musilm imigrants and a lot of Polish people are really afraid ( have you heard about France) ...
Lukasz   
7 Dec 2007
UK, Ireland / Immigrants trigger Irish rethink [71]

is that all of us Brits in Poland , or just Zeze.....?

it is just about ZEE

...

all other people are really welcomed here :)

cheers

BTW I understand people like "noimmigration" he is brit he likes UK how it was several years ago ... but ZEZE she is here and complains ... so maybe it would be great idea to go home ...
Lukasz   
7 Dec 2007
UK, Ireland / Immigrants trigger Irish rethink [71]

Zeze

leave Poland as soon as it is possible, we dont need you here you stink ... is it ok ?

I've just written this statement because I know you live in Poland so just go home ... and send our citizens back here we need them here ... all in all we've started to open the border for chnese people to work here ... so bring us back Poles and take ... for example more Pakistan people ... :*

cheeres

... and ones again GO HOME to UK
Lukasz   
7 Dec 2007
News / Important Dates in the Polish Calendar [25]

Cud nad Wisłą

15- VIII - 1920

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Warsaw_(1920)

The Constitution of May 3, 1791

The Constitution of May 3, 1791 is generally recognized as Europe's first and the world's second modern codified national constitution. The May 3rd Constitution was instituted as a "Government Act" (Polish: Ustawa rządowa) adopted on that date by the Sejm (parliament) of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.

konst
Lukasz   
2 Dec 2007
News / interview with Donald Tusk (Financial Times) [41]

the truth is that UK and Irealand in some way USA inspire a lot of Poles (Sarko in France wants to do the same ... I hope he will be succesful) and the fact is that in UK you have less public officers than we have here, even your population is much biger ... so we have to CUT CUT CUT ;) maybe it will hurt but it is the best solution ... we will see If Tusk will be strong enought ...
Lukasz   
2 Dec 2007
News / interview with Donald Tusk (Financial Times) [41]

Where is action ?

I hope they will do what they promise ... there is another problem with socialist opposition you voted on ...

it looks very much like Thatcherism...

I have noticed that for a lot of British people Thatcher looks like evil ... but in my opinion there is one important fact ... in the past Brits have worked in Germany , now they dont, what is more I've heard that a lot of Germans choose UK form the same reasons as Poles ...
Lukasz   
2 Dec 2007
News / interview with Donald Tusk (Financial Times) [41]

We have to recognize that an economy freed of unneeded regulations is more effective. You have to take a machete and cut, cut, cut. Determination is needed, because there is a regulation fetish. It comes from a naive belief that for every social and economic problem there is a law or a regulation. Often people who have influence over legislation in Poland do not understand that every new law and regulation is a quiet attack on freedom and on the ability of the country to develop.

I strongly believe in the Euro-Atlantic alliance. I think all efforts on the part of the European Union to distance itself from the United States are dangerous. We have very carefully thought over the sense of extending the Polish mission in Iraq, because we have stayed longer than we promised. I hope our decision is completely understood and that is not seen as a distancing from the United States or an effort to correct Polish –American relations. There is never an easy time for such a decision, but we are hoping that it in no way affects our relations and on the readiness of Poland to support the mission in Afghanistan.

My dream is that Poland should be a safe country and that we should turn our geographical position into an asset and not a curse. Poland can develop positive relations among countries in central and eastern Europe and we have a good opportunity to do this, for example in regard to Ukraine. We must support the enlargement of the European Union and the enlargement of the region where western standards begin to operate.

ft.onet.pl/0,4208,transcript_of_interview_with_donald_tusk,arty kul_ft.html