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tornado2007   
9 May 2008
History / Poles executed in Warsaw '1939-44' [112]

this topic dosen't need polluting, it already is by all the cry cry cry pessimistics :) So no i'm fine where i am, i can spread myself accross many topics
tornado2007   
9 May 2008
History / Poles executed in Warsaw '1939-44' [112]

Go and fix yourself up.

tut tut tut i don't take drugs so i don't need a fix thanks :)

Torn, some people are discussing here things important for them. Don't like It ? So get lost and take your "points" with you. The same with dating section.

whether or not you box or pigeon whole these topics it dosent' mean the people within them are not what i've described. Just because i'm in a section it dosen't mean i can't have a view on the people and the topic, my god, you can't stand any point of view different to yours. You love the safety of the invisible barrier of the 'TOPICS' and there little sections don't you.

T
tornado2007   
9 May 2008
History / Poles executed in Warsaw '1939-44' [112]

Torn, get a life... really...

something else i find about this website, some people can't even asnwer points properly so they decide to put in a sad excuse for a remark instead. If you haven't got a real response doggy dog then don't bother posting that sort of pittiful effort :)

Don't worry about that ;)

i'm not worrying, at least if that ever happened then i would see more positive and happy Polish people talking :)
tornado2007   
9 May 2008
History / Poles executed in Warsaw '1939-44' [112]

WTF are you talking about ? This is Polish Politics & History section.

regardless of what it is 'Gregorz' this section wouldn't be full if there were not so many people wanting to talk about this sort of history, it dosent matter where we are its the fact so many want to talk about this negative negative negative history all the time. My god some of you people are going to die of depression!!!

Nothing funny about it really.

of course there is nothing funny about the actual tragic history, i wasn't saying that. It was the fact that all the history talked about on this forum is just sad sad sad cry cry cry stuff. History is more than that.

If you study the history, as in "Polish Politics & History" Poland was about death and destruction.

really so there is not good polish history what so ever?? pull the other one you pessimistic pole :)

I suggest you go to another area on the forum as Poland is not going to lie and say Nazi's brought us flower as Soviets came with wine.

you make me laugh, the Soviet Union dosen't even exist anymore and as for the Nazi German Government uuuuummmm thats gone too. so like those movements or former states, WHY DON'T YOU MOVE ON AND EVOLVE INSTEAD OF DEBATING THE SAME THINGS OVER AND OVER AND NEVER GETTING ANYWHERE. It's ok to lick each others backsides and cry into the same tissues but for goodness sake respect those who died and move on!!!!!!!!!!!!

T :)
tornado2007   
9 May 2008
History / Poles executed in Warsaw '1939-44' [112]

Can't Poles talk about their history on PF ? Why when we talk about Warsaw somebody is talking about Jews or living in the past and that Poles should move forward.

It is Polish history section and it is our history.

lol, what i find so funny is that you just want to talk about death and destruction all the time and how bad it was for Poland and make it out that to be Polish is an awful thing when it comes to History. I don't see many topics relating to 'good/positive Polish history' why???? because you lot are a bunch of pessimist who want to run over the same things again and again and again, why not make the forums brighter with a bit of positive stuff instead of drowning in your own self pitty.
tornado2007   
9 May 2008
History / Poles executed in Warsaw '1939-44' [112]

Asking a question does not mean we are moaning. Yes it sucks to find loved one like this but since we search and want to know it is more help than you will ever know.

you seem to think that your the only one with a problem along with your country, my family lost at least three people in bomber command over the campaign. All three bodies were never recovered and we don't have closure. As a family we accept that in times of war people die or are killed, we will never be able to give those three members a proper berial but it does not mean we don't think of them or pay respects to them. What we don't do is chase shadows and scream down the house. Nobody in our family is bitter to the Germans who probably shot them down or had something to do with the dissaperance/death of our family members. Its about remembering the people personaly than lambasting the Germans about who did what and when.

I think many that "moan, *****, rant or rave" are looking for the truth in history. We have that right. Our families served, loved and died for Poland. Being silenced gave others the full access to tell our history. Now that we are free we can set the record straight. I bet when this is done we can sit back and have a drink and know our job is done.

you know as well as i do the job will never be done, due to the fact so many people are pushing for so many unrealistic targets, one of a number of things i've learned about at university (SMART Targets) this stands for Specific, Measureable, Achievable, Realistic and Timely) I don't believe your targets are any of the above. Your continuation will only drown you and others who continue on and on and on dragging out history, after all its HISTORY!!!!

We are in the Polish Politics and History section. History - a global shadow-chasing campaign? It sounds rather nifty, actually. But seriously, if someone chases shadows it's because they desperately need closure. Native Americans campaign for their ancestors' bones to be taken from museums and buried with respect. Is this so different?

really you think its that global???? what all the countries around the world are that bothered?? hopefully even in my life time as generations move on this can be left behind us and once every year we can take a step back and remember our fallen, have a drink to them, respect them and thank them for their service or simply recognise their passing. I hope one day this will be a real life possibility instead of this constant dragging of heels to moving on.

T
tornado2007   
9 May 2008
History / Poles executed in Warsaw '1939-44' [112]

You sure don't know when to "shut Up". I can tell you never had a family member vanish from the face of the earth. I guess what your saying is looking for information on our loved ones is moaning, guess what, we didn't get a chance to give them a proper burial and a grave site to pay respect and put flowers. Maybe just maybe we can stop looking for them. May they Rest in peace.

well it seems that most of my posts have passed you over mate, i congratulated the OP for posting his message, i think you'll find that i was commenting on something that Magdalena said :)

as for having somebody vanish of the face of the earth, death yes, a lot of it actually but still thats not my point. Your chasing shadows that are over 60 years old, can't you see its affecting the rest of your life, this continual moaning about who did what and when they did it.
tornado2007   
9 May 2008
History / Poles executed in Warsaw '1939-44' [112]

you see this is what i mean, arguing about the past!!!!! What is the point, whats done is done. I hope this type of discussion dosen't dog the Polish family dinner table, pppffff.

This is exactly why people need to move on, people one or two generations down the line are arguing the toss about 'HISTORY' when really there are more contempary issues that could be discussed or even acted upon.

There is a day of rememberance November the 1st i think Magda said so why not leave all this bull till then and remember and respect the fallen, instead of looking for somebody to blame. Some of the people will be turning in their graves, it seems many have forgotten 'those who died' and are more interested in 'who was responsible for killing them'
tornado2007   
9 May 2008
UK, Ireland / Polish teenager murdered after arriving in UK [117]

stop looking for reasons to pick on so called 'xenehobes'. So what if some people believed she was killed by another polish person or not. What happened to Zuzanna Zommer was awful and you trying to use it to satisty your agenda against so called exenophobes on this website is trully disgusting, a simple RIP would have been enough.

Stop trying to use tragic situations to fuel your personal agenda

thnx

T
tornado2007   
9 May 2008
History / Poles executed in Warsaw '1939-44' [112]

I totally understand what you are saying, however dosen't this just fuel my point about looking elsewhere apart from the past. I can't believe 60 years on and in other cases a lot more people are still looking to blame each other. HOw about people just square this all away and try and get on with each other. Do you think when i meet a German i think of the war and Germans' bombing Britain, no of course not. I'm sure your the same, in fact i'm sure thats the case for most people.

I would never suggest that people are exaggerating what happened, of course these events took place and of course they were horrible. There just comes a time when people need to learn to move on, remember yes, to continually debate and moan and look to blame, no. What is the point in all that??? People understand and recognise what the Germans did in the war and in fact any other nation who was responsible for war crimes.
tornado2007   
9 May 2008
History / Poles executed in Warsaw '1939-44' [112]

I am really sorry I upset you. I just wanted to pinch you a little bit to get a genuine response. My bad.

thanks, no problem you didn't upset me i just didn't want people to think i meant anything else than what i meant to come accross.
tornado2007   
9 May 2008
History / Poles executed in Warsaw '1939-44' [112]

I DO understand what you are trying to say.

i do go on soe of the other topics and tell people to stop moaning about the past and look to the future :). I think these groups of people forget that 'EVERYBODY' suffered in the war, let alone jews, Poles, Russians, Brits or whatever. There were a lot of people who died or were executed during the war.

I mentioned remembrance day because i think it would be appropriate for Poland to have a day to remember all those who were lost in the war 'armed forces' or 'civilian'.
tornado2007   
9 May 2008
History / Poles executed in Warsaw '1939-44' [112]

Why shouldn't Poles moan all they want about German occupation?

It was over 60 years ago, Poland has moved on from those times, shouldn't the Polish people be looking forward to a brighter future rather than looking back on a bleak past. WHat do you want the current generation of Poles to grow up doing?? Feeling bitter about the past or looking forward to their and Poland's future???

As i said before its right to remember, although we didn't suffer like you in the war we have a 'rememberance day' for our armed forces who were lost in battle throughout history. We don't go on and on about it but pay our respects on that day. For me there is a big difference between moaning and paying respects. There is of course a place for recognition of an event and rememberance.

WHY ARE PEOPLE STUCK IN THE PAST???? I'm so glad i'm not around older Poles who are bitter about this sort of thing, its like been around elder statesman of the former USSR. They hark on about being under Soviet rule when in the current point in time their country is an independent state!!!!! I thought it would be better to concentrate on the prospects rather than the pittfalls of the past.

LOOK FORWARD, put a smile on the face of Poles instead of reminding them of the glum past. I'm so pleased that the new generation of Poles aren't really to bothered about moaning about the past, while at the same time they are aware of what happened and probably pay their respects they don't continually moan about it in the bitter manner i see on here.

T
tornado2007   
9 May 2008
History / Poles executed in Warsaw '1939-44' [112]

It seems you do not quite believe in the atrocities committed by Germans in occupied Poland? Come on, a few folks got shot here or there, whatever's the problem :-/

When did i say that i didn't believe!!!!!?????. Of course i do believe that atrocities like this happened. I also believe the Holocaust happened, i think you'll find my point was people contiually moaning and being bitter about history. WHat has happened in the past has happened, although we'd like to change it we can't. I believe people should stop complaining and crying into their tissues because of frustration.

Instead people should remember, by all means have a post that recognises the Holocaust or any other mass murder where people can pay their respects. That is a whole lot different from a topic which is full of moaning, growning complaining Poles who are just bitter about the war etc etc.

I do not appreciate the fact that you deemed it ok to manipulate my words into something that they were not written to represent. I should really ask for an apology but i doubt you have the stomach for it.

With reference to this topic i think you'll also find i was congratulating the OP for his contribution, he has vital information which could help people to find out what happened to their relatives and put their minds at rest about what happened and the circumstances surrounding their deaths. When i first saw the topic i must admit i thought, not another damn bitter, moany, typical PF topic based on history, however this is actually one of the ones that has a point to it.

I hope you understand where i'm coming from now Magdalena, as you clearly didn't seem to understand in the first place. Obviously your interpretation was a little of this morning :)

thnx

T
tornado2007   
8 May 2008
Love / Pornographic Polish magazines [65]

yeah and that must be pleasing, that the only body he has is yours :) i mean for you, you know he looks at the other girls in magazines etc etc but at the end of the day he comes to you and enjoys your body.

OR SO I'VE BEEN TOLD.

ow come on donkey you've seen a few dirty magazines, don't hide it :):)
tornado2007   
8 May 2008
Love / Pornographic Polish magazines [65]

yeah my bloke says that he buys fhm to read the "stories" they write in it, certainly not for the boobs on every page ;).

i think you tell a sensible story, which a lot of Girls/Women would do well to listen too. Just because your bloke looks at a few dirty pictures it dosen't mean that he likes you any less or thinks any worse of you after looking at those super model ladies with fake boobs and asses!!!.

I mean men and woman look at other men and woman when their in a relationship. Surely everybody in a relationship has had a joke about 'that guy looking hot' or that 'girl looking fit' to tease their partner. Its just a bit of fun.

At the end of the day if your relationship is good enough it will survive a few dirty **** mags. As i said before usually guys look at them because they have alternative desires that they can't share with their gillfriend/wives either because they are too ashamed or because they simply want to look at another body :) simple really
tornado2007   
8 May 2008
Law / Poland -One of the fastest growing economies [28]

my god i agree with a german about something, somebody call the police!!! What you say is true, of course nobody wants Poland to be in a poor state affairs but there is no need to overstate what has gone on and how 'brilliant poland is' when its the EU funding thats doing the work :)
tornado2007   
8 May 2008
Love / Pornographic Polish magazines [65]

hhhhmmmm yeah good point they just spoil the image of the naked ladies, although there are some guys who are obsessed with cars so you never know!!!
tornado2007   
8 May 2008
Law / Poland -One of the fastest growing economies [28]

and the reason for this, Poland joined the EU :) If Poland was not part of the EU it would be in exactly the same position as it was in 2004. TO say 'Poland' has done this is rubbish, its EU driven and funded :) Let's not beat about the bushes here people
tornado2007   
8 May 2008
Law / Poland -One of the fastest growing economies [28]

One of the fastest growing economies that is subsidized by the richer EU member states :) It is not really a true reflection of Poland itself just that since joining the EU you've had enough money stuffed in your back pockets to make the seat of the pants tear :):)
tornado2007   
8 May 2008
History / Poles executed in Warsaw '1939-44' [112]

If you suspect someone suffered this fate, give me a name and dob and I'll check the list. In some cases I can give the circumstances and photos (portraits) of those killed.

while i usually hate it when somebody posts about 'historic events' in Poland such as these so that people can come on and moan and talk about how hard done by the Polish people and country are. In this case i applaud you for being able to offer people information about their relatives, friends etc etc in these times.

Even though i have nobody in this situation its a good job your doing with this topic and i'm sure you'll be able to settle people's queries, good job :)
tornado2007   
8 May 2008
Love / Pornographic Polish magazines [65]

gusy will be guys, they look at **** now and again, a few woman wrapped around or on cars is nothing compared to some of the material that can be found. Consider yourself lucky :)

but there is actually a photo of a naked woman having sex with a plant!

i can't believe you find this upsetting, i find it actually quite quite funny do the the fact of its totaly uniqueness :):):)

i'm very upset because my husband didn't seem like the pornography seeking type.

i can't believe you didn't think a man wouldn't look at pornographic images just because he was a 'good church going guy' look at some of the 'fathers of the church' they do worse and actually sexually assault children, the church is not that clean you know!!!

i guess my question is, what is up with these magazines?

no matter what country your in, you will find pornographic magazines, its natural for a guy to want to look at the female form performing certain acts. Of course what that act is can vary as not all guys are into the same thing, but i won't go into detail about that.

Firslty, there is nothing wrong with these magazines and there is nothing wrong with your husband buying them. A guy once in a while needs a little 'change up' and maybe this is his version. Would you rather him sleep with another woman or view a few dirty magazines??? I know which i'd choose if i were a married female.

There is nothing wrong with your husband, If there is then the same can be said for billions of other blokes around the world.

I hope i haven't offended you in anyway because i didn't mean to, i'm just openeing your eyes to the fact that 'pornography' is normal and a lot of guys look at it. There is nothing wrong with this. Sex is sex, un explainable and sometimes guys can't even tell their wives about their deepest desires and fantasies so seek them elsewhere either through the Internet or magazines such as the ones your husband is looking at.

thnx

T
tornado2007   
6 May 2008
UK, Ireland / Are the Poles in England hated? [450]

i get that all the time ha ha.

damn, i thought my proposal was so random and out of the blue that you couldn't possibly have recieved such a proposal of marriage like that before :)

you are wasting your time on this sad case, he has inhaled too much fumes of all the British **** he had to take care of and now he is living in his own little world. people like him will always accuse others who are better than them of all the worst things. lots of people like that in Poland, its quite sad actually.

i agree but at least he can't say he hasn't been told or warned
tornado2007   
6 May 2008
UK, Ireland / Are the Poles in England hated? [450]

marry me baby, i love the way you put things, lol :):):)

What a disgrace!!!

ok your talking absolute rubbish!!!!! Your trying to stir up trouble by telling all the Polish on this site that the UK hates them, well its bull. There are plenty of people who like the Polish and are more than happy to have them here, for whatever reason. Granted some clean toilets, some serve food and others work in hotels, THESE JOBS NEED DOING, dosen't matter who does them. There are Brits who clean **** for a living and remove dead bodies etc etc.

you are probably working as a prostitute in the UK.

thats no way to speak to any woman/girl, you should be ashamed of yourself, take a few lessons in etiquette you sad excuse for a man.

Or a bar servant..

hhhhmmmm how many different people do these jobs?? just the Polish??? i don't think so. Don't shout your mouth of before you think next time!!
tornado2007   
5 May 2008
UK, Ireland / Are the Poles in England hated? [450]

COME ! AND POLISH OUR TOILETS!

AWFUL!! they are nasty

A bit of English humour never hurt anybody, if you had the brain to understand it you would realise that its banta rather than hurtful filth
tornado2007   
4 May 2008
UK, Ireland / WHY DO POLISH PEOPLE THAT COME TO ENGLAND CAN'T SPEAK ENGLISH? [118]

i think its because English is spoken in so many countries around the world that it makes the english reluctant to learn another language, i mean why, if everybody else speaks your tongue???

If the Polish language was a popular as English and spoken in a lot of nations around the world i'm sure the English would speak it if our language was used in only ou country. Its nothing to do with talent its to do with circumstance.
tornado2007   
4 May 2008
UK, Ireland / WHY DO POLISH PEOPLE THAT COME TO ENGLAND CAN'T SPEAK ENGLISH? [118]

the reason the Polish don't speak English, well the same reason as the English don't speak Polish, they are both English and Polish respectively.

How can you expect a nation to be fully prept on another language and especially one so different from their own. It takes time to learn a language and with something like english you cannot learn it until your start to speak, read and write it regularly, this cannot happen in Poland. So therfore they come to England or as here on a forum to practise. You cannot surely expect everybody to speak brilliant english when they first arrive in the UK.

Granted i hate it when somebody is in a job where they need to be able to communicate but can't thats not the fault of the individual its the fault of the employee for not having the foresight to see this problem. The Polish don't have a problem in learning english, many of my polish frirneds now speak a very good standard of English and they have been here for about a year.

I think it depends on the individual and the exposure they have had to the language. Its just my thoughts so don't shoot me down

T
tornado2007   
3 May 2008
News / EU a beacon of light for the World to follow [85]

what are you, scared of change??? nobody is going to take your country over, lol, its stupid to think that. I don't know what propaganda you've been fed or even what slavic country your from but i think its just paranoid panic